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If you were taken hostage, by lets say, isis and were forced to confess your religion otherwise you would die-like how they have done it before
Would you say your true religion,and not deny your god in that moment even though you will die
Or would you say you are muslim to save your life?

I honestly dont know what I woulddo..i have thought both

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I'm a atheist but I thinkpeople sound in their beliefs would confess their religion especially from the "Whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." from Mathew 10:33

Though alot of people have done things opposite of what you think they would do when faced with death or failure.
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Posted 5/24/17 , edited 5/25/17
I would do as I was trained

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Posted 5/24/17 , edited 5/29/17
What is the point? They will kill you anyway for not being Muslim. In any case, there is a Christian Bale movie based on a book about the subject Silence by Shūsaku Endō. Pretty great read. The most compelling scenario is "Would you renounce if others were being tortured on the condition you won't?"

I think the answer is that if they threaten to off someone unless you say a few mere words, do things to idols, etc, you should do it. Likewise, you should not do anything of great cruelty, such as beating a child. Quite frankly, I would rather die.

I am not sure about your scenario. I always found martyrdom to be thankless and hardly invigorating, except for the monk that set himself on fire during the events precipitating the Vietnam war.

It is your life in this scenario, and I think it seems like it is your choice.

I am not sure if it is a specific line, but you presume God is not a dick. Let us run with that, and ask if God would get mad if you did happen to renounce your faith to save your life, and who is the real dick here.

I believe a "loving" god will understand, but who knows?
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Posted 5/24/17 , edited 5/24/17
Hmmm...I don't know what I would do.
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redokami wrote:

Would you say your true religion,and not deny your god in that moment even though you will die
Or would you say you are muslim to save your life?


They don't just take your word for it, you know. If you say "I am a Muslim!" they will ask you something about the Muslim faith and expect you to answer immediately. If you can't, you're still dead. Like they might ask "Sunni or Shia?" and when you say "Shia" because you're not stupid and you know it's the Shiite Muslims killing people around your area, they'll ask "who is the true caliph?" and you'd damn well better know Shiites don't recognise the caliph because they follow the imams.

But if you know that much about Islam, you either are a Muslim, or you're religious enough never to disavow your true faith.

So yeah, I'd tell them I'm Jewish.



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Ashliet wrote:

I'm a atheist but I thinkpeople sound in their beliefs would confess their religion especially from the "Whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." from Mathew 10:33

Though alot of people have done things opposite of what you think they would do when faced with death or failure.


That's true, but there's also Peter who denied knowing Jesus 3 times.According to the Bible,after his resurrection,jesus told him to "take care of his sheep"meaning he had been forgiven.
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well considering I'm not religious I'm probably screwed for sure since from my understanding people from other religions can pay taxes to their Islamic overlords but if someone doesn't worship a god they don't even have that option if found out though im pretty sure groups like isis ignore those sections and are more in favor of the ones which involving killing anyone who doesn't follow their version of the Quran
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Actually there have been documented cases of Isis letting foreigners go who where able to read natively from the quaran or memorized certain parts of it.
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gsm642 wrote:

Actually there have been documented cases of Isis letting foreigners go who where able to read natively from the quaran or memorized certain parts of it.


How many cases are there of those compared to them being killed?

OT: I used to be religious but turned Atheist, if I were in one of those situations back when I was religious I'd state what my religion is and hope the torture didn't last long.
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I've thought about that. It's a tough one. I don't know if a religion other than Christianity puts that much emphasis on professing your faith in the face of death.
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They're probably going to kill you either way so why bother?
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I'd be too busy crying to actually say anything tbh lol
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I'd never make it to the hostage part without being shot or being blown up after shoving a grenade down their throat.
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I'd tell ISIS to go fuck a goat.
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