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Post Reply Why do we love anti-heroes and villains so much more than heroes?
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DragonFan1 wrote:

Well, I'm not so sure about that. There's at least one new show I know this anime season where tragedy involving such a hero is likely to occur. But that's just me thinking off the top of my head.


I'm talking about something a little more specific. EG: " According to Aristotle a tragic hero is thought to be a man whose misfortune comes to him, "not through vice or depravity but by some error of judgment." In Sophocles' Oedipus Rex, for example, the title character kills a man without knowing that the man in question is his father, then marries his mother out of ignorance."
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i till prefer antiheroes
Like Bugs Bunny, cause he like to make trouble even.
the others dont, hey is for entertaiment reason.
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Because some villains are cool looking


Looks does not say much about their character. You can look cool, but still be lame. Most villains are just for show and are really weaklings and cowards. I used to like villains so much, but I realized what they truly are and they are losers.



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MasterBismuth33 wrote:


MonoDreams wrote:

Because some villains are cool looking


Looks does not say much about their character. You can look cool, but still be lame. Most villains are just for show and are really weaklings and cowards. I used to like villains so much, but I realized what they truly are and they are losers.



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Because personal preference/opinions are a thing
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anti-heros are much better usually because they aren't held back by peoples subjective morality and such have their own point of views.

Villains are good for the same reason but they are more bad however sometimes it takes a criminal to make the changes a society needs for example Psycho Pass none of the changes or revelations would have ever happened unless a criminal had taken a stand against the society he hated.


Villains and anti-heroes can do so much more then a hero can for good or worse.
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karatecowboy wrote:

I think that's the notion pushed by Hollywood. However, I know that Hollywood is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. IMO, people tend to love them here in the West because they get so glorified by Hollywood. I think the distaste for so-called "boring" personalities is largely an acquired distaste. Furthermore, it's entirely possible to have an interesting, quirky personality while still being bound by your morals.

On the other hand, I think there is some truth the the claim that anti-heroes appeal to our juvenility. If they can achieve the greater good while eschewing social norms and rules, that vindicates our inner adolescent and childish rebellion against society. "SEE! I can be an uncooperative, rebellious delinquent and still be a good person!". The anti-hero lets us tell ourselves that and assuage our burning consciences.


You're partially correct on the heroes bit. Hollywood tends to borrow pretty heavily from the Everyman concept of making their heroes as close to their intended audience as possible while still being just generic enough to avoid putting off as much of that audience as possible. They aren't alone in doing that, though, just watch any number of forgettable anime titles for similar characterizations. It's doubtful there's some sinister motive behind that trend, it's just a really common and tired cliche.

I have a fond memory of Tenchi Muyo not because it's a particularly great or special anime, but because it's the first harem that I watched. I wasn't particularly put off by the blandness of the character because I hadn't experienced much in that genre at that time. The same goes for any number of generic Everyman thrust into a situation out of his control. Any story that focuses on the journey over the development of the character tends to fall into this to some degree or another.

And you are correct on anti-heroes tendency to play into juvenile wish-fulfillment fantasies. 90s comics having some notorious examples.


Beyond just that, anti-heroes are generally just more relatable, because they have *flaws*. Mary Sue/ Gary Stu "perfect" heroes are boring because they don't feel real and relatable; they feel like badly written characters rather than real people with real flaws and real, understandable motivations.

Of course, they don't have to be ANTI heroes to be relatable and interesting, the Homeric tragic hero style accomplishes a lot of the same things when it comes to making a character likeable (or at least compelling) by simply giving the hero human flaws.
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