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Trump is pro-cure
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Posted 5/31/17 , edited 5/31/17
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/31/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-april-2-2017-world-autism-awareness

I only found this now since alot of Autistic communities are speaking about it and are very upset and mad for a good reason.

Seriously Trump go fuck yourself i mean sure if someone is severely disabled but for the most part alot of Autistic people are fine the way they are and taking a pro-cure stance is why Autism speaks is a known as a shitty thing.

Also a cure would involved brain surgery and rewiring the brain and you want to "intervene" and "Cure them" that's horrible forcing a "Cure" upon someone when they aren't old enough to decide such a decision.

The whole cure thing is just very offensive and by how its worded here it makes it sound like he wants to cure it and stop Autistic people from ever existing just because it is a disability disregarding anything good that comes out of it.

http://autisticadvocacy.org/2017/04/asan-condemns-white-house-autism-proclamation/
Atleast the ASAN has some form of intelligence on the matter.


Lets remove people from the gene pool because we see them as inferior because they suffer socially due to a developmental disorder oh smart.

This sort of thinking is dangerous we should be working on ways to make life easier for Autistic people then preventing it because despite what some people like to believe Autistic people existing is not actually a terrible thing.

of course this is all different from those on the lower end of the spectrum who do suffer and don't bring foward any benefits to society but just because of that one end that shouldn't mean prevention and curing of those who aren't old enough to decide.
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Maybe Trump can pro-cure a fucking clue and start acting somewhat like an actual leader.

I mostly just wanted to make that wordplay.
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Maybe Trump can pro-cure a fucking clue and start acting somewhat like an actual leader.

I mostly just wanted to make that wordplay.


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I didn't know pro-cure was a thing, but I did know he was one of those weird anti-vaccine because it might cause autism people.
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/31/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-april-2-2017-world-autism-awareness

I only found this now since alot of Autistic communities are speaking about it and are very upset and mad for a good reason.

Seriously Trump go fuck yourself i mean sure if someone is severely disabled but for the most part alot of Autistic people are fine the way they are and taking a pro-cure stance is why Autism speaks is a known as a shitty thing.

Also a cure would involved brain surgery and rewiring the brain and you want to "intervene" and "Cure them" that's horrible forcing a "Cure" upon someone when they aren't old enough to decide such a decision.

The whole cure thing is just very offensive and by how its worded here it makes it sound like he wants to cure it and stop Autistic people from ever existing just because it is a disability disregarding anything good that comes out of it.

http://autisticadvocacy.org/2017/04/asan-condemns-white-house-autism-proclamation/
Atleast the ASAN has some form of intelligence on the matter.


Lets remove people from the gene pool because we see them as inferior because they suffer socially due to a developmental disorder oh smart.

This sort of thinking is dangerous we should be working on ways to make life easier for Autistic people then preventing it because despite what some people like to believe Autistic people existing is not actually a terrible thing.

of course this is all different from those on the lower end of the spectrum who do suffer and don't bring foward any benefits to society but just because of that one end that shouldn't mean prevention and curing of those who aren't old enough to decide.


So hypothetically, if tomorrow they announced a pill containing nanites that you could take and would no longer have to deal with the problems your ASD specifically caused for you, you wouldn't want it?
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Posted 5/31/17 , edited 5/31/17

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Ryulightorb wrote:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/31/president-donald-j-trump-proclaims-april-2-2017-world-autism-awareness

I only found this now since alot of Autistic communities are speaking about it and are very upset and mad for a good reason.

Seriously Trump go fuck yourself i mean sure if someone is severely disabled but for the most part alot of Autistic people are fine the way they are and taking a pro-cure stance is why Autism speaks is a known as a shitty thing.

Also a cure would involved brain surgery and rewiring the brain and you want to "intervene" and "Cure them" that's horrible forcing a "Cure" upon someone when they aren't old enough to decide such a decision.

The whole cure thing is just very offensive and by how its worded here it makes it sound like he wants to cure it and stop Autistic people from ever existing just because it is a disability disregarding anything good that comes out of it.

http://autisticadvocacy.org/2017/04/asan-condemns-white-house-autism-proclamation/
Atleast the ASAN has some form of intelligence on the matter.


Lets remove people from the gene pool because we see them as inferior because they suffer socially due to a developmental disorder oh smart.

This sort of thinking is dangerous we should be working on ways to make life easier for Autistic people then preventing it because despite what some people like to believe Autistic people existing is not actually a terrible thing.

of course this is all different from those on the lower end of the spectrum who do suffer and don't bring foward any benefits to society but just because of that one end that shouldn't mean prevention and curing of those who aren't old enough to decide.


So hypothetically, if tomorrow they announced a pill containing nanites that you could take and would no longer have to deal with the problems your ASD specifically caused for you, you wouldn't want it?


Yes that would also mean removing any benefits and rewiring the human brain changing who you are as a person and more or less deleting you as a person creating a new you.

I'm not sick i don't need a cure my neurology is different for better and worse.
Would i give up the good things i get from being Autistic just so i don't struggle socially anymore? fuck that.

Most Autistic people online who have been talking about a cure for years share the same views you can see it in many threats in autistic communities.
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As much as i hate it, autism does define a part of me, because in some ways its the reason for how i act or communicate in certain ways
Inb4 reeee -which is not what i meant by act
But just get overloaded sensory wise with stuff which sets off big anxiety with me, and when i get anxious i get frustratedly short tempered without meaning to, even in casual conversation
Soits part of personality , even if we hate it -or dont-
Despite its down sides i wouldnt cure it

I do want help with my ADD tho so i can actually watch my anime without my mind wandering so bad i dont see the screen. ..
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I don't see the problem. What is with these barely autistic people snarling at those that suggest a cure?



Also, Autism Speaks doesn't have a bad reputation for desiring a cure--they have a bad reputation because they make caregivers out to be the ones suffering the most.
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Reading this thread has made me want to see this "cure" spread to all those poor, unfortunate 88s. They may resist! They may fight against their needed medicine! In the end, the 88s will see the light and their salvations.
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I don't see the problem. What is with these barely autistic people snarling at those that suggest a cure?



Also, Autism Speaks doesn't have a bad reputation for desiring a cure--they have a bad reputation because they make caregivers out to be the ones suffering the most.


Are you referring to me...?
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Reading this thread has made me want to see this "cure" spread to all those poor, unfortunate 88s. They may resist! They may fight against their needed medicine! In the end, the 88s will see the light and their salvations.


Wtf are the 88s
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Are you referring to me...?


No, mostly referring to people like on the toxic as fuck "Asperger's" reddit that complain they can't get diagnosed and simultaneously complain they don't want a cure.

Those people are the ones doing the most shouting on the matter. They function well enough it cannot be seen as clinically significant to warrant a diagnosis, good for them, maybe they can fuck off. The Tumblr shenanigans is basically the types I'm referin' to.


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PrinceJudar wrote:

I don't see the problem. What is with these barely autistic people snarling at those that suggest a cure?



Also, Autism Speaks doesn't have a bad reputation for desiring a cure--they have a bad reputation because they make caregivers out to be the ones suffering the most.


Actually alot of people in Autistic communities online hate it for wanting a cure also Prince.
I don't want a cure to exist many others don't.

I'm fine with it if they don't force it on people or prevent Autistic people from being born but to do either of the two would be wrong.
History has shown now and again if such a cure exists they will make children take it.

You might be ok with the idea of forcing a cure on a child and preventing Autistic people from being born but alot of people are Against it especially me i mean if we are going to do that lets give people the right to choose what sex their child is and what properties they want their child to have while we are at it when that is possible.

Also a barely Autistic person's opinion on the matter is less valid imo then someone actually diagnoses and who is Autistic.
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PrinceJudar wrote:


redokami wrote:

Are you referring to me...?


No, mostly referring to people like on the toxic as fuck "Asperger's" reddit that complain they can't get diagnosed and simultaneously complain they don't want a cure.

Those people are the ones doing the most shouting on the matter. They function well enough it cannot be seen as clinically significant to warrant a diagnosis, good for them, maybe they can fuck off. The Tumblr shenanigans is basically the types I'm referin' to.





Never seen this reddit only Aspergers Reddit and Autism reddit's i have been on are not toxic at all quite the opposite also never really see people saying they can't get diagnoses and i'm on r/Aspergers alot that's fairly rare actually.

Not sure how long ago you were on there but it's nothing like that at all.
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Actually alot of people in Autistic communities online hate it for wanting a cure also Prince.
I don't want a cure to exist many others don't.

I'm fine with it if they don't force it on people or prevent Autistic people from being born but to do either of the two would be wrong.


I guess we shouldn't seek treatment or cures for many things, like personality disorders because #diversity banners.

People that are diagnosed with autism experience clinically significant impairment functioning within their daily lives. Not wanting a cure is purposely inflicting struggle upon other individuals because of the selfish desire for the type of person that may walk out of it. People are shouting against such a thing, not because it is logically warranted, but because they take offense to it--like it's an attack on their person. Autism became a silly stupid identity to some, instead of a disorder--which led to the modifications from DSM IV to V when clinicians deemed the previous criteria to be too loose, flimsy, and unspecific.

What that crowd refuses to understand is that our person is the sum of our experiences as well and autism is not who they are--simply a portion. They assume, that because they themselves benefit from autism, that others should suffer for it. Not everyone with autism is some quirky genius--it's a very small fraction of the population.

That population is disgustingly arrogant, claiming themselves to be the only uniqueness in the brain and making others out others to be some cookie cutter version of normalcy with disgusting pejoratives like "neurotypical".

I guess we shouldn't cure other mental disorders because of their unique modification upon the brain structure--right? That's how this works in their silly heads isn't it?

Apparently we should stop giving medicine out to those with ADHD too. We shouldn't altar their brain's functioning because that's #oppression




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Never seen this reddit only Aspergers Reddit and Autism reddit's i have been on are not toxic at all quite the opposite also never really see people saying they can't get diagnoses and i'm on r/Aspergers alot that's fairly rare actually.

Not sure how long ago you were on there but it's nothing like that at all.


I was referring to r/Aspergers and no it hasn't changed.
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