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As an educator, I recommend doing a project you are interested in and forgetting about what grade or extra credit you think you will get. Grades are a way for teachers to control you and rank you against other people in the class. They are not something you can control by choosing your topic to please the teacher. You will end up being happier and learning more doing something you are passionate about.

I'm a feminist who believes that all people of any gender should be treated with equal respect, If you think it would be nice for a woman to be respected as the equal of a man in the home and the workplace and be able to walk through the world without the constant fear of sexual violence, then you are a feminist too.

Just a note based on your question, a feminist military would have both men and women serving in both combat and leadership roles in equal proportions. The difference would be sexual misconduct and sexual assault committed by the members of that military would not be normalized and would not go unpunished.

Whether a particular military can defeat the Russian army in battle has to do with the size, strategy, tactics, training, teamwork, hardware and information technology employed by that military and how many allies come to its aid (along with a hole host of other things related to the combat environment.) It has nothing to do with the so called "manliness" of the army. That army can thump their manly chests all they want but if they are on horseback and the other side has tanks, there isn't a lot they can do. Also, there is a difference between a feminist and a coward. If you think a feminist is weak because of their belief in equality when in fact they are brave for standing up to people in power for what they believe in, you are a product of the patriarchy and owe it to yourself to learn more about it which is probably what your teacher is trying to help you do.

However, because of the psychological nature of warfare, a feminist army might be able to work together better. They wouldn't suffer from scandals like the Nude Photo Scandal and widespread sexual assault of women and abusive hazing of new recruits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military

Finally, runec is right, the Crunchyroll forums are not a good place to go for insight to complex societal/academic topics. Try reading some more scholarly articles. There are a ton of links at the bottom of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism. Or, if you can't be bothered, at least watch the new Wonder Woman movie and The Handmaiden's Tale on Hulu. ;-)
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I suppose it depends on which videos you watch, but I haven't watched any MGTOW videos in forever since they're kinda cringy, but I've seen them call women greedy, they're gold diggers that only care for men for their money, that they're shallow for having double standards in regards to height minimums, that they're manipulative for getting away with false rape allegations, that they try to control men using their femininity, etc. All in all just accusations that they seem to apply to all women and not just certain women.

Though like I said, I haven't seen any MGTOW videos in a while and the only time I ever click on them is if it covers an interesting story, but usually there's a lot of generalization of women that gets pretty annoying after a while.




Everything that you just said is correct. However, none of that is misogyny. Ok well it is a dislike of women but not in the way of believing that men are superior or anything like that.
It's more a dislike for how many women act. For how many men are treated or what many men go through. Against thrid wave feminism. But yes there is some generalising.
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escherspace wrote:

As an educator, I recommend doing a project you are interested in and forgetting about what grade or extra credit you think you will get. Grades are a way for teachers to control you and rank you against other people in the class. They are not something you can control by choosing your topic to please the teacher. You will end up being happier and learning more doing something you are passionate about.

I'm a feminist who believes that all people of any gender should be treated with equal respect, If you think it would be nice for a woman to be respected as the equal of a man in the home and the workplace and be able to walk through the world without the constant fear of sexual violence, then you are a feminist too.

Just a note based on your question, a feminist military would have both men and women serving in both combat and leadership roles in equal proportions. The difference would be sexual misconduct and sexual assault committed by the members of that military would not be normalized and would not go unpunished.

Whether a particular military can defeat the Russian army in battle has to do with the size, strategy, tactics, training, teamwork, hardware and information technology employed by that military and how many allies come to its aid (along with a hole host of other things related to the combat environment.) It has nothing to do with the so called "manliness" of the army. That army can thump their manly chests all they want but if they are on horseback and the other side has tanks, there isn't a lot they can do. Also, there is a difference between a feminist and a coward. If you think a feminist is weak because of their belief in equality when in fact they are brave for standing up to people in power for what they believe in, you are a product of the patriarchy and owe it to yourself to learn more about it which is probably what your teacher is trying to help you do.

However, because of the psychological nature of warfare, a feminist army might be able to work together better. They wouldn't suffer from scandals like the Nude Photo Scandal and widespread sexual assault of women and abusive hazing of new recruits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military

Finally, runec is right, the Crunchyroll forums are not a good place to go for insight to complex societal/academic topics. Try reading some more scholarly articles. There are a ton of links at the bottom of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism. Or, if you can't be bothered, at least watch the new Wonder Woman movie and The Handmaiden's Tale on Hulu. ;-)


The new Wonder Woman movie is fucking Captain America, the first avenger.
Set in WW1 (CA was WW2) it features a superhuman superhero who fights with a shield against soldiers who kill with gas (nazis) One of them also developed a chemical that gave its main villian throughout the movie superhuman strength that made them at least temporarily on par with the superhero.

Oh and there was a soldier named steve that sacrificed himself by crashing a plane to save the world.

Handmaiden's tale.. Has anyone even read that!?!?!?!?!? Am I the only one?

And about how a lot of it has to do with women being enslaved for their reproductive ability, yes. but also because of christian values and the wives of the christian military men in it not being able to give birth... And then there's the weird footnote about indian and asian cultures allowing people to fuck like bunnies and that's why white people are extinct at the end of the book?

It was weird as fuck. Sure there's the obvious stuff to it that cliff notes will tell you, but there's still more to it.

(I hate it when people give material as good "source material" for treatises and philosophies when they're just pop culture crap)
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It would be over run with immigration. No i do not believe it wold be able to defend itself. Men would be feminised, not ideal for a soldier.
There would be no male teachers or strong male father figure role models.
Gays would probably be on the rise.
More men would be acused of being rapists and pedophiles.
Video games would suck, movies would suck, comics would suck.
Life for men would be hell, all of our fun would be removed. Sport would probably be ruined as well.
I think the nation would fall. It would be over thrown.
Would be an absolute disaster.
I bet transgender would be on the rise. male depression and suicide would be even higher than it already is.
The family structure would be even more fucked also.

That's my opinion anyways.


oh god alot of people faking being transgender
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Sweden, Germany, United Kingdom?
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Sweden, Germany, United Kingdom?


Canada also?
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MysticGon wrote:

Sweden, Germany, United Kingdom?


Canada also?


Oh yeah, them and France. Especially the not shaving part.
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MrAnimeSK wrote:


MysticGon wrote:

Sweden, Germany, United Kingdom?


Canada also?


Oh yeah, them and France. Especially the not shaving part.


They dont shave in France? dam. Do you just mean pubic hair or you mean legs and arm pits??
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MysticGon wrote:


MrAnimeSK wrote:


MysticGon wrote:

Sweden, Germany, United Kingdom?


Canada also?


Oh yeah, them and France. Especially the not shaving part.


They dont shave in France? dam. Do you just mean pubic hair or you mean legs and arm pits??


I'm talking pulling out 4 inch long strands after you "dine out" if you catch my drift.
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I'm talking pulling out 4 inch long strands after you "dine out" if you catch my drift.


Bit like the Japanese then? although i've recently seem some evidence of them shaving.
Posted 6/10/17
I believe there was already a feminist thread on here i read that already.. somehow this feels like a trap.
Posted 6/10/17 , edited 6/10/17
The confusion of feminism 5/16-19 was already on forums.
also found another thread by Sagenaruto - What do you think about feminism?

so yup already threads about this?
Posted 6/10/17

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I believe there was already a feminist thread on here i read that already.. somehow this feels like a trap.
Yeah there was a feminism thread earlier where I pointed out SchlomoShekelberg is an anti-semitic troll name. After Shekelberg tried to claim Shekelberg is a proud traditional Jewish name (its not) and that I'm the real racist, he disappeared and I guess came back to post more about how a feminist society is obviously some sort of self-defeating dystopia that can't hold an economy for reasons.


SchlomoShekelberg wrote:
I have been pondering this scenario. Imagine a nation, where everyone is a feminist. They have a woman leader who is also a feminist. They have an army full of strong queer healthy at every size womyn. You get the gist. How would such a nation be like in the real world.
But no no, this seems like a totally healthy and reasonable perspective on feminism for a totally real university project. Not at all something a lonely, bitter channer would dream up.
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Paid maternal/paternal leave, a living wage, sex worker protection, pay equity, not having fashion and motherhood as the major topic in every interview, et cetera. But, we would most likely still be arguing over things like for and against sex-positivity as empowerment, abortion access, Trans-acceptance, and junk. Oh, and there would be an autocratic far-wing extremists that would proclaim men should be regulated as second class citizens or eliminated (basically, an MRA of only women). They are present in every society. Always.
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SchlomoShekelberg wrote:

I have been pondering this scenario. Imagine a nation, where everyone is a feminist. They have a woman leader who is also a feminist. They have an army full of strong queer healthy at every size womyn. You get the gist. How would such a nation be like in the real world.


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