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This was just funny. The ISIS perspective..

https://www.duffelblog.com/2017/06/kathy-griffin-donald-trump-beheading/
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Shinosushi wrote:
That being said haven't seen the latest on this yet?


Last I saw the Secret Service had a chat with her and she had a woe is me press conference that didn't garner much sympathy.

Aside from being fired from CNN, something like 6 of her comedy shows have been cancelled as well. She seems to have ended what little career she had left.

I mean, I don't think she deserves all actual criminal harassment she's receiving, but at the same time I can't believe she didn't know how badly this would go over. Or that Trump would come after her. Going after people over even perceived slights is kind of Trump's thing. So something like this is Christmas and Easter all wrapped into one for him.

I'm not sure if she expected the "left" to come to her defense just because she was after Trump or what. But she badly miscalculated.

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She's receiving what she deserves. Her brain of hers had swelled up too much that she is being punished now. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other celebrities end up like her either since they think they are pretty much untouchable and should be worshiped.
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She deserves every bit of punishment she garners—not because it's Trump—because it's the President of the United States of America. It's different insulting a citizen, even if it borders on being a threat. This is something on a completely different level. People think you can issue a public apology and it fixes anything now. This one shouldn't go away with an apology.
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She's receiving what she deserves. Her brain of hers had swelled up too much that she is being punished now. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other celebrities end up like her either since they think they are pretty much untouchable and should be worshiped.


I sincerely doubt any other celebrity would do something this stupid. Well, maybe another D-list celebrity like Griffith. But certainly no one with a brain and a publicist. Or even just, like, one or two friends that could say "Hey, that's probably a stupid idea".

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I have been a fan of Kathy Griffin for many years, I think she is brilliant, and I'm not going to turn on her just because she made a mistake.

Over the years I have observed a lot of signs in Kathy Griffin's behaviour that are classic symptoms of hypomania or mania. I believe she has bipolar disorder, and either doesn't want to disclose it or isn't aware of it. Sometimes I have watched her in interviews and thought that she reminds me of what I am like when I'm hypomanic; I talk really fast, change topics frequently, and lose my verbal filter which means I will basically say whatever pops into my head. I can't control it. I notice that it is happening, but my thoughts are racing and I'm unable to calm them down. Most of the time it's fine; people just laugh at me and think I'm bizarre, just a bit kooky, but occasionally I say things that are not nice. You know how sometimes you can have a random thought and then immediately go, "Hang on, why did I just think that?!" Those are the kinds of thoughts that don't make it past your verbal filter, right? Well, when I am hypomanic, that verbal filter has disappeared.

People who are manic, or hypomanic to a borderline manic extent, are prone to making impulsive decisions, because they are no longer thinking clearly. The decisions will often be of a risky nature, such as gambling away huge sums of money, making an ill-informed investment that may lead to bankruptcy, quitting your job out of nowhere because you believe you are going to win the lottery or make a fortune on some great scheme you are involved in, or maybe become famous by selling your art, which you, in your manic state, believe to be completely brilliant.

Anything can trigger a bipolar mood episode, especially mania. Something life-altering, shocking, frightening, etc. An occurrence that leaves you feeling shaken up, and changes the chemical balance in your brain, thus leading to an elevated state. When Trump was elected president, that could very well have been the thing that shocked and upset Kathy Griffin enough to trigger a manic or hypomanic episode, and when you are in the midst of an episode like that you have lost the ability to think rationally. You lose that part of you that carries the ability to self-reflect and think about things critically before you act. When Kathy posed for those pictures, she did so because she wanted to send a message, to provoke those who worship this obviously deranged president, but she wasn't able to see that these pictures would actually offend people on both sides. She thought she was making a brilliant, artistic statement, because in her state of mind she felt like she was on some kind of creative roll; basically, she was at the peak of her manic episode. She made a really big mistake. And when that happens, the manic person's mood will inevitably crash and lead to depression. As a result of the mistake she made, Kathy Griffin has had a breakdown.

This was out of character for Kathy. I have never seen her do anything like this before. She is a comedian, not a provocative artist, and I was really surprised when I saw the picture. It wasn't a joke, it was a severe, political statement, which is not what Kathy Griffin usually does. She makes controversial jokes, and mocks people because she wants to piss them off, but that's as far as it goes. She doesn't pose for pictures whilst holding a severed head covered in blood. I don't think she could see clearly what she was doing at all, even if she was caught on tape talking about it. I don't believe she realised the full extent of it.

We don't know for sure what is going on in Kathy Griffin's life. Obviously my assessment of her, and my theory, could be completely wrong, because I clearly don't know her. None of us do. However, what we do know is that she hasn't actually done anything criminal, she has no history of violent behaviour, and she has apologised for what she did. She is clearly not a dangerous person. She's not hugely influential either, compared to a lot of other people, and she's not in a position to cause much harm. Do you know who is, though? Yeah, Donald Trump, the f-ing president of the United States. The most powerful man in the world. That guy. That guy who has been caught lying more times than anyone can count, who is alienating important US allies, colluding with Russians, destroying the US and posing a threat to the rest of the world. He is scary. He needs to be removed from office. The man is mentally unstable.

Also, have we forgotten about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ueblGL5b4 ??

I have a lot of compassion and empathy for Kathy Griffin. I have absolutely no compassion for Donald Trump.
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I honestly don't like the way this is going. Maybe it's because I hold the Left to a higher standard because a lot of my beliefs are progressive. However, a lot of the left seem to be under the impression that it is ALRIGHT to harass or threaten anyone as long as their political views oppose yours. Now before you yell at me that the right does it, that doesn't make it alright. It's wrong and dangerous regardless of who does it. In these situations though, you are pretty much just having a childish prank war. What you want to do is to take the high road and find a way toward progression. Fight anger with kindness, not with more anger.

I am happy that Kathy Griffin is getting so much backlash precisely because it is Trump. Trump is pretty much free reign as far as mocking him goes, however, her getting backlash for this shows that there is a limit to what you should do, no matter WHO you do it to.

Posted 6/5/17

Ingelinn wrote:

When Trump was elected president, that could very well have been the thing that shocked and upset Kathy Griffin enough to trigger a manic or hypomanic episode, and when you are in the midst of an episode like that you have lost the ability to think rationally. .


So what you're saying is, anti Trump people are mentally ill?

Kathy is done, she's broken. Find a new 'celebrity' to be a fan of.

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This was out of character for Kathy. I have never seen her do anything like this before. She is a comedian, not a provocative artist, and I was really surprised when I saw the picture. It wasn't a joke, it was a severe, political statement, which is not what Kathy Griffin usually does. She makes controversial jokes, and mocks people because she wants to piss them off, but that's as far as it goes. She doesn't pose for pictures whilst holding a severed head covered in blood. I don't think she could see clearly what she was doing at all, even if she was caught on tape talking about it. I don't believe she realised the full extent of it.


Really? You could make an honest argument that most of her career has been a string of bad judgement calls in regards to trying to be "funny". Plus, this is basically all the photographer in question does. Kathy has worked with him before. She knows full well the sort of stuff he does and that he tries to provoke/shock people with his work. I mean, she's posed nude for this guy before.

Her sense of humour in regards to what is or is not acceptable has been poorly calibrated for the better part of a decade. And yes, she has made off colour political statements before.

Now, does she have mental health issues? Probably. Many comedians do. Is this really that out of character for her? Not entirely, no.





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Her apology video, she basically said she's a victim of women's oppression in the States.
What kind of bs is that?
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Word for the day: Beheaded

Kathy be headed to the unemployment office.
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Ironically it would be funny if she was a member of GWAR, then it would be completely normal
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I love the cleverness of the photo of Kathy cutting off her own head. I just wonder how true it is? I mean, you would think something this vulgar and hateful would end her career, but I can't help but think it's going to increase her standing with a lot of people in New York and Hollywood.
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Ironically it would be funny if she was a member of GWAR, then it would be completely normal


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I love the cleverness of the photo of Kathy cutting off her own head. I just wonder how true it is? I mean, you would think something this vulgar and hateful would end her career, but I can't help but think it's going to increase her standing with a lot of people in New York and Hollywood.


She is losing gigs left and right. Even if there are lots of libs in those places do they want a woman doing ISIS poses being their face?
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