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Posted 6/1/17 , edited 6/5/17

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What assessment? They didn't look at the DNC systems and said "yup, its the Russians". It's like you coming to me with a computer problem and I don't bother to look at it then just say "well it needs a format good luck".


The assessments you were so kind to post images of but apparently don't accept.


Theres no proof anywhere in there. Just assumptions. If they had proof they would be parading it around and sharing it everywhere.
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Did you miss this part?


FBI agents, under Comey, instructed one of the terrorists to 'tear up texas'


Apparently, since a 2017 60 minutes report isn't going to be mentioned in articles from 2013 and 2015.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/terrorism-in-garland-texas-what-the-fbi-knew-before-the-2015-attack/

Which basically looks like a failure on the FBI's part to access when those guys would actually act. How sinister.


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Theres no proof anywhere in there. Just assumptions. If they had proof they would be parading it around and sharing it everywhere.


That's not how classified intel works, at all. Unless you give it to Trump.
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Which basically looks like a failure on the FBI's part to access when those guys would actually act. How sinister.


So you're fine with FBI agents instructing and encouraging terrorists to commit terror attacks?

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Posted 6/1/17 , edited 6/5/17

qwueri wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Did you miss this part?


FBI agents, under Comey, instructed one of the terrorists to 'tear up texas'


Apparently, since a 2017 60 minutes report isn't going to be mentioned in articles from 2013 and 2015.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/terrorism-in-garland-texas-what-the-fbi-knew-before-the-2015-attack/

Which basically looks like a failure on the FBI's part to access when those guys would actually act. How sinister.


Rujikin wrote:

Theres no proof anywhere in there. Just assumptions. If they had proof they would be parading it around and sharing it everywhere.


That's not how classified intel works, at all. Unless you give it to Trump.


Election fraud is not a classified matter it is a public matter and should be addressed as so. It affects the republic as a whole and if you are hiding it then you are damaging the republic. If they had info they would release the info or else the FBI is trying to affect the elections in the same way they are accusing the Russians of it.
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Posted 6/1/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:

So you're fine with FBI agents instructing and encouraging terrorists to commit terror attacks?



I'm fine with the FBI setting up stings for potential terrorists. Less fine with them botching the job, but I don't see how that's supposed to back up your claim that the investigation into Russian involvement in the election is a hoax.


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Election fraud is not a classified matter it is a public matter and should be addressed as so. It affects the republic as a whole and if you are hiding it then you are damaging the republic. If they had info they would release the info or else the FBI is trying to affect the elections in the same way they are accusing the Russians of it.


When you have a foreign power spear fishing staff of a candidate it's a bit more than election fraud.
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Posted 6/1/17 , edited 6/5/17

qwueri wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

So you're fine with FBI agents instructing and encouraging terrorists to commit terror attacks?



I'm fine with the FBI setting up stings for potential terrorists. Less fine with them botching the job, but I don't see how that's supposed to back up your claim that the investigation into Russian involvement in the election is a hoax.


Rujikin wrote:

Election fraud is not a classified matter it is a public matter and should be addressed as so. It affects the republic as a whole and if you are hiding it then you are damaging the republic. If they had info they would release the info or else the FBI is trying to affect the elections in the same way they are accusing the Russians of it.


When you have a foreign power spear fishing staff of a candidate it's a bit more than election fraud.


I can say with 90% certainty that all our politicians are being spear phished by Nigerian scammers or lottery scam artists every year, unless they still don't have an e-mail which is unlikely. Do we accuse Nigeria of manipulating our elections?
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I'm fine with the FBI setting up stings for potential terrorists. Less fine with them botching the job, but I don't see how that's supposed to back up your claim that the investigation into Russian involvement in the election is a hoax.

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So how do you know they didn't instruct Omar Mateen to do what he did? He was on a watchlist. Or the San Bernadino terrorists?

It backs my claim that you shouldn't trust people who call themselves 'spooks' and instruct terrorists to kill Americans and who knows who else. Maybe they instructed the Manchester bomber too, we don't know.
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I can say with 90% certainty that all our politicians are being spear phished by Nigerian scammers or lottery scam artists every year, unless they still don't have an e-mail which is unlikely. Do we accuse Nigeria of manipulating our elections?


Last I checked, Nigerians weren't handing stolen information to wikileaks.


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So how do you know they didn't instruct Omar Mateen to do what he did? He was on a watchlist. Or the San Bernadino terrorists?

It backs my claim that you shouldn't trust people who call themselves 'spooks' and instruct terrorists to kill Americans and who knows who else. Maybe they instructed the Manchester bomber too, we don't know.


I could imagine all sorts of spooky scenarios, but that suggests a huge failure of oversight of multiple persons and committees.
https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/who-monitors-or-oversees-the-fbi

The FBI’s activities are closely and regularly scrutinized by a variety of entities. Congress—through several oversight committees in the Senate and House—reviews the FBI’s budget appropriations, programs, and selected investigations. The results of FBI investigations are often reviewed by the judicial system during court proceedings. Within the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI is responsible to the attorney general, and it reports its findings to U.S. Attorneys across the country. The FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence.


There's also zero benefit for the FBI to actively encourage a terrorist and fail to stop them, while there's considerable consequence. Every time a terrorist event happens on US soil, there's review of how and why it happened. Every time the FBI is found to be connected to even be watching the perpetrator and failed to pick up that what they're planning, it's a big loss of face in public confidence.
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I think one thing that feeds into her delusion is the secret service protection for Bill. It makes her feel important.
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