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Post Reply Approximately 25% of Japanese Anime Studios "Going Bankrupt"; Running Lossess
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Posted 5/29/17
what no i need anime in my life
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Hate to be repeat but anime shows arent even completed like in the 2000's ! If you give consumers complete animes I think people would buy more

I was dissed a couple of months ago when I said streaming is actually hurting anime / kinda been proved

And people most anime are controlled by the Production CMTS who also control the $$$

Yes some studios control the anime but that is the exception. I dont where people care getting the idea the Studios control the money It's trickle down . They are paid forbthe animation work not profits from TV ads DVD / MERCH sales



In the past a lot of what ended up known outside of Japan was "completed" and self-contained anime but it seems to me that it has ALWAYS been the case that most anime is an advertisement for manga/light novels, or toys, and therefore it has always been in their best interest to NOT complete the anime. Get people hooked on the story and then they have to read the manga/lns to continue = manga/ln sales. Keep an anime going on for years = more toy sales.

It's just that now those of us outside of Japan are seeing MORE of the "incomplete" type of anime... and being frustrated by it because it's difficult or impossible to get the manga/ln outside of Japan, and when it is available translated, the translation is YEARS behind, and sometimes dropped in the middle.

I think the remedy is not more "completed" anime but a shift in how animation companies are paid. Keep track of an increase in manga/ln sales after an anime and give the animation company a piece of that for x years. Obviously this would lead to more incomplete anime BUT if this is accompanied by an increase in simulpublishing I'd be cool with that. Give me a season to see if I like something and get a picture in my head of the characters and how they move, and I'm fine with reading the rest! And I'm way more likely to actually buy when it's ~$2 per simulpub chapter and ~$10 per tankōbon and the series entertains me for years, vs $1000 for DVDs of a one year long anime. (Buying the DVDs of a years long series isn't even a consideration because of how ridiculous it would cost.) However my house is only so big and there isn't much market for used Japanese-language manga/lns the US, so it has to be digital or translated.
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I have always said, and I will keep repeating it.

That Japanese are FUCKING HORRIBLE at marketing their cultural products to other countries, they spread because of fandom and demand NOT by any intelligent attempt to sell them by Japanese companies.

Let me us an example of old but good yu-gi-oh Online, Konami limited all purchases and participation in it to countries that had licensed trading card game stores.. and complained they didn't have enough support to sustain the game. When in countries that were " illegal to play it" at, had literally tons of people WANTING to play it and funds to PAY the ridiculous prices they had in it, I alone knew bit over dozen people that would have played the game in hearth beat if they allowed us to buy cards and match tokens online but non.

It took them YEARS to try something similiar... but they did it with global licence and BOOM yu gi oh duel links has 40m + downloads.

They could have had that ages ago but they are too focused on their small rock to bother thinking big picture.

It's same problem with anime, you STILL have to go to extremely specialized sites to get what you want and even then you either have to get fan subs or had to learn ( or as I did passively learn to understand) Japanese to get anything out of them.

Just look at steam, fucking 10 year old Japanese games usually land top 10 for week or so in sales just due the DEMAND, but people don't even still get it!

WE WANT OUR ANIME AND GAMES GOD DAMN IT, SELL THEM TO USE WE GOT THE MONEY *Throws Euro bills to map of japan*
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s0nicfreak wrote:

In the past a lot of what ended up known outside of Japan was "completed" and self-contained anime but it seems to me that it has ALWAYS been the case that most anime is an advertisement for manga/light novels, or toys, and therefore it has always been in their best interest to NOT complete the anime. Get people hooked on the story and then they have to read the manga/lns to continue = manga/ln sales. Keep an anime going on for years = more toy sales.


Yes, which is literally quite annoying. But it is their evil strategy, indeed. Won't work when their population is cut in 1/2 by 2100 or sooner, and they will be dependent on out-of-Japan sales to survive...


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However my house is only so big and there isn't much market for used Japanese-language manga/lns the US, so it has to be digital or translated.


Don't tell that to FUNimation... You Should Be Watching...



Doomdancer wrote:

I have always said, and I will keep repeating it.

That Japanese are FUCKING HORRIBLE at marketing their cultural products to other countries, they spread because of fandom and demand NOT by any intelligent attempt to sell them by Japanese companies.

It took them YEARS to try something similiar... but they did it with global licence and BOOM yu gi oh duel links has 40m + downloads.

They could have had that ages ago but they are too focused on their small rock to bother thinking big picture.

WE WANT OUR ANIME AND GAMES GOD DAMN IT, SELL THEM TO USE WE GOT THE MONEY *Throws Euro bills to map of japan*



Indeed, looks like ur not only one who shares this logic. Me been saying this for awhile in regards to Vocaloid/Crypton Future Media. U live outside US though which is like the only Western target for sales; Japanese people haven't discovered Europe yet it seems.

...that's why I needz to win the Powerball(US Lottery), hopefully when over $400million. I just literally take out company after company, and do it myself. Can buy lots of stuff with even only $100million. But no matter.
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Posted 5/29/17
Its like newspaper companies, one day they will have to face this time sooner or later.
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lol moe is the reason HxH isn't coming back? No, that's Dragon Quest.
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I dunno man, Carnival Phantasm was pretty good, if that's considered moe. I mean, it basically made fun of moe.
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