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Post Reply Anti-Trump protesters are facing up to 80 years in jail
Posted 6/5/17
Speaking of antifa...
Remember that bike lock guy? Looks like they turned on him

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Posted 6/5/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Speaking of antifa...
Remember that bike lock guy? Looks like they turned on him



Good. The quicker Anti-Fa devours its own the sooner the whole movement dies. I don't want Anti-Fa staying around like the KKK has.
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Posted 6/5/17

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Also LMFAO do you really think a judge is going to sentence people to even ten years of prison for rioting?


destroying property, attacking people.. I bet they at least get 20 years... min.


Mostly it tends to end in fines not jail time if you have a good attorney which most of them do by now. Look to older cases to see how this one will play out. And hope the city doesn't run into some of the problems other cities run into when doing these types of arrests violation of 4th amendment rights and such. I suspect that most of them are up on the first offense which means it tends towards a slap on the wrist community service time severed and a fine.

Also I thought you right wingers would be fan of these guys since they are against Fascism which you keep screaming the left is committing or is it just when we are facing a real fascist you ignore the reality you are facing? Trump is a fascist by the very definition of the word.
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Posted 6/5/17

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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


KennethKenstar wrote:

Also LMFAO do you really think a judge is going to sentence people to even ten years of prison for rioting?


destroying property, attacking people.. I bet they at least get 20 years... min.


Mostly it tends to end in fines not jail time if you have a good attorney which most of them do by now. Look to older cases to see how this one will play out. And hope the city doesn't run into some of the problems other cities run into when doing these types of arrests violation of 4th amendment rights and such. I suspect that most of them are up on the first offense which means it tends towards a slap on the wrist community service time severed and a fine.

Also I thought you right wingers would be fan of these guys since they are against Fascism which you keep screaming the left is committing or is it just when we are facing a real fascist you ignore the reality you are facing? Trump is a fascist by the very definition of the word.


We dont support fascists or browncoats, oh wait now they are black masks. Why would we support anti-fa trying to shut down free speech and attacking opponents using the same tactics as the browncoats?
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Posted 6/6/17
peaceful protest is always better then a riot yeesh
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Posted 6/6/17
Folks, I deleted a couple of Kenstar's posts, as well as a few others that were just part of the "bet" derailment.

This might result in a few posts being out of order for a little bit. Sorry.
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Posted 6/6/17

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Today in "It's only Free Speech if I agree with it".

Also, these arrests were so on the up and up that DC's board of police complaints is calling for an independent investigation into the MPD's conduct. Here is their report on the matter:

https://www.scribd.com/document/340539617/Inaguration-Protest-Monitoring-Report-FINAL#from_embed


its not free speech when you start being violent towards people, and start destroying property,


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To be honest, I'm just tired of both sides being idiots. If you find it necessary to hurt people or break property, whether you're Republican or Democrat - you should be utterly ashamed. They're making me afraid to

a) have a political opinion or
b) say I have pretty "liberal" opinions because I don't want to be associated with this violence.
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Posted 6/6/17
They should consider themselves lucky. In the wrong state, their behavior couldve gotten them killed attacking the wrong person with a concealed carry permit.
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Posted 6/6/17

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They should consider themselves lucky. In the wrong state, their behavior couldve gotten them killed attacking the wrong person with a concealed carry permit.


Old laws designed to stop the KKK from being held liable for attacks were used against antifa in auburn: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ZvhQfv1aE

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Posted 6/7/17
I would say that probably only happen in North Korea if they're protesting against North Korea President Kim!

But in America?! NEVER! The worse thing they can get is slap on the wrist and that it!
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Posted 6/6/17
braking news George Soros might be banned from America soon.. Also leaker caught red handed named Winner is going to jail for NSA leaks.
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braking news George Soros might be banned from America soon.. Also leaker caught red handed named Winner is going to jail for NSA leaks.


I hope so. He's already banned in Russia and his home country of Hungary for election manipulation.
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Row! Row! Fight the Trump!
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Reality Winner. Right. Her attorney is Tit Tom.

Not seeing Soros getting deported, exiled, or banned though.
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Posted 6/6/17 , edited 6/6/17
Well, 80 years sounds like a lot, but once you add up all the shit they did while rioting it's not that surprising. That's what happens when the justice system cracks down hard; they aren't willing to give you a break if you're repeatedly causing problems. I wonder how much of that time the ones who refused to plead guilty will get? Also, how much time are the ones who cooperated and pleaded guilty getting? Maybe this harsher sentencing will dissuade future ANTIFA violence, but that's probably just wishful thinking.
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Posted 6/7/17

dragontackle wrote:

They should consider themselves lucky. In the wrong state, their behavior couldve gotten them killed attacking the wrong person with a concealed carry permit.


Yeap, those clowns don't play games here.

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Posted 6/6/17

runec wrote:

Today in "It's only Free Speech if I agree with it".

Also, these arrests were so on the up and up that DC's board of police complaints is calling for an independent investigation into the MPD's conduct. Here is their report on the matter:

https://www.scribd.com/document/340539617/Inaguration-Protest-Monitoring-Report-FINAL#from_embed



redokami wrote:


runec wrote:

Today in "It's only Free Speech if I agree with it".

Also, these arrests were so on the up and up that DC's board of police complaints is calling for an independent investigation into the MPD's conduct. Here is their report on the matter:

https://www.scribd.com/document/340539617/Inaguration-Protest-Monitoring-Report-FINAL#from_embed


its not free speech when you start being violent towards people, and start destroying property,

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Posted 6/6/17
Hope they do, but doubtful they'll get that long.
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I think it would do you well to read the report that you quoted: here. It outlines what all the Metropolitan Police Department (Washington DC's PD) observed and how they believe an outside investigation should be taken to determine if all the actions taken by the MPD and by the protesters were within their rights. Too many people are quick to jump into the narrative that everyone that was protesting against the Inauguration was running around destroying property, cars, and blowing up things. Not to say that some damage had not happened, just that it was the minority of those that were there protesting (as many, even by the MPD's own statements, were peacefully protesting and not causing any issues).
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KennethKenstar wrote:

I can't wait for the meltdown you are going to have when Trump gets kicked out of office or he just resigns.



Nothing can be more entertaining and salty than the meltdown you guys have been having since he got elected, though.

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Okay two problems first free speech as you claim is not absolute you don't get to say what ever you want. No really step outside your front door and start shouting some of the ting that you have been saying here and when the cops so up to tell you to shut up try some of the bullshit arguments you give here. Second problems the free speech you claim to be supporting is hate speech used by Brownshirt's hate mongers, and the like to incite their base and pump them up so they will do things like what happened in Portland the other day with the stabbing.

Browncoats are the rebels in Firefly Brownshirts or Blackshirts are the fascist base the Hitler and Mussolini used to rise to power. The fascist would now be Redhats and apparently they don't see themselves as such this is normal, I will post the signs of Fascism here again so you can actually see. I will highlight the ones that are currently being used by the right and the fascist oh one more thing fascism isn't a left thing it has always been a conservative movement not a liberal one.

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.


5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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