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Post Reply Your own meaning of " being late " ?
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I'm pretty flexible depending on the situation.
For a job that required me to open up shop in the morning and get everything ready before 11, I was always around 5 minutes early. But the manager didn't open the door until 10:30 anyway so that was mostly just to make sure I found parking.

For a different job where there isn't a lot of prep time or business in the morning, I usually end up ~2-3 minutes. This one is a lot harder to get to on time since I tend to hit traffic. Unless I leave way early, for some reason I always end up at the office around 9:03. If I'm early, the volume of cars on the road slows me down. If I'm a little late, the roads clear up and I can go faster.

If it's an event with friends, I'm either a little early, or tragically late. Especially if they need me to travel long distances...
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I'm quite punctual, but really loathe arriving needlessly early. If my shift starts at 11 I'll arrive at 11, but if I need to be there at 10:45 tell me to be there at 10:45. don't tell me be there a 11 but if you're not fifteen minutes early your late. My old job would have staff meetings and we'd arrive and sit around chatting for 20 - 45 minutes waiting for mangers and such to get it started. But if I'm (we're) six minutes late we get docked half an hour of pay. I hate that because it's a display of their power over the peons.
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is it just me or most teenagers started out with fast food ?


the point you brought up is very true!!

this is the reason why i hate going to the dentist/doctor.. it's ok for them to be late but if you are late it's something else .. not to mention they charged me $95 for a 5 minute chat (along with 10-15 minutes of wait time)

so in total, i wasted 30 minutes driving there, waiting 10-15 minutes+ 5 min of chatting with your doctor = $95

people are only conscious about the cost of healthcare when they have to pay for things out of pockets!!

when was the last time you asked about how much that exam/test, etc.. is ? or why is it so high ?
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10 minutes early is 5 minutes late.
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Late means past the time given. Courtesy means getting there early like 15 minutes. If something is important as a Job or professional activity, show courtesy in being there.

For most social functions show courtesy except for general parties and cookouts. In those cases show up at the required time and not before.

Also, if one is a teacher in classrooms don't start class early. Its disrespectful to those who do show up on time. This is the general principle for things like activities and projects as well.
Whenever you plan something an event, or a presentation, or review and you invite or have employees, always start on time.
Always be there early.
Never start late.
Expect people to be there.
Do the tasks which allow the most amount of people to finish early, so that as many as possible are done with the work the soonest.
Always apologize if you screw up.
When speaking before groups, get to the point as soon as possible.


There are loads of other rules I keep about timeliness and other person activities. You have to set rules for yourself to be consistent and reliable to everyone.
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I'll try to be there early for all appointments but often ended up right on time or 5-10 minutes early 99% of the time.

"if you are not at least 15 minutes early, you are late" -- the policy of one of my future employers.

do you also go by this policy for all appointments/work ?



Unless you are getting paid for those 15 mins then that is utter BS. Employers would never pay you for 15 mins of work you didn't do so why should employees do 15 mins of work unpaid?

I once worked in a factory where my supervisor reprimanded me for 2 mins because I was late by 20 secs. That same day he disappeared for 4 hrs in meetings, leaving me with no work for half a day.

I'm always early for doctors appointments by 5-10 mins nowadays yet my appointment always runs at least 30 mins late. Waste of 40 mins of my time to tell my doctor that I have a chest infection and need antibiotics. 40 mins of my time for him to log my info into the system which takes all of 5 mins. The great thing is too that if you are late then they cancel your appointment.

In a work setting punctuality often gets conflated with job performance when in reality it's a measure of obedience. It's like Japanese office workers who sit at their desks until 8pm even when they finish at 5 pm just so they look "Dedicated" by not leaving before the boss. The whole time they're either sleeping or playing mobile games. The thing they don't get is their boss is only doing it to set an example, he's probably sleeping and/or playing mobile games too. The whole thing is one massive circlejerk.

On the other hand I see how people get annoyed when friends are constantly late for social appointments. If your friends say to meet at 6pm for dinner and you turn up at 6.30 then it means your just a dick who doesn't respect other peoples' time.
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Unless you are getting paid for those 15 mins then that is utter BS. Employers would never pay you for 15 mins of work you didn't do so why should employees do 15 mins of work unpaid?


I once worked in a factory where my supervisor reprimanded me for 2 mins because I was late by 20 secs. That same day he disappeared for 4 hrs in meetings, leaving me with no work for half a day.

I'm always early for doctors appointments by 5-10 mins nowadays yet my appointment always runs at least 30 mins late. Waste of 40 mins of my time to tell my doctor that I have a chest infection and need antibiotics. 40 mins of my time for him to log my info into the system which takes all of 5 mins. The great thing is too that if you are late then they cancel your appointment.

In a work setting punctuality often gets conflated with job performance when in reality it's a measure of obedience. It's like Japanese office workers who sit at their desks until 8pm even when they finish at 5 pm just so they look "Dedicated" by not leaving before the boss. The whole time they're either sleeping or playing mobile games. The thing they don't get is their boss is only doing it to set an example, he's probably sleeping and/or playing mobile games too. The whole thing is one massive circlejerk.

On the other hand I see how people get annoyed when friends are constantly late for social appointments.
If your friends say to meet at 6pm for dinner and you turn up at 6.30 then it means your just a dick who doesn't respect other peoples' time.


They will not pay you for that 15 minutes but i think it is worth it in the end

late to social appointments-- i was told that it's a common thing with Brazillians (true or not i don't know).

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