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Hey guys/ Gals,

Ive recently tried to start drawing as i have been motivated by artists in pixiv or just anime in general and think it would be amazing to make my own artwork like they do. Well heres the problem..... i can barely draw a stick figure. My friend who is an artist himself said i need to learn how to pen and paper first before i go digital. I cant help by say hes wrong, With pen and paper i make TONS of mistakes and erase COUNTLESS times so much that i have fadded lines everywhere leaving me to get lost in creating or fixing whatever it is im doing.
I feel like digital drawing is a good way to start at least for me. as its paperless, when you erase it doesnt have fadded marks, sure it might be more difficult to handle at first but im not sure, i think a person like me might benefit from it. though the only problem is its too expensive. 300 bucks for a decent tablet. So i guess what im asking for here guys is, what do i need to do? stick to pen and paper? If so how can i learn good techniques to use? Im 25 years old i have never drawn as a kid (well stuck to it anyway) so im basically just starting out at this age. Or should i go digital? Thanks for reading!
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Ninja_Pro92 wrote:

Hey guys/ Gals,

Ive recently tried to start drawing as i have been motivated by artists in pixiv or just anime in general and think it would be amazing to make my own artwork like they do. Well heres the problem..... i can barely draw a stick figure. My friend who is an artist himself said i need to learn how to pen and paper first before i go digital. I cant help by say hes wrong, With pen and paper i make TONS of mistakes and erase COUNTLESS times so much that i have fadded lines everywhere leaving me to get lost in creating or fixing whatever it is im doing.
I feel like digital drawing is a good way to start at least for me. as its paperless, when you erase it doesnt have fadded marks, sure it might be more difficult to handle at first but im not sure, i think a person like me might benefit from it. though the only problem is its too expensive. 300 bucks for a decent tablet. So i guess what im asking for here guys is, what do i need to do? stick to pen and paper? If so how can i learn good techniques to use? Im 25 years old i have never drawn as a kid (well stuck to it anyway) so im basically just starting out at this age. Or should i go digital? Thanks for reading!


(moved this over to advice & info, seemed like a better place for what you're after)

Honestly, I'm terrible at drawing - I used to draw a little when I was in school, but even back then, for the most part I was duplicating something that already existed, rather than creating something new. Copy a frame of a cartoon character, or a win pose from a fighting game, that kind of thing.

That said, I mostly work in vector and 3D art now, re-making props from anime and such. I think digital is a good approach for you for the same reason it is for me - the tools. Undo, redo, copy from one file to another and merge them when things look right, mirror images, and so on.

But from everything I've read from real artists, they say the best thing you can possibly do is draw - in any medium, on whatever subject interests you. If you like cartoons, draw them, or draw plants, animals, and people in cartoon styles. Copy something that already exists, or take something that exists and modify it to your own ideas. If you're worried about the cost of the tablet, grabbing a pen (no erase lines) and a big pad of paper is a good start. If things look wrong, keep that page and start on the next. And the next, and the next. Eventually you'll have piles of notebooks showing your progress as you learned and improved. Drawing is a skill you have to practice, just like anything.
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Posted 5/22/17

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Ninja_Pro92 wrote:

Hey guys/ Gals,

Ive recently tried to start drawing as i have been motivated by artists in pixiv or just anime in general and think it would be amazing to make my own artwork like they do. Well heres the problem..... i can barely draw a stick figure. My friend who is an artist himself said i need to learn how to pen and paper first before i go digital. I cant help by say hes wrong, With pen and paper i make TONS of mistakes and erase COUNTLESS times so much that i have fadded lines everywhere leaving me to get lost in creating or fixing whatever it is im doing.
I feel like digital drawing is a good way to start at least for me. as its paperless, when you erase it doesnt have fadded marks, sure it might be more difficult to handle at first but im not sure, i think a person like me might benefit from it. though the only problem is its too expensive. 300 bucks for a decent tablet. So i guess what im asking for here guys is, what do i need to do? stick to pen and paper? If so how can i learn good techniques to use? Im 25 years old i have never drawn as a kid (well stuck to it anyway) so im basically just starting out at this age. Or should i go digital? Thanks for reading!


(moved this over to advice & info, seemed like a better place for what you're after)

Honestly, I'm terrible at drawing - I used to draw a little when I was in school, but even back then, for the most part I was duplicating something that already existed, rather than creating something new. Copy a frame of a cartoon character, or a win pose from a fighting game, that kind of thing.

That said, I mostly work in vector and 3D art now, re-making props from anime and such. I think digital is a good approach for you for the same reason it is for me - the tools. Undo, redo, copy from one file to another and merge them when things look right, mirror images, and so on.

But from everything I've read from real artists, they say the best thing you can possibly do is draw - in any medium, on whatever subject interests you. If you like cartoons, draw them, or draw plants, animals, and people in cartoon styles. Copy something that already exists, or take something that exists and modify it to your own ideas. If you're worried about the cost of the tablet, grabbing a pen (no erase lines) and a big pad of paper is a good start. If things look wrong, keep that page and start on the next. And the next, and the next. Eventually you'll have piles of notebooks showing your progress as you learned and improved. Drawing is a skill you have to practice, just like anything.


Thank you so much for the reply Makoto! really appreciate it, really cool since im getting your perspective who is in that field! Thats what i was thinking about doing was getting a tablet for the tools and the programs, i heard from people and on the internet that it still feels like the actual thing and is easy to use apparently. Im still browsing for a tablet which also leads to another problem, which is good and worth the money, ive seen some for 60 bucks but you know what they say you get what you pay for. But that pen and paper idea is also a great one! though i only have an idea of what you mean, should i get a sketch book and draw with pen until i mess up severely then try it again on the next page? though i can see it easily bugging me cause i mess up a ton. (the hair is so hard)
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I just started studying animation and in my opinion you should really follow your friend's advice, you need to get good with pen and paper before doing anything else, you have to start with the most basic stuff like drawing straight lines, learning about perspective, structure, proportions and how to draw simple objects that you see everyday. Any type of cartoon is based on realism, so it's important to know all the basics regarding how to draw stuff. My suggestion is to experiment a bit with everything, try to do some urban sketching, or building non organic objects with their respective structure, try to picture in your head how a certain object is built and then draw it from the ground up. Once you master all of this, you can start making your own creative style.

This is the learning style that I've been studying as an animator and it has helped me so much, before starting I never knew anything about drawing, and I've truly learned quite a bit by just going step by step starting with the most basic things, even if it means just drawing straight lines
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All you need is Loomies. (Great books by Andrew Loomis. I would link a site where you could find all of them in .pdf format, but I'm pretty sure that's against the site's rules. Just look up "Fun with a Pencil" and you should find it easily)

I do agree with the post above this one with learning the fundamentals before trying to develop your own "style". I'm assuming you'd like to draw in an anime art style, which is fine. This video does a good job (in my personal opinion) explaining why that isn't the greatest idea when you're starting out. There's a comment I really like from the comment section that's, "You have to learn the rules before you break them".

That's my advice, enjoy the world of drawing.
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just watched the video in the last post and although I'm not in any school I've made the mistake in the video, I've been trying to copy and draw anime with little experience in actual drawing. I've scribbled down simple shapes up to cubes that haven't been too bad and that's it. either way someone who hasn't drawn anything as a proper hobby as a kid has a lot of work to do. bit off topic I want to try making comics in the "manga" style (not colouring them could save time) with my first two or three series being run for free (showing skills while developing the style) I don't have any friends though. would it be good to find an artist to write with or better to go through all the work myself?
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