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Post Reply last man standing sitcom canceled because it has conservative views
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/%E2%80%98last-man-standing%E2%80%99-cancellation-sparks-call-for-abc-boycott/ar-BBBb5nt?OCID=ansmsnnews11
The Change.org petition titled "Save Tim Allen's Show 'Last Man Standing'" says that the recently axed comedy "stands out in the sea of network television sitcoms. It is a show that appeals to a broad swath of Americans who find very few shows that extol the virtues with which they can identify; namely conservative values."

The petition adds, "'Last Man Standing' is one of the only shows on broadcast television, and the only sitcom, that is not constantly shoving liberal ideals down the throats of the viewers. And sadly, that is likely the real reason the show has been cancelled."

ABC announced the cancellation of "Last Man Standing" after six seasons last week
The intent of this petition/boycott is to attempt to get ABC to renew the show. With that in mind, I will no longer be watching any ABC shows. I have cancelled the DVR settings for the other ABC shows that I regularly watch. If you want to help try to save Last Man Standing, I encourage you to do the same," the petition continues.

"Even if you are not willing to boycott the network, but still want to save the show, please sign this petition and share it. If you do plan to boycott ABC, please say so when you sign. Let them hear our voices."
So far, the online petition has gathered more than 44,000 signatures, out of its goal of 50,000



of course it was canceled, cant have any views other than the lefts, amirite
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Meanwhile...


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When you suggest that LMS is being cancelled because of politics, you are saying ABC cares about politics more than money.

And that's just stupid.
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cdarklock wrote:

When you suggest that LMS is being cancelled because of politics, you are saying ABC cares about politics more than money.

And that's just stupid.


considering the way things are right now, and have been the past half year, yes
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Or maybe it wasn't.
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Are you sure it was not a Friday night Sitcom that garner a niche fanbase that dwindled as seasons went on? The lineup for Friday sitcoms is neither popular or strong.

This seems to be conjecture without any evidence. It could be that a show that extolled conservative virtues is not popular enough because of it, and has gotten canceled once the fanbase lost interest. In any case, the outrage has been minimal because it just was not popular, and I find it hard that a show can be canceled for said reasons without sufficient outrage.



It does take place on certain days that do not face strong competition possibly. Friday night in my experience has been the time for throwaway comedies on ABC, versus stronger contenders on Wednesdays and Tuesdays.


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Are you sure it was not a Friday night Sitcom that garner a niche fanbase that dwindled as seasons went on? The lineup for Friday sitcoms is neither popular or strong.



It does take place on certain days that do not face strong competition possibly. Friday night in my experience has been the time for throwaway comedies on ABC, versus stronger contenders on Wednesdays and Tuesdays.




Haha, it was just a joke because it was weird seeing really racial-based shows pop up on ABC around the same time period. I wasn't making a legitimate point.




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It probably just got cancelled cause poor ratings happens to quite a few long running show for example my personal favorite Ghost Whisper.
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I have read the article Redokami, and you definitely taking the article out of context between what is claimed, and what is proven. There is no proof whatsoever, or any convincing event, that the show was canceled for political reasons. The article is about a petition trying to muster support by garnering outrage over something, in this case conservative outrage over liberal media strikes again, which may or may not have existed as the reason. The articles is not saying it is explicitly canceled due to its conservative views, but voicing the claim of a fan named Deputy Matt trying to save his show from being canceled, who stated that he believes that this is the reason for its cancellation. The thing is, there is no proof to Deputy Matt's claims.

I urge you to change said title.
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((haven't watched it))

Is it even funny though?

Plus a bunch of shows get cancelled for one reason or another ((BATES MOTEL, TERRA NOVA, PUSHING DAISIES and one of my all time faves In the Flesh!)

Just saw the trailer (like right now) so like it has a laughing track which can be a bit annoying lol

Speaking of sitcoms, I've got to watch Malcom in the Middle again someday!







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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I have read the article Redokami, and you definitely taking the article out of context between what is claimed, and what is proven. There is no proof whatsoever, or any convincing event, that the show was canceled for political reasons. The article is about a petition trying to muster support by garnering outrage over something, in this case conservative outrage over liberal media strikes again, which may or may not have existed as the reason. The articles is not saying it is explicitly canceled due to its conservative views, but voicing the claim of a fan named Deputy Matt trying to save his show from being canceled, who stated that he believes that this is the reason for its cancellation. The thing is, there is no proof to Deputy Matt's claims.

I urge you to change said title.


The cancellation followed controversial remarks made by Allen about free speech and Nazism. In March, Allen -- who is a Republican -- said on "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" that "you gotta be real careful around here" because "you'll get beat up if you don't believe what everybody believes."

"It's like '30s Germany," he added

you think there is NO link?
>is a republican
>said something "controversial"
>show gets canceled not long after
also, I cant change the title, however I agree I should have clarified
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I have read the article Redokami, and you definitely taking the article out of context between what is claimed, and what is proven. There is no proof whatsoever, or any convincing event, that the show was canceled for political reasons. The article is about a petition trying to muster support by garnering outrage over something, in this case conservative outrage over liberal media strikes again, which may or may not have existed as the reason. The articles is not saying it is explicitly canceled due to its conservative views, but voicing the claim of a fan named Deputy Matt trying to save his show from being canceled, who stated that he believes that this is the reason for its cancellation. The thing is, there is no proof to Deputy Matt's claims.

I urge you to change said title.


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/more-tv-news/last-man-standing-cancellation-was-all-business-abc-says/

Seems to me that the show was cancelled due to costs, it isn't even produced/owned by ABC. It's produced by 20th Century Fox, meaning ABC had to license the show and cover all the other costs. Simple business, if something is too expensive you cut it.

PV nailed it.
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redokami wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I have read the article Redokami, and you definitely taking the article out of context between what is claimed, and what is proven. There is no proof whatsoever, or any convincing event, that the show was canceled for political reasons. The article is about a petition trying to muster support by garnering outrage over something, in this case conservative outrage over liberal media strikes again, which may or may not have existed as the reason. The articles is not saying it is explicitly canceled due to its conservative views, but voicing the claim of a fan named Deputy Matt trying to save his show from being canceled, who stated that he believes that this is the reason for its cancellation. The thing is, there is no proof to Deputy Matt's claims.

I urge you to change said title.


The cancellation followed controversial remarks made by Allen about free speech and Nazism. In March, Allen -- who is a Republican -- said on "Jimmy Kimmel Live!" that "you gotta be real careful around here" because "you'll get beat up if you don't believe what everybody believes."

"It's like '30s Germany," he added

you think there is NO link?
>is a republican
>said something "controversial"
>show gets canceled not long after
also, I cant change the title,


I have not seen the outrage over this comment, nor does it appear his fanbase would be the type to raise hell about it. I myself do not see how the comment in any way should be controversial. It makes no mention of groups, labels, etc, but a vagueness celebrities use to avoid mob vindication, which MSN seems to be exaggerating in order to write a "legitimate" article by claiming it is controversial, rather than a Change.Org petition claiming it as said reason for being so. Petitions on Change.Org are hardly worth writing about. There is no money being sent, few protection against anonymity. These internet petitions hardly amount to anything on that site.


I find the rest of the arguments to be weak circumstantial evidence, if that is the word. It relies that because they are part of a group, they must be targeted because of being in said group. It may be true, but to assume so without any major indicators is perfunctory. This is essentially drinking the persecution kool-aid that people on both sides have done, trying to turn the banal workings of society l into the political, and honestly, it sucks donkey balls.

I hope I do not appear mad at you, and I apologize if I do. Deputy Matt may be right, but the evidence presented is hardly conclusive for conviction.
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I wish they would pull the Bachelors shows are real ((yawn))
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redokami wrote:

you think there is NO link?


Remember "Two and a Half Men?"

Charlie Sheen was being a cock and a half all over Twitter and late night TV, but his show didn't get cancelled. They just fired him. Because even when you're the centrepiece of the cast, they can do that.
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