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Post Reply Telling women not to drink during pregnancy 'sexist'
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Maybe the kids born with health problems due to their mother being a drinker should just sue the bitch for not caring about them.
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I would not drink. You want to protect your baby and reduce the possible birth defects that it would cause. No drugs, no alcohol. I rather be safe than sorry.
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“Public discourse has become very hostile and there is now an assumption that a pregnant woman holding a glass of wine is doing something absolutely wrong,” she said.



Accurate data on the the effects of moderate alcohol consumption during pregnancy is almost impossible to achieve because it would be unethical to initiate wide-scale studies which compared the outcomes for children of drinkers to those of non-drinkers.


Just so I follow here. A woman drinking while pregnant should not be treated like she is doing something wrong but we can't tell you how not wrong it is because the very act of trying to gather evidence to support our argument would be wrong.

Alright then.
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It is sexist in the sense that it is only applicable to women to tell them that they should not drink during pregnancy, and never to men.

But that's a poor standard to use in calling something sexist.

If you drink while you are pregnant, you are risking your child having actual problems that will follow them for the rest of their life. If you do not have the willpower to avoid drinking for a few months, you should NOT BE HAVING A CHILD.

Of course, I'm of the opinion that people who are so irresponsible shouldn't be allowed to have children in the first place. Unfortunately, we live in a society where the right of a mother to have a child, no matter how much they are incapable of raising them (or even if they cause them physical and mental deformities due to drinking or doing drugs during pregnancy), is valued over the right of a child to live a good life.

Such is the way of things.
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Posted 6/3/17
I imagine the people who are arguing about how drinking while pregnant is sexist are probably alcohol or crack babies.

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Who's arguing It's stupid to do it everyone knows. These people just want an excuse to do whatever they fucking want.
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Laura_Bodewig wrote:

This is almost as bad as the plot of the Boruto filler. Almost.


Uh, almost as bad as Boruto in general to be honest >_>.

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A couple things; 1) I don't think advising women that the occasional drink is ok until you really understand just how much it effects development without doubt. 2) This is the UK from what I can tell? Not that it justifies it but drinking in general isn't stigmatized as much as it is in the States (Been to Britain 2 times). As a result it is seen as a much more acceptable thing to do. 3) If you as a Husband and/or close friends are drinking a lot while your wife is pregnant to the point where she feels anxious and excluded then you might be a shitty husband / close friend.
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As long as I don't have to pay her deformed and broken children's medical bills she could shoot up Drano for all I care.
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dichologos wrote:

It is sexist in the sense that it is only applicable to women to tell them that they should not drink during pregnancy, and never to men.


Not trying to start an argument, just stating my opinion here: I don't actually agree with this sentence. Pregnancy is a woman-only thing t and drinking a lot, smoking, etc during pregnancy is clearly bad for the child. Being told not to do so is being considerate, not sexist. It's also common sense...

Anything that relates to only women shouldn't be called sexist. People need to stop being so weak. My grandparents never had any of these sexist, lgbt, hurt feelings, etc problems and lived happy lives. Grow a pair! (well, i'd rather women not... wouldn't be a nice sight haha!)
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have we really become stupid as a society,we are supossed to evolve and grow better as time goes on and not be stupid and backtrack as a society
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The people on this planet are getting stupider.
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dichologos wrote:

It is sexist in the sense that it is only applicable to women to tell them that they should not drink during pregnancy, and never to men.


I think it's fair to say the man should not drink when the spouse is pregnant.
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spinhookmaster wrote:

have we really become stupid as a society,we are supossed to evolve and grow better as time goes on and not be stupid and backtrack as a society


Yeah thanks America.... thanks political correctness...thanks universities for making kids who are "highly educated" actually stupid as fuck and making them forget about common sense and logic and reality.
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Should I be surprised at this news? I lost faith in humanity long ago, and now just laugh at the stupidity we continuously spew out.
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I know someone who's mom drank during pregnancy this guy -> Henry Bodkin

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/17/telling-women-not-drink-pregnancy-sexist/



Advising women not to drink when pregnant is “sexist” and causes “needless anxiety”, senior academics have said.

Pregnancy charities and researchers have called for a change to the “alarmist” official Government guidelines, which warn expectant mothers to avoid alcohol completely.

They say the policy has no basis in evidence and ends up “stigmatising” women and excluding them from society.

Studies have shown that consistent heavy drinking during pregnancy can result in foetal alcohol syndrome, which can cause physical developmental and learning difficulties.
"Women are being accosted, spoken to and started at in public"Dr Ellie Lee, University of Kent

However, there is not robust evidence that light to moderate drinking, or even one-off episodes of binge drinking, causes any long-term damage.

Experts at the University of Kent and the British Pregnancy Advisory Service (BPAS) are claiming that public policy towards pregnant women has “gone down an overtly precautionary route” and that the Government “needs to be honest” about the evidence.

But last night professional bodies defended the current position.

Last year the Chief Medical Officer, Dame Sally Davies, was accused of scaremongering when she issued updated formal advice on alcohol consumption for all adults, reducing the recommended weekly intake from 21 to 14 units for men, and advising pregnant women not to touch alcohol at all.

The previous guidelines had expecting women not avoid alcohol but noted that if they did choose to drink, they could not consume more than 2 units once or twice a week.

Dr Ellie Lee, Director of the Centre of Parenting Culture Studies at the University of Kent, said the “exclusion of women from an ordinary activity on the basis of a precaution” was “sexist”.

“Public discourse has become very hostile and there is now an assumption that a pregnant woman holding a glass of wine is doing something absolutely wrong,” she said.

“Women are being accosted, spoken to and started at in public.

“People assume that just because you have had one drink you’ve had a bottle of vodka for breakfast.”

She said it was impossible to establish the safe level of exposure to alcohol during pregnancy.

BPAS is also campaigning for a change in the tone of the advice on the basis that it may be needlessly scaring women into aborting pregnancies because of fears that a few heavy nights out will have caused the foetus serious harm.



Alcohol denatures your DNA. Whats sexist about that? You want a baby's DNA to partially unravel during gestation because it's sexist? WTF? As I biochemist I find this highly ignorant. Granted the coefficient of activity is low at standard body temperature, however there is high enough alpha constant to drive some reactions to the right! What the hell are these people thinking? Why don't they ask a biochemist instead of sociologist? Dammit! We are getting more stupid!
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