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if you believe in that stuff: / check out this movie


i didn't know about it until recently

"Hillary's America" Trailer | Official Teaser Trailer HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary%27s_America:_The_Secret_History_of_the_Democratic_Party

it has the worst score ion IMBD -- but it's pretty obvious
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5646136/


i had to look up the author after the video..

if Dinesh was white i think they would call him a racist and what he is saying as "hate speech"

Dinesh D'Souza Answers Some Hot Questions At Brandeis University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyOxKf7rAY0

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if you believe in that stuff: / check out this movie


i didn't know about it until recently

"Hillary's America" Trailer | Official Teaser Trailer HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e6gLht6OQ

Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary%27s_America:_The_Secret_History_of_the_Democratic_Party

it has the worst score ion IMBD -- but it's pretty obvious
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5646136/


i had to look up the author after the video..

if Dinesh was white i think they would call him a racist and what he is saying as "hate speech"

Dinesh D'Souza Answers Some Hot Questions At Brandeis University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyOxKf7rAY0



ive tried findin somewhere to watch that buti cant
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ive tried findin somewhere to watch that buti cant


the trailer or the whole movie ?

you can watch the whole movie from these places
https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+america+watch&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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this video is complete bullshit and if you understand history you would know why.
For one LBJ the president who pushed a lot of racial equality things was part of the democrat party so dems opposing minority rights in the 60s is not true, but there is a history of liberals promising racial equality but it just kinda didn't happen, for instance FDR (who is a dem) promised to improve racial issues but he didn't really do shit.
http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html
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The free market sounds really nice in practice but is actually trash garbage. Just look at the current internet landscape in the US with things like net neutrality being destroyed (hint the companies are avoiding competition with one another and are instead pushing trash garbage plans on people). Also an example of things like the free market just not working is stuff like preexisting conditions.
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At least the democrats aren't actively trying to screw 23 million people out of health coverage. But hey both sides suck amiright?


Lmfao, the ignorance is appalling.

That's a lie spread by the left. Most of those "23 million" is just a numbers game to them. Those people will be the same people who were already uninsured in the first place, but were required to do so because ObamaCare ya'll.

Medicaid on the other hand is a separate program altogether. The only ones who will be removed from that are the ones who shouldn't have been on it in the first place.


Those numbers are from the CBO... are you going to claim EVERYTHING you don't like is "liberal bias"?
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this video is complete bullshit and if you understand history you would know why.
For one LBJ the president who pushed a lot of racial equality things was part of the democrat party so dems opposing minority rights in the 60s is not true, but there is a history of liberals promising racial equality but it just kinda didn't happen, for instance FDR (who is a dem) promised to improve racial issues but he didn't really do shit.
http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html


To be fair to FDR; and the later democratic presidents like LBJ, many of the democratic party was from the south and were still very racist. Known as Blue Dog Democrats, traditionally red states it is not surprising they would still be so racist.
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That 23 million includes millions of young and healthy people who don't want to spend hundreds a month on health insurance. How many of those 23 million are illegals that are currently stealing healthcare?
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At least the democrats aren't actively trying to screw 23 million people out of health coverage. But hey both sides suck amiright?

>> False the Democrats think little of the tax payers! where do you get those numbers, I don't play with numbers because
they usually not correct in figures.

>> Read the letters sent Rep. David Vitter he sent letters to medicaid head Marilyn-Tavenner,on illegals with no face or documentation
signing up to use Obama-care that's right! illegals all the burden laid out for the tax payers.

The Louisiana Republican sent a letter to the head of Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) demanding to know how the agency would handle the thousands of people who have ignored requests to verify their immigration status.
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Those numbers are from the CBO... are you going to claim EVERYTHING you don't like is "liberal bias"?



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That 23 million includes millions of young and healthy people who don't want to spend hundreds a month on health insurance. How many of those 23 million are illegals that are currently stealing healthcare?


I believe Apple said it best.
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Lemontitties wrote:


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Those numbers are from the CBO... are you going to claim EVERYTHING you don't like is "liberal bias"?



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That 23 million includes millions of young and healthy people who don't want to spend hundreds a month on health insurance. How many of those 23 million are illegals that are currently stealing healthcare?


I believe Apple said it best.


For once i agree with something thats from something named apple
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alchemist27ish wrote:

this video is complete bullshit and if you understand history you would know why.
For one LBJ the president who pushed a lot of racial equality things was part of the democrat party so dems opposing minority rights in the 60s is not true, but there is a history of liberals promising racial equality but it just kinda didn't happen, for instance FDR (who is a dem) promised to improve racial issues but he didn't really do shit.
http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html


To be fair to FDR; and the later democratic presidents like LBJ, many of the democratic party was from the south and were still very racist. Known as Blue Dog Democrats, traditionally red states it is not surprising they would still be so racist.


I don't deny these people did great work but i think we should also be honest about their shortcomings too.
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That 23 million includes millions of young and healthy people who don't want to spend hundreds a month on health insurance. How many of those 23 million are illegals that are currently stealing healthcare?


You have no #s to back that up, also a good majority of people who will be kicked off of healthcare are those with preexisting conditions cause states can waive the preexisting condition protection, so a good majority of the people kicked off will be people who really really need the healthcare.
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Lemontitties wrote:


TarNaru33 wrote:



Those numbers are from the CBO... are you going to claim EVERYTHING you don't like is "liberal bias"?



AppleFart wrote:

That 23 million includes millions of young and healthy people who don't want to spend hundreds a month on health insurance. How many of those 23 million are illegals that are currently stealing healthcare?


I believe Apple said it best.


So you believe speculating that some of those numbers are illegal immigrants are more legitimate than the CBO score which is considered non-partisan by both sides? I swear, some of you have quite the mental leaps. I would agree with you if it was founded on some proof, but it isn't. You can't say "but this" if you don't have proof, which is why everyone with a brain threw out Trumps "millions of illegal votes BS" because there have been no such thing in U.S history. If you read the bill and have some form of comprehension and understanding of basic economics, you should easily come to the conclusion that people are going to lose health insurance.

If you turn Medicaid into a block grant, it means less money... The Republican theory is that it will force government to be more efficient, when all it does is cause rationing until it runs out, which Republicans use "rationing" as a negative factor in single-payer/government healthcare. Not to mention, their risk pool funding and block grants are still too low. It makes no sense. Limiting healthcare by some number you decided on a whim is not how healthcare should be done. You are talking about messing around with millions of people's lives.

If you give people fees for getting insured after being uninsured for 2 months, that makes it more likely they would not be able to buy it.. This is literally an incentive to NOT get health insurance; the punishment for losing health insurance and not getting it for 2 months is already there in that you have to wait for the next enrollment date barring certain circumstances.

With lower people on health insurance it would automatically mean a rise in prices as only people who need it will actually try to get it. A common thing you all would probably forget is that health insurance pre-ACA was already rising by significant percentages, outpacing inflation very easily.

These both would automatically result in people not just losing insurance, but not trying to get it back.



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TarNaru33 wrote:


alchemist27ish wrote:

this video is complete bullshit and if you understand history you would know why.
For one LBJ the president who pushed a lot of racial equality things was part of the democrat party so dems opposing minority rights in the 60s is not true, but there is a history of liberals promising racial equality but it just kinda didn't happen, for instance FDR (who is a dem) promised to improve racial issues but he didn't really do shit.
http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html


To be fair to FDR; and the later democratic presidents like LBJ, many of the democratic party was from the south and were still very racist. Known as Blue Dog Democrats, traditionally red states it is not surprising they would still be so racist.


I don't deny these people did great work but i think we should also be honest about their shortcomings too.


Eh, I am not going to include Congress's refusal to help the President push legislation that would help Americans as a negative of the President. That is a shortcoming of Congress, there is literally nothing a President can do about a do-nothing Congress.
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