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Is this more common on applications now a day ?
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Posted 6/7/17 , edited 6/7/17
or maybe just for specific jobs

i guess this is another reason why it's best to avoid those riots like a plague.

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I've heard of it becoming more common as people do not want anti-fa applying to their place of work then taking off a week to go protest democracy. Some people use it as a snowflake test.
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this will cover any group/organization of nazis/fascists/domestic terrorists groups like Antifa, BLM, KKK, etc..
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As much as it pains me to indirectly defend the rights of groups like antifa, KKK, ect I have to say I am shocked any form of application has such questions other then for civil service/military. I feel its wrong to possibly dismiss someone for using their consituitionally protect right to protest, after all even non violent protests are really grey legally. In most states in the US anti-gang/organized crimes laws technically make it illegal to gather together in groups of a certain size. I really hope this example is from a govt office because if its a company... wow the lawsuits the snowflakes will make. scary stuff.
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Never seen that before.

Honestly, employment laws are tricky.

As a prospective employee you have a shitton of rights, and there's not many questions they can really ask (you may even be able to check local labor laws to see if this is legal... It probably is via some technicality or legal loophole, but still).

They technically can't even inquire much as to your criminal record or errrm.... "questionable habits in the past" (drug or alcohol use/abuse prior to seeking employment), unless it is relevant to the job at hand and can be proven as such. Even further, they must provide reasonable accommodations in order to help you seek out help in the case of such addictions.

So, as such I am unsure as to how they can ask this...

The problem though is, especially with "at will employment", that they can basically turn you away for anything so long as they can justify it via other means. (such as another candidate that's "more suited to the job", or "is more cost effective" - basically anything that isn't race, gender, etc. biased).

Furthermore, the biggest problem of all is that if you're going to bitch about the application, you pretty much are guaranteed not to get hired.
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DevinKuska wrote:

As much as it pains me to indirectly defend the rights of groups like antifa, KKK, ect I have to say I am shocked any form of application has such questions other then for civil service/military. I feel its wrong to possibly dismiss someone for using their consituitionally protect right to protest, after all even non violent protests are really grey legally. In most states in the US anti-gang/organized crimes laws technically make it illegal to gather together in groups of a certain size. I really hope this example is from a govt office because if its a company... wow the lawsuits the snowflakes will make. scary stuff.


As I said below you (and was posting at the same time you were), it's POSSIBLY illegal, but fuck all as to what you can do about it really...
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As I said below you (and was posting at the same time you were), it's POSSIBLY illegal, but fuck all as to what you can do about it really...


I live in WA state... we prosecute McDonalds because coffee is hot... never underestimate people who have nothing better to do then to look for a reason to scream that they are being discriminated against. I would also like to say I am not defending any group.. just saying if I owned a company i would be terrified to put those questions on any application.
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serifsansserif wrote:

As I said below you (and was posting at the same time you were), it's POSSIBLY illegal, but fuck all as to what you can do about it really...


I live in WA state... we prosecute McDonalds because coffee is hot... never underestimate people who have nothing better to do then to look for a reason to scream that they are being discriminated against. I would also like to say I am not defending any group.. just saying if I owned a company i would be terrified to put those questions on any application.


Yeah..... trust me, there's loopholes out the ass. And you ever have someone explain the rules and regs about posting a listing for an apartment for rent in San Fran? (east coast myself, but was planning on moving that way a decade ago..)

Where there's a way to sue, there's a way to circumvent.
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I've never seen that on any application I've filled out.
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Haven't filled out an application for nearly 20 years. I don't think those things should be on an application though.
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serifsansserif wrote:

As I said below you (and was posting at the same time you were), it's POSSIBLY illegal, but fuck all as to what you can do about it really...


I live in WA state... we prosecute McDonalds because coffee is hot... never underestimate people who have nothing better to do then to look for a reason to scream that they are being discriminated against. I would also like to say I am not defending any group.. just saying if I owned a company i would be terrified to put those questions on any application.



it's America. You can sue for anything but if you have a case or not is something else.

How do you prove what's going behind closed door of the HR department ? The thing with lawsuit and going to the media is all the skeletons in your closets will be on display for all to see..
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Posted 6/9/17 , edited 6/9/17
don't think i've seen those on any applications

i mean i don't really see the point of it unless you're like, applying for a government job or something.
Posted 6/9/17 , edited 6/9/17

dulun18 wrote:

or maybe just for specific jobs

i guess this is another reason why it's best to avoid those riots like a plague.


Seeing as my company's headquarters are on the DC Metro train loop (well, walking distance of a subway station), we've started adding this as part of the background check. We're doing the opposite of what Rujikin mentioned - we just want to be given a heads-up that you may take off randomly so that we can be flexible with our development sprints, any agile processes are moved to another team member if it's expected to be more than 24 hours off, and the company even paid for a whole bar during Comey's testimony (even those who didn't care much still got free booze, which was good enough for them).
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Seeing as my company's headquarters are on the DC Metro train loop (well, walking distance of a subway station), we've started adding this as part of the background check. We're doing the opposite of what Rujikin mentioned - we just want to be given a heads-up that you may take off randomly so that we can be flexible with our development sprints, any agile processes are moved to another team member if it's expected to be more than 24 hours off, and the company even paid for a whole bar during Comey's testimony (even those who didn't care much still got free booze, which was good enough for them).


so it was your company thatwas the one on the news ? people drinking in some bar during work hours ?

Does your CEO earn the same salary as an employee as well ? (saw it on PBS Newshour once)
Posted 6/9/17 , edited 6/9/17

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so it was your company that was the one on the news ? people drinking in some bar during work hours ?

Does your CEO earn the same salary as an employee as well ? (saw it on PBS Newshour once)


Probably not the company I work for. There were quite a lot of companies that ended up just paying for a few rounds at a bar while Comey testified yesterday.

Our CEO makes nothing. His salary is literally $0.00. He's the only executive that doesn't have a take-home salary. He works as much as I do (which is anywhere between 80-100 hours a week) and doesn't ask for anything, keeps his door open for employees and customers (they sometimes like to drop in unannounced), and discloses all financials each month (both in terms of salaries per department and overall business). I'm pretty happy with him. He's not necessarily CEO material if you go by the stereotypical CEO but he gives it his all.
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