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If Star Trek's diversity is so damned legendary, why have there never been any Muslim crew members? Or even Muslim citizens? What happened to all the Muslims in Star Trek world?

The federation is big government on a galactic scale...


Well according to Gene, humans would have no religion in the future so there wouldn't be any, no Christians, Buddhists or any others either

although there was Dr Bashir played by Alexander Siddig (that was his stage name, his real name is Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi) and he was born in Sudan
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If Star Trek's diversity is so damned legendary, why have there never been any Muslim crew members? Or even Muslim citizens? What happened to all the Muslims in Star Trek world?

The federation is big government on a galactic scale...


if you pay even the slightest attention to the show there were very few mentions of any religions of earth
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DengekiFugu wrote:

If Star Trek's diversity is so damned legendary, why have there never been any Muslim crew members? Or even Muslim citizens? What happened to all the Muslims in Star Trek world?

The federation is big government on a galactic scale...


What is the point of this post?

The original Star Trek was revolutionary in many ways. It was not a show about space travel, but about the possibilities of the future. It was not multiracial just for the sake of it, but to bring to life Rodenberry's vision of an exciting, challenging future, where boundaries are pushed in more ways than one, a future where mankind has grown past most of its petty differences past the very concept of race and evem species discrimination, where Spock is born with a human mother and a vulcan father. In this future, the entire federation is not an inherently antagonistic force, but a coalition of many species and many races for the greatness of peace and prosperity, a hypothetical about what can be accomplished if we put down our weapons and move towards the future. This show includes talks of basic philosophy between McCoy trying to do the right thing versus Spock trying to do the most beneficial, of futuristic dilemmas, and how current problems exist in the next few centuries.

It is far from far future dystopian, while far from being ridden of problems in an endless galaxy, in an endless pursuit of the unknown.

I am not sure what will happen centuries in the future, but the hopeful nature of the show suggests such a future of human betterment may be attainable if we continue to better ourselves without the prideful denigration of others.

That being said, what is your point? It is a show started in the 60s.

That being said, a Federation is a conglomerate of many separate Governments that are relatively autonomous but work together for a common goal Dengeki, hence words like Confederation, or The Articles of Confederation. That is the definition, and it seems Rodenberry used it correctly.

It is more akin to a more unified and proactive United Nations, or the US system of state federalism if that pleases you.

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DengekiFugu wrote:

If Star Trek's diversity is so damned legendary, why have there never been any Muslim crew members? Or even Muslim citizens? What happened to all the Muslims in Star Trek world?

The federation is big government on a galactic scale...


Because religion doesn't feature much in Star Trek in general.
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JoJoTheModern wrote:

The "white genocide" tweeter added:


"as if 'diversity' could make it to space."

Someone hasn't seen- or even heard of- Hidden Figures.

"Never mind those hundreds of white women doing the same 10th grade math, diversity put us on the moon!"



tfw right now liberals are attacking Trump for wanting to spend money on Mars because 'people are suffering on earth!'




Wow, what happened to liberals being the easily offended ones?
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Star Trek has always been extremely diverse. They've always been on the diveristy and feminist push. All the different human and alien races, the religions, the black captain, the female captain, way back when captian Kirk kissed the black crew member, that was a big deal back then. It wasn't common to have blacks and whites in relations so much then.
So really why would you be surpirsed? Especially now the way that things are. Diversity and feminst agenda is being pushed more than ever, yes it is over done and forced i mean look at Marvel comics. But no one should be shocked that Star Trek would be having a cast/characters like this.

I recently watched "the Shannara chronicles" and i was fucking AMAZED at how white the cast was lol but i see in season 2 all five of the new characters are black and Asian.

Mass effect andromeda is another example. But in all honesty, that game i think is accurate of how the world will look in the future (not many white people).
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geauxtigers1989 wrote: white men are by far the worst in that regard.


Yeah no, let's stop making racist remarks like this please.
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What is wrong with these people?


Nothing. They want their link shared, so people will click it and look at their ads, because that's how they make money. And you've literally said nothing about the article, so every single person who wants to participate meaningfully in this discussion has to click the link.

That's exactly what they wanted, and you are now basically working for them. You came to the forum and said "hey, give these people some traffic" and now a bunch of other people are doing exactly that.

I hope they're paying you. Otherwise, what's wrong with YOU, sending traffic to people you hate for free?
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Mass effect andromeda is another example. But in all honesty, that game i think is accurate of how the world will look in the future (not many white people).


Humanity as a species will try to have sex with anything in any configuration. Within 200 years of achieving FTL we'll have fucked ourselves purple. Quite literally. If anything, Mass Effect's portrayal of there still being humans of any normal skin tone left is rather optimistic.

Putting that aside though, Bioware games is another place people often bark up the wrong tree when it comes to this topic. Every new Bioware title gets some group of white 20 something dudes on their forums in an uproar. Like, have you guys never played a Bioware game before?

It boggles my mind that people can play an rpg with 200 NPCs in it then throw a shitfit because they accidentally talked to one NPC that was gay.


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MrAnimeSK wrote:
Mass effect andromeda is another example. But in all honesty, that game i think is accurate of how the world will look in the future (not many white people).


Humanity as a species will try to have sex with anything in any configuration. Within 200 years of achieving FTL we'll have fucked ourselves purple. Quite literally. If anything, Mass Effect's portrayal of there still being humans of any normal skin tone left is rather optimistic.

Putting that aside though, Bioware games is another place people often bark up the wrong tree when it comes to this topic. Every new Bioware title gets some group of white 20 something dudes on their forums in an uproar. Like, have you guys never played a Bioware game before?

It boggles my mind that people can play an rpg with 200 NPCs in it then throw a shitfit because they accidentally talked to one NPC that was gay.




Many characters looked or seemd gay in MEA though. Like many of the males come across as gay with the body posture and that and almost evey female has either a feminist or lesbian hair cut/style.
I get what you're saying though.

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Many characters looked or seemd gay in MEA though. Like many of the males come across as gay with the body posture and that and almost evey female has either a feminist or lesbian hair cut/style.
I get what you're saying though.


Wut. How do you come to those conclusions unless you're actively looking around trying to find things you can claim are gay/feminist? >.>

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Considering this show is only on CBS all access, noone is going to see it anyways.
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warron25 wrote:

Considering this show is only on CBS all access, noone is going to see it anyways.


Thats only for the US. The rest of the world is getting it on Netflix. As is every American that can use a proxy.
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