Post Reply Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen cut diplomatic ties with Qatar
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40155829

This one's still unfolding.

The TL;DR seems to be that Qatar's state news agency's website was hacked and a fake story about comments their leader made in favour of Iran, etc was posted. The story was taken down, but news agencies in Saudi Arabia ran with it anyway even after the retraction. The Saudi's appear to be using it as an excuse to pull something on Qatar ( there's lots of unpleasant history there ). Other countries followed the Saudi's lead for political or economic reasons.

Putting aside the blatant hypocrisy of Saudi Arabia accusing anyone else of supporting terrorism...

Why this matters:

Qatar is home to America's CENTCOM for the entire middle east and Trump has business ties in Qatar.

Trump approached his Middle East trip by focusing on Saudi Arabia and the UAE instead of dealing with the Gulf Cooperation Council as a whole. There's a real possibility that as a result the Saudi's think they can manipulate Trump here and possibly even get him to move the US's central military operations out of Qatar to Saudi Arabia. Where the Saudi's can keep it under heel.

Furthermore, this is the first international incident that may pit Trump's personal interests against the US's political aims.




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Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
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My look when Saudi Arabia accuses another country of supporting terrorism
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Interesting. I'm curious about the source of the hack, as that could add a whole another dimension to the story. I'm no fan of Qatar or Trump, but just from eyeballing it, it looks like they're getting screwed by the Saudis.
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Qatarstrophe


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Mishio1 wrote:
Interesting. I'm curious about the source of the hack, as that could add a whole another dimension to the story. I'm no fan of Qatar or Trump, but just from eyeballing it, it looks like they're getting screwed by the Saudis.


It does look like a co-ordinated effort. Which, yeah, raises questions about the source of the hack as well.

It also makes for a possible diplomatic trap. The average westerner isn't familiar with history and grievances involved. Trump even less so. Unless you lived in the region chances are you don't know what the full picture here is. If any significant external powers decide to take sides it'll get uglier.



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Annnd now it's looking like the Russians may be involved in this one too.

Wonderful.
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runec wrote:

Annnd now it's looking like the Russians may be involved in this one too.

Wonderful.


Of course the boogie....ahem, Russians are behind this one too. I'm sure we have all kinds of evidence too, or at least plenty of rumors and unsubstantiated reports from unnamed sources.
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Of course the boogie....ahem, Russians are behind this one too. I'm sure we have all kinds of evidence too, or at least plenty of rumors and unsubstantiated reports from unnamed sources.


It's coming from Qatar's foreign minister who is referencing the FBI team you sent in May to investigate. Sure, he could be lying his arse off, but it's not an unnamed source and I would expect the FBI to correct him immediately if that was the case. Otherwise they're allowing a foreign country to control the narrative. Trump likes to do that for some reason but I would hope the FBI is smarter than that.

Again, America's middle eastern CENTCOM is stationed in Qatar. Regardless of what Orange Julius thinks, it's of pretty key strategic importance to the US. Your president has aligned himself against the country hosting his own military central command. Think about that for a moment. There's a reason Mattis and Tillerson are trying to downplay this rather than ramp it up like Glorious Leader.

As for "boogiemen", exactly how many intelligence agencies do you need confirming Russia interference before you listen to them instead of a subreddit? Because the current total so far is "all of them". -.-

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