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now this is irony (hunter crushed by Elephant his friend shot)
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That's not irony, it's a risk understood and accepted by anyone that goes on such a hunt. They don't call it "dangerous game hunting" without reason
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I hope they use the ivory to make gun grips.
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I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.
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octorockandroll wrote:

I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.


Yeah hunters often get a bad name population control is important and maintaining an area doesn't come cheap...
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I'm not saying meat is wrong. It's a part of life, but killing an animal just for some bones, that grow out of its face, is sad. http://www.livescience.com/39481-time-to-declare-animal-sentience.html
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SandyNewt wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.


Yeah hunters often get a bad name population control is important and maintaining an area doesn't come cheap...

the WWF claims African Elephant is a "vulnerable" species, so population control for elephant really isn't needed. especially considering the illegal ivory trade.
as for me, i can't say killing wild animals for sports or amusement is respectable, even if it can be useful for population control
(which is not the case here)
https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/african-elephant
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AppleFart wrote:

I hope they use the ivory to make gun grips.


Ivory is a pretty piss poor material for gun grips. Gunsmiths only use it cause it looks all fancy and shit. Dem rich and useless gun owners always want that kind of worthless and impressive looking stuff. Polymer and Metal that's the way to go.
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namealreadytaken wrote:


SandyNewt wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.


Yeah hunters often get a bad name population control is important and maintaining an area doesn't come cheap...

the WWF claims African Elephant is a "vulnerable" species, so population control for elephant really isn't needed. especially considering the illegal ivory trade.
as for me, i can't say killing wild animals for sports or amusement is respectable, even if it can be useful for population control
(which is not the case here)
https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/african-elephant


I would rather them not be killed either but if it was legal the price that people would have paid for the chance to kill an elephant would have been high and hopefully would have went into paying people to protect these animals the link you sent me alludes to hunting for sport if those places didn't exist they probably wouldn't have either by now and if you let a population grow too quickly you will end up with a ruined habitat especially since nothing really eats elephants and things that do are also in the decline and tend to only consume the young when they have to.

"game guards often shoot "problem" elephants."
"In Quirimbas National Park, Mozambique, WWF worked with the local government and community to establish a park management system that would protect wildlife and livelihoods. WWF also develops and supports community-based wildlife management plans that contribute to elephant conservation while providing benefits to local people."
"WWF monitors interactions between humans and elephants and works with local communities to develop sustainable practices of mitigating conflict with elephants."

To me those parts allude to the killing of them.
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Um. Independent of what you think of hunting, somebody died here. The hunting group clearly could have been a lot more careful, but connecting this to karma is cruel.


octorockandroll wrote:

I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.


Poachers are people, too. You would wish death on them?
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auroraloose wrote:

Um. Independent of what you think of hunting, somebody died here. The hunting group clearly could have been a lot more careful, but connecting this to karma is cruel.


octorockandroll wrote:

I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.


Poachers are people, too. You would wish death on them?


Yes, I would definitely be less sad if death came for someone who unlawfully kills endangered animals and people rather than someone operating well within the confines of the law. No question about it.
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octorockandroll wrote:


auroraloose wrote:

Um. Independent of what you think of hunting, somebody died here. The hunting group clearly could have been a lot more careful, but connecting this to karma is cruel.


octorockandroll wrote:

I wish this happened to poachers instead of actual, respectable, legal hunters.


Poachers are people, too. You would wish death on them?


Yes, I would definitely be less sad if death came for someone who unlawfully kills endangered animals and people rather than someone operating well within the confines of the law. No question about it.


What if Albert Einstein were a poacher? Or your father?

I don't think I could reasonably compare how sad I'd be in any of these cases. If a poacher died suddenly in this fashion, he/she wouldn't have the chance to change. Death is a sad thing, even if it is deserved - if we can even define "deserving" to die. (I personally think we can, but that's another conversation.)
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I think the internet makes us forget that people we don't like, and people we disagree with, are just as human as we are. So this thread really bothers me.
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