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At this point it seems more likely that you actually agree with me to a substantial extent and are falseflagging in order to rile people up and/or make progressives look bad.

If you are, I feel the need to tell you that most feminists aren't as stupid as you think. If not, most feminists aren't as stupid as you are.
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For the first part, yes, we hate "white feminists" (the term for women who use feminism as an excuse to get what they want rather than to fight for equality) too for the same reason. They spoil the name of feminism for us "intersectional feminists."

Here's the thing: Big groups that advocate for women in STEM work, and they work well. Affirmative action also works. It's just another tool.
There are legitimate reasons that forcefully advocating for women in STEM is a good thing.

Women have different experiences than men, and tend to think in different ways. This offers different solutions that may work better.

As an example, women tend to prefer different types of video games than men, and so in order to cater to a larger audience, it's actually beneficial for companies to try to keep an even split whenever possible. Without enough women being introduced to STEM though, that's not always possible.


(the numbers are following the order of the lines I quoted above)

1. Quite frankly, the "white" vs "intersectional" feminist labels are actually nowhere near as different as the latter group claims they are. To compare, it's kind of like how Trotskyists claim to have some level of moral superiority over other contemporary Communist ideologies, when their differences are really very superficial while both are based on a highly flawed set of ideas (i.e. Marxism in the Trotskyist case) and have methodologies that are ultimately similar in practice (i.e. Lenin and Trotsky were mass murderers long before Stalin took power).

2. What do you mean by those groups working? Do you mean 'work' as in get more women into STEM majors/jobs? Or does 'work' refer to something more general like somehow improving the field that those people are going into?

3. By 'solutions' are you referring to actual answers to scientific and engineering problems? Science is not based on personal 'experiences', and neither is engineering or any other part of the STEM fields. Part of the point behind the scientific method and peer review is that they ensure that correct, properly-analyzed results need to be consistent regardless of who is collecting and analyzing them.

4. I don't understand what you mean in this last part, an even split in terms of products being released or in terms of employees? If it's the former, then this is a false analogy.

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For the first part, yes, we hate "white feminists" (the term for women who use feminism as an excuse to get what they want rather than to fight for equality) too for the same reason. They spoil the name of feminism for us "intersectional feminists."

Here's the thing: Big groups that advocate for women in STEM work, and they work well. Affirmative action also works. It's just another tool.
There are legitimate reasons that forcefully advocating for women in STEM is a good thing. Women have different experiences than men, and tend to think in different ways. This offers different solutions that may work better.
As an example, women tend to prefer different types of video games than men, and so in order to cater to a larger audience, it's actually beneficial for companies to try to keep an even split whenever possible. Without enough women being introduced to STEM though, that's not always possible.


And this is where you fail. Women DON'T prefer different video games as males, and the whole point to erasing sexism is to point out that there isn't any significant difference between men and women. Here you want to highlight those differences and give it an honorary status.

Positive sexism.
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Quite the embarassment. Nice to know where our taxes are going towards.
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It bothers me because, it doesn't matter if the Professor is Purple with Red/Blue Stripes, they are there to teach you and expand your knowledge. Sometimes the Professors that challenged me most are the ones I learned the most from. The idiot is the one who has such a weak world view that it cannot be challenged.
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gghadur77 wrote:

At this point it seems more likely that you actually agree with me to a substantial extent and are falseflagging in order to rile people up and/or make progressives look bad.

If you are, I feel the need to tell you that most feminists aren't as stupid as you think. If not, most feminists aren't as stupid as you are


I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not saying white feminists are the majority, I'm saying they make a bad reputation for the rest. There's a reason MRAs only cite the same two or three people when talking about how "feminism is a plague on humanity" or whatever.


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theunlocked wrote:

For the first part, yes, we hate "white feminists" (the term for women who use feminism as an excuse to get what they want rather than to fight for equality) too for the same reason. They spoil the name of feminism for us "intersectional feminists."

Here's the thing: Big groups that advocate for women in STEM work, and they work well. Affirmative action also works. It's just another tool.
There are legitimate reasons that forcefully advocating for women in STEM is a good thing.

Women have different experiences than men, and tend to think in different ways. This offers different solutions that may work better.

As an example, women tend to prefer different types of video games than men, and so in order to cater to a larger audience, it's actually beneficial for companies to try to keep an even split whenever possible. Without enough women being introduced to STEM though, that's not always possible.


(the numbers are following the order of the lines I quoted above)

1. Quite frankly, the "white" vs "intersectional" feminist labels are actually nowhere near as different as the latter group claims they are. To compare, it's kind of like how Trotskyists claim to have some level of moral superiority over other contemporary Communist ideologies, when their differences are really very superficial while both are based on a highly flawed set of ideas (i.e. Marxism in the Trotskyist case) and have methodologies that are ultimately similar in practice (i.e. Lenin and Trotsky were mass murderers long before Stalin took power).

2. What do you mean by those groups working? Do you mean 'work' as in get more women into STEM majors/jobs? Or does 'work' refer to something more general like somehow improving the field that those people are going into?

3. By 'solutions' are you referring to actual answers to scientific and engineering problems? Science is not based on personal 'experiences', and neither is engineering or any other part of the STEM fields. Part of the point behind the scientific method and peer review is that they ensure that correct, properly-analyzed results need to be consistent regardless of who is collecting and analyzing them.

4. I don't understand what you mean in this last part, an even split in terms of products being released or in terms of employees? If it's the former, then this is a false analogy.


1. One is based on exploiting an issue and the other is based on fixing an issue. That's pretty different. There's also an difference of scope that I'm not gonna get into right now.

2. Work as in get more women into STEM jobs.

3. While it's true that results are not based around experiences, science is. There are plenty of things that many men wouldn't even think about trying to study but many women would.

4. Employees.


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And this is where you fail. Women DON'T prefer different video games as males, and the whole point to erasing sexism is to point out that there isn't any significant difference between men and women. Here you want to highlight those differences and give it an honorary status.

Positive sexism.


Maybe in an ideal world there would be no such thing as gender (idk what your ideal world is), but we don't live in that world, and there are differences, and ignoring those isn't a solution. Trying to paint everyone as the same is what destroys culture, and it's basically what was attempted in the USSR. We're not all the same, but that doesn't mean we're not equal, and it doesn't mean we can't work together.
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Maybe in an ideal world there would be no such thing as gender (idk what your ideal world is), but we don't live in that world, and there are differences, and ignoring those isn't a solution. Trying to paint everyone as the same is what destroys culture, and it's basically what was attempted in the USSR. We're not all the same, but that doesn't mean we're not equal, and it doesn't mean we can't work together.


Actually, I would prefer to erase sexual and racial cultures. Religious ones too.

These cultures are a huge source of the us vs. them mentality, and a lot of black culture, for example, is poor people's culture. Criticizing someone within the culture for not being "black" enough is something I've seen more often than not, and it hold people back.

Feminism is PLAGUED with the desire to be "sexually positive" these days, but that WHORE Ivanka posed for playboy nude and thus is trash not worthy of being a first lady.. Or Emma Watson's photoshoot for a men's magazine is positive and empowering but she doesn't like it when Beyonce does it... Women want the same rights as men, anything men can do women can do it better!!! But FUCK NO when the rules of drafting citizens into the military was changed to include women (even if it was regarded as mainly symbolic and a draft hasn't been enacted in several decades).

And what's wrong with doing away with culture and groups anyhow? Everyone wants to be their unique and special individual.. (except when everyone's special, nobody's special. And everyone strives to be the most special-est special evar!!!!)

Humanity as a whole is a joke. And what I said above is a perfect example of this great irony.

There is nothing that makes you special as a woman as there is nothing that makes me special as a man. We're both humans with our own INDIVIDUAL aptitudes and weaknesses. We are what we choose to be and the product of our individual struggles and our own individual choices, and the skills we, with our independent lives, have focused on building.


Because people fail to recognize this and focus on their groups and rationalizing their traits and their behaviors as a result of their ethnicity or their gender or their sexual preferences, they will never be free of them. Those are the chains of bad faith these individuals choose to wear.
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My thread got closed so I am posting this here so as to not lose it.

SJW's and all their racist buddies took over a campus and demanded that Jews and whites leave campus for a day of protest or face violence & Doxxing. Police were subserviant to the mob and were advising whites to leave for their own safety. It's fucking Pre-NAZI Germany and whites/Jews are the new Jews.



That professor talking about the situation: http://podblanc.guru/jew-bret-weinstein-does-not-get-antifa-pass-for-being-jew_3142debbd.html



https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32813/

The Evergreen State College biology professor Bret Weinstein was targeted by vitriolic and aggressive student protests against him this week after he refused to leave campus during a so-called “Day of Absence.” It was a day in which white people were told to stay away from campus so students of color could have a safe space to powwow and commiserate.

That observance was in mid-April, but this week massive protests unfolded against Weinstein after students found out about his conscientious objection to the absence day and his refusal to support their demands for racial reparations.

Videos of these protests show a bunch of mostly white students yelling at this white professor for not leaving campus on the no-whites day. Wrap your head around that.

Things have quickly escalated. Yesterday Weinstein was forced to hold class off-campus because police say they cannot protect him, he told a local TV news station.

“I have been told by the Chief of Police it’s not safe for me to be on campus,” said Weinstein, who held his Thursday class in a downtown Olympia park, King 5 reports, adding an “administrator confirmed the police department advised Weinstein it ‘might be best to stay off campus for a day or so.'”

Making matters worse, social justice warriors are targeting students who support Weinstein, threatening to dox those who helped him film the raucous protesters as they cornered him in the campus hallway and yelled at him and called him names.

Meanwhile, the administration is being feckless and silent about the real safety concerns faced by the biology professor and his student supporters, according to Weinstein’s recent tweets:




My students are being singled out for disagreeing with the conventional wisdom. Witch hunt, 2017. @EvergreenStCol is silent on the matter. pic.twitter.com/8LXlV5kRTx

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) May 25, 2017

Interesting that @EvergreenStCol still pretends that I “feel” unsafe, while the Evergreen Police tell me I am unsafe. Admin silent. George?

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) May 26, 2017

@EvergreenStCol To be clear: the police told me I am not safe on campus. They can not protect me. Students in jeopardy. No contact from admin. George?

— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) May 25, 2017

Weinstein, who has taught at Evergreen State for 15 years, is also being targeted because he does not support the call to hire more faculty of color. For that, he’s been labeled a racist. Some are calling for his resignation. Graffiti has targeted him too, King 5 reports.

But he stands his ground, telling the news station “when one opposes these proposals, what happens is one is stigmatized as ‘anti-equity’ and because I am light-skinned the narrative suggests I’m a person who has benefited from privilege and that I’m trying to preserve that privilege in the face of a legitimate challenge.”

Unsurprisingly, the administration is encouraging even more disruptive student protests by promising to work with the activists “to address their issues,” saying officials have had “an intense and useful conversation” with them.


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Might i add the site you're linking has categories like "white genocide" excuse me if i never take anything you say seriously.
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Actually, I would prefer to erase sexual and racial cultures. Religious ones too.

These cultures are a huge source of the us vs. them mentality, and a lot of black culture, for example, is poor people's culture. Criticizing someone within the culture for not being "black" enough is something I've seen more often than not, and it hold people back.

Feminism is PLAGUED with the desire to be "sexually positive" these days, but that WHORE Ivanka posed for playboy nude and thus is trash not worthy of being a first lady.. Or Emma Watson's photoshoot for a men's magazine is positive and empowering but she doesn't like it when Beyonce does it... Women want the same rights as men, anything men can do women can do it better!!! But FUCK NO when the rules of drafting citizens into the military was changed to include women (even if it was regarded as mainly symbolic and a draft hasn't been enacted in several decades).

And what's wrong with doing away with culture and groups anyhow? Everyone wants to be their unique and special individual.. (except when everyone's special, nobody's special. And everyone strives to be the most special-est special evar!!!!)

Humanity as a whole is a joke. And what I said above is a perfect example of this great irony.

There is nothing that makes you special as a woman as there is nothing that makes me special as a man. We're both humans with our own INDIVIDUAL aptitudes and weaknesses. We are what we choose to be and the product of our individual struggles and our own individual choices, and the skills we, with our independent lives, have focused on building.


Because people fail to recognize this and focus on their groups and rationalizing their traits and their behaviors as a result of their ethnicity or their gender or their sexual preferences, they will never be free of them. Those are the chains of bad faith these individuals choose to wear.


Oh boy.

Answered in paragraph number:
1. While you may not, others have pride in their culture, and trying to strip that away from them in order to suit your own preferences is a textbook example of cultural supremacy.

2. Oh yes, let's make blacks assimilate to white middle class culture because obviously they're the problem and not us. Sorry if it seems like I'm stretching that too far, but it's what you sound like. As for "not being black enough," that's not a cultural problem, that's a clique problem which scales up, and good luck eliminating cliques.

3. Not all feminists like eachother. That's like saying all Christians like eachother. It makes no sense.
3.5. People are opposed to adding women to the draft because they're opposed to a draft at all. You're making a Harrison Bergeron-style argument. Don't drag people down, pull others up.

...

6. Except for, you know, there are literally cognitive differences between men and women, and culture and upbringing shape a large portion of one's personality, and implicit biases affect everyone's lives even if you try to act like they don't exist.

7. Except they're actually right. See above ^
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Quite the embarassment. Nice to know where our taxes are going towards.


Not for long if this legislation passes

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9245


State lawmakers in Washington are fed up with the antics of Evergreen State College, and plan to introduce legislation Thursday to privatize the left-leaning institution."
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Oh boy.

Answered in paragraph number:
1. While you may not, others have pride in their culture, and trying to strip that away from them in order to suit your own preferences is a textbook example of cultural supremacy.

2. Oh yes, let's make blacks assimilate to white middle class culture because obviously they're the problem and not us. Sorry if it seems like I'm stretching that too far, but it's what you sound like. As for "not being black enough," that's not a cultural problem, that's a clique problem which scales up, and good luck eliminating cliques.5

3. Not all feminists like eachother. That's like saying all Christians like eachother. It makes no sense.
3.5. People are opposed to adding women to the draft because they're opposed to a draft at all. You're making a Harrison Bergeron-style argument. Don't drag people down, pull others up.

...

6. Except for, you know, there are literally cognitive differences between men and women, and culture and upbringing shape a large portion of one's personality, and implicit biases affect everyone's lives even if you try to act like they don't exist.

7. Except they're actually right. See above ^


1. The one religious quote I like more than any else is "pride cometh before a fall". Beyond that, I am not enforcing MY culture as the superior one. I am simply stating that as long as we have these culturally imposed differences, we have issues. White america has its own issues. Trust me...

2. A clique is a handful of friends. The "black enough" issue is a cultural issue and a well known one as it has appeared in pop culture and the media PLENTY of times (see "dear white people", "the boondocks", etc). Is white america as you seem to think I am promoting, the solution? See the above.....

3. You're right. I was pointing out hypocrisy more than differences in beliefs.

3.5 Women didn't give a fuck about the draft issue till that moment. Show me the new feminism that is ok with giving up some benefits they have over men...

6. Ok... Let's humor you then. HOW are women and men thinking different? I'll take you apart once you start trying to explain that one.

And an aside, did you ever watch Kids in the Hall? I got some clips to dig up from that comedy show...
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