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Posted 5/27/17 , edited 5/31/17

runec wrote:

That's only relaying the basics of a local news report and referencing Heat Street. I'm not defending the students behaviour I'm wondering what the full story behind it is. I'm certainly not going to get said full story from the sort of sources you read which are in a froth over "liberal academia" again.



Let me just put this out there. It doesn't matter what the guy said, it doesn't justify violent mob harassment and a takeover of the campus. Sounds a bit like you're blaming the victim here. Do you also think cops should wait for the 'full story' when it comes to rape victims?


I'm not defending the students behaviour, I'm just looking for any excuse to defend them because that is according to my principles


ftfy

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Footage from the campus in question, just to give an idea of what is going on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-SPKdLZBs0
Posted 5/28/17 , edited 6/1/17
Just call them assholes not sjws
or do not like you would change your mind or behavior either way
Just SJW is so overused it kind of defeats the point of the argument cause its kind of a godwin shutdown style argument but meh (you use the word SJW like the old hitler card where someone would say Hitler did insert thing
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the comment section of the video is hilarious

white Supremacists are saying how Blacks and the left are crazy

the Nazis are saying the left is right and is following their facist ideas



wtf is in their heads??
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Posted 5/28/17 , edited 5/31/17

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Funny how the right reports on news while the left ignores it when its inconvenient. 'Member when we had reporters that reported the news and let you make you own decision? Pepperridge farm members.


Dude, you can't read a news story without claiming there's some vast liberal conspiracy behind it. You're kind of the last person to be going on about objective decision making in journalism.


It doesn't have to be some Illuminati-style conspiracy. All the corruption just adds up. The destruction of society is just a matter of logistics, pumping more and more of this new leftist refuse into it, like a car engine getting low octane gas. The knocking just gets worse farther down the road.
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Posted 5/28/17 , edited 6/1/17
My thread got closed so I am posting this here so as to not lose it.

SJW's and all their racist buddies took over a campus and demanded that Jews and whites leave campus for a day of protest or face violence & Doxxing. Police were subserviant to the mob and were advising whites to leave for their own safety. It's fucking Pre-NAZI Germany and whites/Jews are the new Jews.



That professor talking about the situation: http://podblanc.guru/jew-bret-weinstein-does-not-get-antifa-pass-for-being-jew_3142debbd.html



https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32813/

The Evergreen State College biology professor Bret Weinstein was targeted by vitriolic and aggressive student protests against him this week after he refused to leave campus during a so-called “Day of Absence.” It was a day in which white people were told to stay away from campus so students of color could have a safe space to powwow and commiserate.

That observance was in mid-April, but this week massive protests unfolded against Weinstein after students found out about his conscientious objection to the absence day and his refusal to support their demands for racial reparations.

Videos of these protests show a bunch of mostly white students yelling at this white professor for not leaving campus on the no-whites day. Wrap your head around that.

Things have quickly escalated. Yesterday Weinstein was forced to hold class off-campus because police say they cannot protect him, he told a local TV news station.

“I have been told by the Chief of Police it’s not safe for me to be on campus,” said Weinstein, who held his Thursday class in a downtown Olympia park, King 5 reports, adding an “administrator confirmed the police department advised Weinstein it ‘might be best to stay off campus for a day or so.'”

Making matters worse, social justice warriors are targeting students who support Weinstein, threatening to dox those who helped him film the raucous protesters as they cornered him in the campus hallway and yelled at him and called him names.

Meanwhile, the administration is being feckless and silent about the real safety concerns faced by the biology professor and his student supporters, according to Weinstein’s recent tweets:




My students are being singled out for disagreeing with the conventional wisdom. Witch hunt, 2017. @EvergreenStCol is silent on the matter. pic.twitter.com/8LXlV5kRTx

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) May 25, 2017

Interesting that @EvergreenStCol still pretends that I “feel” unsafe, while the Evergreen Police tell me I am unsafe. Admin silent. George?

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) May 26, 2017

@EvergreenStCol To be clear: the police told me I am not safe on campus. They can not protect me. Students in jeopardy. No contact from admin. George?

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) May 25, 2017

Weinstein, who has taught at Evergreen State for 15 years, is also being targeted because he does not support the call to hire more faculty of color. For that, he’s been labeled a racist. Some are calling for his resignation. Graffiti has targeted him too, King 5 reports.

But he stands his ground, telling the news station “when one opposes these proposals, what happens is one is stigmatized as ‘anti-equity’ and because I am light-skinned the narrative suggests I’m a person who has benefited from privilege and that I’m trying to preserve that privilege in the face of a legitimate challenge.”

Unsurprisingly, the administration is encouraging even more disruptive student protests by promising to work with the activists “to address their issues,” saying officials have had “an intense and useful conversation” with them.


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Posted 5/28/17 , edited 5/31/17

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It doesn't have to be some Illuminati-style conspiracy. All the corruption just adds up. The destruction of society is just a matter of logistics, pumping more and more of this new leftist refuse into it, like a car engine getting low octane gas. The knocking just gets worse farther down the road.


If melodramatic college students could ruin a society America would have collapsed several decades ago.
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 5/29/17
It seems hypocritical when Amyas alleges Runec of trying to justify mob violence through victim blaming, when in a previous thread where two people were killed trying to down a mad knifeman for harassing two muslim women, his response was "Virtue signalling kills", which essentially is "victim blaming", as I feel that not only is the virtue signalling claim is unfair due to the lack of knowledge on said victims, but also because it implies that death is an appropriate punishment from what I have taken in consideration.

This is not a proper argument to deny his claims here, but it really irks me.
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 5/29/17
Having been on the receiving end of a much quieter version of this insanity - which, thankfully, the appropriate university channels dealt with mostly competently - I have no problem believing the story as reported, and that the students are in the wrong.

This is not a problem that can be laughed away as minor. Several decades ago the conditions did not exist for such an ideology to take hold - not least because society was more oppressive and lacked our current level of consciousness. But now large enough swathes of society accept a Marcusian view of free speech (and a lot more), to the point that there is a nontrivial amount of pressure against speaking or learning otherwise in academia. This means the future educated class will be like this, and they're already causing enough injustice and anti-intellectualism as it is. This is why I tend to be harder on the liberals here. Everyone sensible and educated knows better than to be crazy conservative; being introspective about what we agree with is much harder - and thus failing to be so is much more dangerous.
Posted 5/29/17 , edited 6/1/17

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It seems hypocritical when Amyas alleges Runec of trying to justify mob violence through victim blaming, when in a previous thread where two people were killed trying to down a mad knifeman for harassing two muslim women, his response was "Virtue signalling kills", which essentially is "victim blaming", as I feel that not only is the virtue signalling claim is unfair due to the lack of knowledge on said victims, but also because it implies that death is an appropriate punishment from what I have taken in consideration.

This is not a proper argument to deny his claims here, but it really irks me.


I wouldn't call it 'punishment' or appropriate, just cause and effect. Don't fuck with a ranting nutjob on public transport because they are saying mean words, they might just be stabby or shooty. Everyday, millions of people deal with them just fine without trying to beat them up to virtue signal.
Not exactly the same as 50+ strong mob of college students going after a professor because he disagreed with them.

On topic, another video from Evergreen campus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P64a5qZ6oMc
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 6/1/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugBr6FnCKiY

here is some of the meeting that happened after

listen to that racist bullshit, why the fuck are campuses allowing this shit to happen? god forbid we said "alright, tomorrow all the black people cant come onto campus" holy shit

and the cops are told to not do anything and the cops told the proffssor to not go on campus because he would be in danger, ugh I hate these regressive SJW's , its only a matter of time before they get violent
Posted 5/29/17 , edited 6/1/17

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugBr6FnCKiY

here is some of the meeting that happened after

listen to that racist bullshit, why the fuck are campuses allowing this shit to happen? god forbid we said "alright, tomorrow all the black people cant come onto campus" holy shit

and the cops are told to not do anything and the cops told the proffssor to not go on campus because he would be in danger, ugh I hate these regressive SJW's , its only a matter of time before they get violent


"uni loonys"
That's great

I'm guessing the mayor or police chief is an antifa/bamn sympathizer like at Berkeley.

Edit:
SO now the 'activists' are demanding the videos of them harassing professors and students be taken down
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/05/30/evergreen-student-activists-demand-video-of-them-screaming-cursing-at-college-president-be-taken-offline/


“We demand that the video created for Day of Absence and Day of Presence that was stolen by white supremacists and edited to expose and ridicule the students and staff be taken down by the administration by this Friday,” the students wrote in a list of demands to college President George Bridges.


Downloaded it just in case, you never know
It would be a shame if these videos came up any time a potential future employer googled their names...

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Makes me wonder WTF kind of school my sister went to.. ( she recently graduated from there) And the town she lives in......

*sigh*

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Posted 5/30/17 , edited 5/31/17
The usage of "SJW" somewhat degrades any point you were trying to make.
Also citation of breitbart, which is infamous for disseminating disinformation.

From the far-right sources provided, it seems like the students were in the wrong. Obviously, violence (or emotionally damaging behavior) is not tolerated. That said, student-driven grassroots change is perfect acceptable (these are adults, although even if they weren't it would still be important for their voices to be heard), and it appears that most students did not engage in any kind of violent (or emotionally damaging) behavior. The idea that students shouldn't be activists is completely contrary to the foundation of the US. Philosophers that came up with things like free speech and checks and balances did so as student/teacher activists.

However, I can't draw any strong conclusions about this particular event without center or left aligned sources to compare this to.

Also, one can be sued for defamation, so it would probably be wise to heed the requests of students. If you want to make the same argument about student -> teacher defamation, that case could only be made if the students themselves posted the videos, which does not appear to be the case.
Posted 5/30/17 , edited 6/1/17

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Also, one can be sued for defamation, so it would probably be wise to heed the requests of students


So videos of their idiocy aren't enough?

Also there was a far left wing source linked in the 7th comment in the thread. I always have ultra leftist links just for folks like you. Google is also your friend if you doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1agIlLlhg


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