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Telling women not to drink during pregnancy 'sexist'
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That is BS and alcohol can easily give babies cancer. Aside from alcohol, no one must ever eat fish (except for catfish or tilapia) during pregnancy, because of mercury and heavy metals can give babies autism or death.
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Well *tableflips* this is why everyone thinks all feminist are feminazis and wouldn't take those issues seriously.

I sure hope no future mother in the right mind would actually drink while pregnant. Think of your baby.
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Steelmonk wrote:

Alcohol denatures your DNA. Whats sexist about that? You want a baby's DNA to partially unravel during gestation because it's sexist? WTF? As I biochemist I find this highly ignorant. Granted the coefficient of activity is low at standard body temperature, however there is high enough alpha constant to drive some reactions to the right! What the hell are these people thinking? Why don't they ask a biochemist instead of sociologist? Dammit! We are getting more stupid!


Yeah we are... Hopefully bringing this shit to light will prevent people from going to the stupid side.
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mxdan wrote:


Laura_Bodewig wrote:

This is almost as bad as the plot of the Boruto filler. Almost.


Uh, almost as bad as Boruto in general to be honest >_>.


Yeah, all the Anime stuff is apparently filler atm? I don't know, it's pretty garbage tho.
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about the contenders for the darwin awards. -.-
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mxdan wrote:


Laura_Bodewig wrote:

This is almost as bad as the plot of the Boruto filler. Almost.


Uh, almost as bad as Boruto in general to be honest >_>.

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A couple things; 1) I don't think advising women that the occasional drink is ok until you really understand just how much it effects development without doubt. 2) This is the UK from what I can tell? Not that it justifies it but drinking in general isn't stigmatized as much as it is in the States (Been to Britain 2 times). As a result it is seen as a much more acceptable thing to do. 3) If you as a Husband and/or close friends are drinking a lot while your wife is pregnant to the point where she feels anxious and excluded then you might be a shitty husband / close friend.



I live in the UK and if you don't drink alcohol everyday your looked on as some kind of weirdo. Drinking during pregnancy is still looked down on though even if everyone is smashed every night. And, of course, every weekend you have to binge-drink till 4am.
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It is sexist in the sense that it is only applicable to women to tell them that they should not drink during pregnancy, and never to men.


Not trying to start an argument, just stating my opinion here: I don't actually agree with this sentence. Pregnancy is a woman-only thing t and drinking a lot, smoking, etc during pregnancy is clearly bad for the child. Being told not to do so is being considerate, not sexist. It's also common sense...

Anything that relates to only women shouldn't be called sexist. People need to stop being so weak. My grandparents never had any of these sexist, lgbt, hurt feelings, etc problems and lived happy lives. Grow a pair! (well, i'd rather women not... wouldn't be a nice sight haha!)


Saying that being told something like that is "considerate" rather than "sexist" is the same logic people who think that women should only be baby-raising machines for their own good and because that is what they good at use. Or people who also have the sexist view that men should just be expendable protectors, and that it's okay for men to be hurt or damaged if that means protecting weak women.

Since that entire line however was used specifically to frame the rest of my statement, it seems very odd for you to pick it out in particular. Like, it has next to no connection of the rest of what I said, which is the bulk of my argument.

It boils down to semantics, whether you call something "sexist" or not, in other words, much of the time. What is really relevant is whether or not we wish to favor the rights of a pregnant woman to drink and not be shamed for doing so, over that of a developing child that the mother has no intention of aborting. What matters is whether being "technically sexist" is the lesser evil over, say, making it acceptable to give a person permanent mental and physical problems for their entire life and do nothing.

If anything, a mother who drinks during a pregnancy and who has a child who then has a problem because of it should be thrown in prison, as far as I'm concerned. It's no different if your kid has brain damage due to you being irresponsible during pregnancy than if you simply bashed them in the head and abused them once they were born and gave them the same kinds of disabilities.

The latter is illegal, but the former is somehow "sexist" according to some people apparently? So what if it is sexist, in a technical sense?

Sexism when regarding something that literally only affects women, and not men, isn't sexism in any relevant sense. Sexism that matters is sexism regarding things that are "not" different between men and women, or differ more between individuals. If someone says that a woman shouldn't be allowed to do any kind of job a man can do that they are capable of doing, for example, then that is sexist. If someone says that a woman who is capable of bearing a child shouldn't be allowed to poison their own child however, that is not really sexist, though some people could argue that it is technically sexism.
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