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Which do you think was the better film?
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Depends on the mood. Most people tend to side for more dramatic films for "Oscar worthy", versus the irreverent humor of Deadpool. This same bias extends to science fiction and horror, and one of the theorized reasons why Silence of the Lambs won the Academy Award for best picture was because it billed itself as thriller despite its horror element, similar to the Coen brother's Fargo, which had dark comedy elements.

That being said, it is doubtful Heath Ledger would have won his posthumous rewards if he had not died, and this is just bias against superhero films being overridden by sympathy.

In essence, there is a clear bias against mostly comedy that dramas do not have.

Though if I had to say, I believe Logan is one of the best superhero movies period.
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That's a hard one, because as someone just "getting into" films I really enjoyed Deadpool as an over the top comedy. But a lot of people familiar with Kick-Ass or Super seem to look down on it. I haven't seen those, but I think a big problem is people seeing Deadpool as a "deconstruction" and criticizing it under those merits. The term deconstruction is already over used but 99% of the time it isn't even used correctly. Deadpool is a film about having fun with a charismatic protagonist who occassionally pokes fun of tropes, nothing more nothing less. It's still tropey and doesn't really comment on tropes in a meaningful fashion. It's more akin to carrying around a piece of dirty underwear and laughing at all the shitstains.

Logan is very good. At first I thought Logan had a handful of sizeable issues, but after rewatching it I think they work well with the theme of comic exploitation/prophecy vs Reality. Logan makes me want to get into comics. Deadpool just makes me laugh. I think Deadpool is something you possibly appreciate less once youre familiar with similar works to it, but im not to sure. Logan is probably way better than The Dark Knight tbh. Im only guessing because I havent seen the latter in years.

Logan does feel like "The Last Of Us : Now with Wolverine!" though. I am not sure when the source material was published though, so thats not a criticism.

Overall : Both stand up as films without the Super hero tag line added onto them, but i think Logan's themes are better for a standalone movie than Deadpool's. Logan wins imo.
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Logan was way better and is quite possibly the best Superhero movie made.

Deadpool was seriously overrated imo and not nearly as funny as people believe it is, I doubt in a year or two the movie overall will still be highly regarded once the charm of it and the pop culture jokes it makes fade and alot of the "comedy" moments were pretty hit and miss.
I'm not saying it was bad and it has some decent parts but it's not the be all end all.
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Both are good in their own respect but for me I'd have to go with Logan.
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

That's a hard one, because as someone just "getting into" films I really enjoyed Deadpool as an over the top comedy. But a lot of people familiar with Kick-Ass or Super seem to look down on it. I haven't seen those, but I think a big problem is people seeing Deadpool as a "deconstruction" and criticizing it under those merits. The term deconstruction is already over used but 99% of the time it isn't even used correctly. Deadpool is a film about having fun with a charismatuc protagonist who occassionally pokes fun of tropes, nothing more nothing less. It's still tropey and doesn't really comment on tropes in a meaningful fashion. It's more akin to carrying around a piece of dirty underwear and laughing at all the shitstains.

Logan is very good. At first I thought Logan had a handful of sizeable issues, but after rewatching it I think they work well with the theme of comic exploitation/prophecy vs Reality. Logan makes me want to get into comics. Deadpool just makes me laugh. I think Deadpool is something you possibly appreciate less once youre familiar with similar works to it, but im not to sure. Logan is probably better than The Dark Knight tbh


I agree with statement on the term deconstruction being overused.A lot of people seem to think that it was.You really should start reading comics.Comics are what got me into anime/manga.As for your last statement, that's a bold claim.I'll have to rewatch the dark knight before I can decide which is better.Though I may be leaning towards Logan also.
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Logan was way better and is quite possibly the best Superhero movie made.

Deadpool was seriously overrated imo and not nearly as funny as people believe it is, I doubt in a year or two the movie overall will still be highly regarded once the charm of it and the pop culture jokes it makes fade and alot of the "comedy" moments were pretty hit and miss.
I'm not saying it was bad and it has some decent parts but it's not the be all end all.


I have to disagree.I loved deadpool,but that may be because I'm a fan of the comics.Though I do agree with your sentiment that it was overrated.A lot of people were calling it a deconstruction and overhyping how funny it is.
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Ashliet wrote:

Logan was way better and is quite possibly the best Superhero movie made.

Deadpool was seriously overrated imo and not nearly as funny as people believe it is, I doubt in a year or two the movie overall will still be highly regarded once the charm of it and the pop culture jokes it makes fade and alot of the "comedy" moments were pretty hit and miss.
I'm not saying it was bad and it has some decent parts but it's not the be all end all.


I have to disagree.I loved deadpool,but that may be because I'm a fan of the comics.Though I do agree with you sentiment that it was overrated.A lot of people were calling it a deconstruction and overhyping how funny it is.


I'm a fan of the comics also I thought it was good but I didn't love it because to me its pretty forgettable overall for any of the scenes where he wasn't Deadpool, or left no real lasting impression on me.
Seeing it first in theatres for me was a terrible idea sitting around obnoxious people laughing loudly at things that weren't even funny,
Like him sayng "What in the ass" at the end the same way they loudly laughed at parts that were humurous.
I guess it matches thhough I never really laughed much at the Deadpool comics because Deadpool just isn't funny.
Seriously though at time goes on the dated jokes and memes used will age the film heavily.
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I agree with statement on the term deconstruction being overused.A lot of people seem to think that it was.You really should start reading comics.Comics are what got me into anime/manga.As for your last statement, that's a bold claim.I'll have to rewatch the dark knight before I can decide which is better.Though I may be leaning towards Logan also.


I would like to but im not really into campy stuff. However, the only real reason i dont read comics is that I dint know where to begin. There are so many different versions of the same characters with different writers, illustrators, etc and its just so confusing. I wouldnt know where to begin. Manga is so much simpler
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ronin99 wrote:

I agree with statement on the term deconstruction being overused.A lot of people seem to think that it was.You really should start reading comics.Comics are what got me into anime/manga.As for your last statement, that's a bold claim.I'll have to rewatch the dark knight before I can decide which is better.Though I may be leaning towards Logan also.


I would like to but im not really into campy stuff. However, the only real reason i dont read comics is that I dint know where to begin. There are so many different versions of the same characters with different writers, illustrators, etc and its just so confusing. I wouldnt know where to begin. Manga is so much simpler


This is how I feel looking at the Monogatari series.
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


ronin99 wrote:

I agree with statement on the term deconstruction being overused.A lot of people seem to think that it was.You really should start reading comics.Comics are what got me into anime/manga.As for your last statement, that's a bold claim.I'll have to rewatch the dark knight before I can decide which is better.Though I may be leaning towards Logan also.


I would like to but im not really into campy stuff. However, the only real reason i dont read comics is that I dint know where to begin. There are so many different versions of the same characters with different writers, illustrators, etc and its just so confusing. I wouldnt know where to begin. Manga is so much simpler


Yeah,that's true.I started reading comics when I was 6,and through the years just kinda figured things out.Like I'd pick up a random comic from the library and say "oh this looks cool!",but when I'd read it I'd realize theirs a whole storyline going on so I'd have to get the previous comic and so on.Tbh,it dose take a long time to finally catch up with everything and know all the storylines, writers, illustrators etc.I would recommend starting with indie comics or smaller comic publications ,as they follow much more single,cohesive storylines.
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Ashliet wrote:


ronin99 wrote:


Ashliet wrote:

Logan was way better and is quite possibly the best Superhero movie made.

Deadpool was seriously overrated imo and not nearly as funny as people believe it is, I doubt in a year or two the movie overall will still be highly regarded once the charm of it and the pop culture jokes it makes fade and alot of the "comedy" moments were pretty hit and miss.
I'm not saying it was bad and it has some decent parts but it's not the be all end all.


I have to disagree.I loved deadpool,but that may be because I'm a fan of the comics.Though I do agree with you sentiment that it was overrated.A lot of people were calling it a deconstruction and overhyping how funny it is.


I'm a fan of the comics also I thought it was good but I didn't love it because to me its pretty forgettable overall for any of the scenes where he wasn't Deadpool, or left no real lasting impression on me.
Seeing it first in theatres for me was a terrible idea sitting around obnoxious people laughing loudly at things that weren't even funny,
Like him sayng "What in the ass" at the end the same way they loudly laughed at parts that were humurous.
I guess it matches thhough I never really laughed much at the Deadpool comics because Deadpool just isn't funny.
Seriously though at time goes on the dated jokes and memes used will age the film heavily.


Yeah,I don't really see movies in theaters.The audience annoys the hell out of me.When I do see a movie in theaters, it's usually a couple weeks after.I never really thought about how the film will age.I could see how the jokes may age the film, but well have to see.
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Deadpool is a good spoof on Superhero movies with very little rewatch value, but still pretty much achieves what it sets out to do. And Logan is just an amazing dramatic film. Aside from the R ratings, I don't think there's much comparison.
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Balzack wrote:

Deadpool is a good spoof on Superhero movies with very little rewatch value, but still pretty much achieves what it sets out to do. And Logan is just an amazing dramatic film. Aside from the R ratings, I don't think there's much comparison.


Logan reminds me of a movie verson of The Last of Us (if you played that game) and draws out alot of emotions I felt while playing the game.
It was brilliantly done and the acting in the film is stellar.
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Hard to compare since they're literary polar opposite superhero movies.

Both are good movies I like for different reasons.
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