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How would a modern purely 100% feminist nation look like?
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Posted 6/9/17 , edited 6/15/17

Shipwright wrote:

It would probably look something like this:


I concur.
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Feminism is the equality of genders so, it'd be a rather progressive society i'd say. But of course this thread is full of gender discourse or sexism because people don't understand the fundamentals of feminism.
A feminist society would benefit everyone, including men, as all "misandry" stems from misogyny.


Pssh, this is General Discussion! Get out of here with your "facts" and "reason". We won't have any of that here, no sirree.



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I am not sure, and it depends. How in agreement or close to views are the populace, or rather, what is the variance in opinion? I am not going to call this fascist, that is such a meaningless and rather blase term, but one of the underlying principles I believe from an earlier text is that "everyone agrees", or most of them on some principles or actions that must be taken, but that is how I understood the view. Essentially, a "democracy" where most everyone agrees, or a growth of a majority rule that is not established as such because everyone agrees in the first place. No matter the system, in real life internal strife is always there, especially in a democracy where this is allowed, but minimizing it to a great extent would make many things possible that an America would find unfeasible without a wholesale banding together as strong or stronger as Pearl Harbor.

It is similar to the adage that a "good monarchy is better than a good democracy, but a good democracy is better than a bad monarchy". In any case, I imagine mobilization of large scale projects would be far more likely, and would depend on inherent failure of some ideas or implementation, if internal strife virtually disappears.

I do not know, but a women only nation? They won't be able to sustain themselves, first of all. I mean....women have to come somewhere, and that would require men to contribute. Some part of your scenario would need work. For example, men can be feminist. You also need to identify the exact beliefs or range thereof, whether it be sex positive or the anti pornographic.

I would personally drop this, as it seems borderline impossible, really. As extra credit, I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult, really.

But in essence, a nation where everyone agrees has benefits, believe it or not.
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It would look mostly like what most of the western world looks like, because "feminism" is such a broad term that it can be applied to mostly everyone.
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It would depend on the type of feminism. Some feminists, like Gail Dines, are authoritarian and have bizarre views of the world. Others are progressives who actually empower not only women but everyone else as well.

Saying "What would a feminist nation look like?" is sort of like saying "What would a Shoujo Video-Game look like?" There's too much variety in both groups to render the question effectively meaningless.
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Masculinity is slowly being killed off. This topic well be a reality in the near future, and when that happens, I'll be sitting in a bathtub filled with water, cut my wrists and drop a toaster that's plugged in.
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Masculinity is slowly being killed off. This topic well be a reality in the near future, and when that happens, I'll be sitting in a bathtub filled with water, cut my wrists and drop a toaster that's plugged in.


You could always take shelter in the Congo. "Masculinity" there isn't going away anytime soon.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:


Carnagepool wrote:

Masculinity is slowly being killed off. This topic well be a reality in the near future, and when that happens, I'll be sitting in a bathtub filled with water, cut my wrists and drop a toaster that's plugged in.


You could always take shelter in the Congo. "Masculinity" there isn't going away anytime soon.


Here we go, someone that thinks Masculinity is a negative. That its sexiest and a bunch of other negatives. What you think is Masculine isn't what I define as being Masculine.
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To see what a truly feminist world would look like, just extrapolate current trends in the First World.
Most things wouldn't change much honestly. Women not being kept out of the careers they want and getting higher pay would probably be the biggest change. I doubt it would have a huge effect on most of the organizations they join beyond that; the same decisions would just be being made by people of a different gender. Funding for predominantly female programs would be only as cuttable as those for men. Industry would take women's wants into consideration when producing and marketing products. Granted, those wants may converge somewhat with men's when women are less pigeonholed. In a feminist world, people wouldn't be treated differently based on their sex except where there's an actual biological reason to do so (for example health care, dating, maternity).

I suspect that the OP isn't actually looking here for answers to the question posted. More likely trying to see what the reaction is. I mean, here of all places, even places on the internet is a terrible place to discuss the issue.
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Here we go, someone that thinks Masculinity is a negative. That its sexiest and a bunch of other negatives. What you think is Masculine isn't what I define as being Masculine.


I used quotation marks for a reason. I'm just messing with you.
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Feminism does not mean that women are better than men... that's misandry...


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What you said!! Yes!!
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it depends on the type of feminism
actual feminism that ya know GOT WOMEN TO VOTE and have jobs and shit


or the utter BULLSHIT we have today
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redokami wrote:

it depends on the type of feminism
actual feminism that ya know GOT WOMEN TO VOTE and have jobs and shit


or the utter BULLSHIT we have today


It's worth noting the "bullshit we have today" is not a recent development. That brand of feminism has always been around; we're just more aware of it now.
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Carnagepool wrote:
Masculinity is slowly being killed off. This topic well be a reality in the near future, and when that happens, I'll be sitting in a bathtub filled with water, cut my wrists and drop a toaster that's plugged in.


"Masculinity" is largely a construct that has constantly changed through out history and even in modern day varies wildly just from culture to culture. It is not "slowly being killed off" because there's never been a consensus to begin with. The current American idea of masculinity is in part shifting because the American economic and technological landscapes have shifted.

Go back two generations and the ideal of masculinity in western civilization was that of the industrial breadwinner. A man used his physical strength to support an entire family while the woman stayed at home. WW2 shook that up. More women entered the labour force. Technology advanced, industrial / manual labour became less important. Industries changed. Gender equality marched forward.

Go back a couple thousand years and the ideal of masculinity in western civilization was getting a blowjob from an underage teenage boy.

Times change. >.>

Remember, this:



Is Theodore Roosevelt. Maniliest of all Presidents.

This:

Is Franklin Roosevelt



Why? Because the idea of gendering children's clothing didn't come about till WW1 and it was an idea dreamed up by clothing retailers to sell more shit. When FDR was a kid, you wore a dress till you were 7 and had long hair. Regardless of gender.

And now, decades later, we're obsessed that we'll somehow ruin a child if we don't ensure they do "boy" things or "girl" things.

We're fucked up because of ad executives.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:


redokami wrote:

it depends on the type of feminism
actual feminism that ya know GOT WOMEN TO VOTE and have jobs and shit


or the utter BULLSHIT we have today


It's worth noting the "bullshit we have today" is not a recent development. That brand of feminism has always been around; we're just more aware of it now.


true, id sayatleast the early 90s it started, it just wasn't in main stream media and every fucking where lol
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