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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-climate-agreement-tech-giants-apple-amazon-google-cities-states/


Some of the biggest names in technology — from Apple to Amazon, Google, Lyft and Spotify — have jumped on board the growing movement of businesses and civic organizations committed to honoring the Paris Agreement on climate change, regardless of the U.S. government's lack of support. The announcement comes days after President Trump announced his decision to withdraw from the landmark deal signed by 195 nations.

"In the absence of leadership from Washington, states, cities, colleges and universities and businesses representing a sizeable percentage of the U.S. economy will pursue ambitious climate goals, working together to take forceful action and to ensure that the U.S. remains a global leader in reducing emissions," the coalition, which now consists of more than 1,000 cities, counties, states, universities and businesses, said in a statement released Monday.

Going by the name "We Are Still In," the coalition called itself "the broadest cross section of the American economy yet assembled in pursuit of climate action." It includes states like New York and California and more than a dozen Fortune 500 companies.

The effort is led by philanthropist and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.


Faith in humanity... Rising a little bit?

That can't be right.

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mxdan wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-climate-agreement-tech-giants-apple-amazon-google-cities-states/


Some of the biggest names in technology — from Apple to Amazon, Google, Lyft and Spotify — have jumped on board the growing movement of businesses and civic organizations committed to honoring the Paris Agreement on climate change, regardless of the U.S. government's lack of support. The announcement comes days after President McDuck announced his decision to withdraw from the landmark deal signed by 195 nations.

"In the absence of leadership from Washington, states, cities, colleges and universities and businesses representing a sizeable percentage of the U.S. economy will pursue ambitious climate goals, working together to take forceful action and to ensure that the U.S. remains a global leader in reducing emissions," the coalition, which now consists of more than 1,000 cities, counties, states, universities and businesses, said in a statement released Monday.

Going by the name "We Are Still In," the coalition called itself "the broadest cross section of the American economy yet assembled in pursuit of climate action." It includes states like New York and California and more than a dozen Fortune 500 companies.

The effort is led by philanthropist and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg.


Faith in humanity... Rising a little bit?

That can't be right.



Let's hope.
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Big middle finger to Trump. We'll do this with or without you. It's just beautiful.
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This makes me happy. I agree! Faith in humanity (USA) restored a bit. Even North Korea is in the Paris Climate Agreement.
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these tech giants care about climate change Apple ? instead of coming out with a new phone every year.. how about every 5-10 years ?

you need electric vehicle to fight against climate change? do you know how they make those batteries? electricity ?etc/

there are simpler changes that people can make without having force it down other people's throat

- drive less-- walk, using bicycle, motorcycle, carpool, bus, etc.. i work from home so i only need to refill my car every 4-5 weeks! and i either run or use a bicycle for places that are within 1-4 miles of my house.

- spend less -- do you really need new clothes, purse, shoes, etc..so often when the ones you have are still usable ? etc.. i'm still wearing the same t-shirts and shorts that i keep patching up every time there's a hole

-recycle-- recycle what you can recycle and start a compost pile in your backyard-- plant more trees (if space is available). etc..

- reduce food waste -- 40% of foods grow in the US are wasted before reaching the market and then people also throw away food that they couldn't finish on time.

etc.....

i'm sure there are other things you can do to help the planet..

it's always hilarious to see hypocrites going around claiming they are doing their parts in saving the planet while those same people are either online 24/7, using the latest phones, shoes, clothes, purses, etc. they consume and waste more than a typical person


consuming less and reduce waste[/b] will help more than putting up a face like you are some advocates of the public while in reality you are the worst offender

this is like those politicians who are advocates for children against child predators but turned out to be one of the worst child predators themselves

so why don't you do your part in helping the planet instead of pretending to be...

my faith in humanity is the same-- i'll just continue to do my part while both sides continue to yap on endlessly
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these tech giants care about climate change Apple ? instead of coming out with a new phone every year.. how about every 5-10 years ?



Pfffft. What are you, crazy? That's like telling Al Gore and Leo Cappucino to stop flying in private jets to go receive awards for their activism. It's like, total climate denial. Sacrifices are for the little people. The priests of Gaia are too important; they get a pass.
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It's like, total climate denial.


Remember when it used to be called Global Warming?

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Remember when it used to be called Global Warming?



And before that, it was called Global Cooling. Beware the coming Ice Age. I want to be a climatologist so that like a meteorologist I can always be wrong, but only the whole world cowers in fear an caters to my whim lest they burst into flames or turn into icicles. It's like being Storm from the X-Men
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This could either go amazingly or fall right on its face...
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dulun18 wrote:

these tech giants care about climate change Apple ? instead of coming out with a new phone every year.. how about every 5-10 years ?

you need electric vehicle to fight against climate change? do you know how they make those batteries? electricity ?etc/

there are simpler changes that people can make without having force it down other people's throat

- drive less-- walk, using bicycle, motorcycle, carpool, bus, etc.. i work from home so i only need to refill my car every 4-5 weeks! and i either run or use a bicycle for places that are within 1-4 miles of my house.

- spend less -- do you really need new clothes, purse, shoes, etc..so often when the ones you have are still usable ? etc.. i'm still wearing the same t-shirts and shorts that i keep patching up every time there's a hole

-recycle-- recycle what you can recycle and start a compost pile in your backyard-- plant more trees (if space is available). etc..

- reduce food waste -- 40% of foods grow in the US are wasted before reaching the market and then people also throw away food that they couldn't finish on time.

etc.....

i'm sure there are other things you can do to help the planet..

it's always hilarious to see hypocrites going around claiming they are doing their parts in saving the planet while those same people are either online 24/7, using the latest phones, shoes, clothes, purses, etc. they consume and waste more than a typical person


consuming less and reduce waste[/b] will help more than putting up a face like you are some advocates of the public while in reality you are the worst offender

this is like those politicians who are advocates for children against child predators but turned out to be one of the worst child predators themselves

so why don't you do your part in helping the planet instead of pretending to be...

my faith in humanity is the same-- i'll just continue to do my part while both sides continue to yap on endlessly


^^^
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dulun18 wrote:

these tech giants care about climate change Apple ? instead of coming out with a new phone every year.. how about every 5-10 years ?


While of course individuals should make efforts to bear their effect on the climate in mind, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make. Would it be beneficial to Apple to drastically cut their product output and decimate their own market share, adapting a product cycle which is the equivalent of suicide? No. That's dumb. However, that does not mean they cannot make an effort to reduce their impact on the climate to something sustainable.

The Paris Agreement is not about eliminating emissions, it is about reducing them to a manageable level. For tech companies to be pledging compliance with the Paris Agreement, they are essentially saying that they will do their part at reducing their impact on the environment to something sustainable.

And by the way, nothing will change or improve if we don't all work together. You act like if I personally reduce my carbon footprint, the world will be saved, but it doesn't work that way. The most important accomplishment of the Paris Agreement is that virtually the entire world was agreeing to work together. In the absence of guidance from the top, I'd say that these companies are doing the right thing in pledging to still do their part.

There is nothing that can be condemned in that sentiment.


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And before that, it was called Global Cooling. Beware the coming Ice Age. I want to be a climatologist so that like a meteorologist I can always be wrong, but only the whole world cowers in fear an caters to my whim lest they burst into flames or turn into icicles. It's like being Storm from the X-Men


"Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the full scope of the scientific climate literature, which showed a larger and faster-growing body of literature projecting future warming due to greenhouse gas emissions.[1] The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but underwent global warming throughout the 20th century.[2]"




And while we're at it, "climate change" is typically used to explain the larger changes on the climate beyond that of "temperatures are increasing". Nobody has ditched global warming. The fact is, temperatures have been increasing. Climate change is a way of addressing the fact that the problem is bigger than "global warming" makes it out to be, not an admission that anyone is wrong about increasing temperatures.
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dulun18 wrote:

these tech giants care about climate change Apple ? instead of coming out with a new phone every year.. how about every 5-10 years ?

you need electric vehicle to fight against climate change? do you know how they make those batteries? electricity ?etc/

there are simpler changes that people can make without having force it down other people's throat

- drive less-- walk, using bicycle, motorcycle, carpool, bus, etc.. i work from home so i only need to refill my car every 4-5 weeks! and i either run or use a bicycle for places that are within 1-4 miles of my house.

- spend less -- do you really need new clothes, purse, shoes, etc..so often when the ones you have are still usable ? etc.. i'm still wearing the same t-shirts and shorts that i keep patching up every time there's a hole

-recycle-- recycle what you can recycle and start a compost pile in your backyard-- plant more trees (if space is available). etc..

- reduce food waste -- 40% of foods grow in the US are wasted before reaching the market and then people also throw away food that they couldn't finish on time.

etc.....

i'm sure there are other things you can do to help the planet..

it's always hilarious to see hypocrites going around claiming they are doing their parts in saving the planet while those same people are either online 24/7, using the latest phones, shoes, clothes, purses, etc. they consume and waste more than a typical person


consuming less and reduce waste[/b] will help more than putting up a face like you are some advocates of the public while in reality you are the worst offender

this is like those politicians who are advocates for children against child predators but turned out to be one of the worst child predators themselves

so why don't you do your part in helping the planet instead of pretending to be...

my faith in humanity is the same-- i'll just continue to do my part while both sides continue to yap on endlessly


That's actually what makes this great. When have you seen a movement like this in the economy? Maybe the war effort to defeat Nazi Germany? Whatever the case I find it pretty endearing that some of our most successful tech companies (Places that deal with cutting edge things) think it important to foster long term sustainability in the world they inhabit when half of the Republican party is still dancing behind the notion that in their brilliant little heads this somehow hurts us economically.

The people that practically drive our economy don't agree with that :P.
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And while we're at it, "climate change" is typically used to explain the larger changes on the climate beyond that of "temperatures are increasing". Nobody has ditched global warming. The fact is, temperatures have been increasing. Climate change is a way of addressing the fact that the problem is bigger than "global warming" makes it out to be, not an admission that anyone is wrong about increasing temperatures.


Source? Because I see it used a lot to refer specifically to CAGW --with the implication that if you're not sold then you're a climate heretic
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mxdan wrote:


That's actually what makes this great. When have you seen a movement like this in the economy? Maybe the war effort to defeat Nazi Germany? Whatever the case I find it pretty endearing that some of our most successful tech companies (Places that deal with cutting edge things) think it important to foster long term sustainability in the world they inhabit when half of the Republican party is still dancing behind the notion that in their brilliant little heads this somehow hurts us economically.

The people that practically drive our economy don't agree with that :P.


TFW staying in the ice age equals fighting national socialists.
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