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section 8 not for the lazy no more.
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Posted 6/11/17 , edited 6/11/17

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Stupid. Waste of time and money. Serves no purpose other than dehumanizing the poor.


No that was what welfare was doing... making people dependent on the government handout.. brainwashing entire generations into being stooges for the demarcate party.

Now they will have to stop being lazy and being a drain on society and work to become something. Its a good thing... after all I was instilled with a healthy work ethic.. leeches that can work but don't should not be getting handouts.


How is drug testing going to make people stop being lazy again?

EDIT- Trump's budget that included work requirements for welfare was not voted on so pretty much the only thing we can discuss is the drug testing which I doubt will make people less lazy.
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Posted 6/11/17 , edited 6/12/17

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

because its fun watching them call me a liar without looking into it first.. its teasing them.

On top of that I gave links to 4 people talking about it.. if they paid attention they would have seen that and new that it is a thing.


Doesn't justify posting misleading images.

Besides, people don't watch youtube videos because they're usually a waste of time when you could read an article and get to the point in 2 minutes instead of watching an 8 minute video.



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Posted 6/11/17 , edited 6/11/17

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
because its fun watching them call me a liar without looking into it first.. its teasing them.


"I'm totally going to tease these guys by making myself look like an idiot. That'll show them!"

It worries me that this makes sense in your mind. It would be far less embarrassing to just admit you made a mistake with the Tweet and focus on the actual articles. Since otherwise it means you posted a topic you intentionally meant to have derailed.


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HAHAAHAHHA. Oh man the irony of this post. You are one of the main "omgurd fake news blah blah" and you have literally just posted FAKE NEWS. Seriously, that isn't even a real Donald Trump tweet. I DARE YOU TO FIND IT ON HIS TWITTER. This has been debunked so many times, and the only people still pushing it are alt-right nutters with their fake news facebook posts. You even managed to find several youtube videos (again, so impressed by your sources) of people that are actually talking about something completely different. In his proposed budget he has huge cuts to HUD which includes a massive amount of rent assistance to WORKING families that can't afford to cover their rent.


edit: http://www.snopes.com/drug-test-benefits-trump-tweet/
Damn, debunked all the way back in January and you are still falling for it. Well done sir, you made my night.






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rawratl wrote:

HAHAAHAHHA. Oh man the irony of this post. You are one of the main "omgurd fake news blah blah" and you have literally just posted FAKE NEWS. Seriously, that isn't even a real Donald Trump tweet. I DARE YOU TO FIND IT ON HIS TWITTER. This has been debunked so many times, and the only people still pushing it are alt-right nutters with their fake news facebook posts. You even managed to find several youtube videos (again, so impressed by your sources) of people that are actually talking about something completely different. In his proposed budget he has huge cuts to HUD which includes a massive amount of rent assistance to WORKING families that can't afford to cover their rent.


edit: http://www.snopes.com/drug-test-benefits-trump-tweet/
Damn, debunked all the way back in January and you are still falling for it. Well done sir, you made my night.



Nice eye, didn't even notice something was off about that tweet.





Maybe this is a fake Tweet and maybe it isn't. However in one of the debates Trump said welfare recipients need to take drug tests in order to get welfare benefits. So even if its a fake tweet its his real position on it.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:

Stupid. Waste of time and money. Serves no purpose other than dehumanizing the poor.


How do drug tests dehumanize the poor? Does it mean my work places dehumanized me every time I took a drug test to get hired? I don't feel dehumanized.
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Posted 6/12/17 , edited 6/12/17
Drug testing is a massive waste of government funds if you know anything about it.

Ask yourselves how much would it cost the united states government to drug test every single welfare recipient? Where do they even begin to start with such a thing? That would put a massive load on hospitals whilst also being a PR nightmare when it comes to procedure and stipulations. Not everything is cut and dry about it.

But in perspective, typical drug system periods for a urine test;

Amphetamine: 2 days
Barbiturates: 2 days-3 weeks
Benzodiazepines: 3 days (therapeutic dose); 4-6 weeks (habitual use)
Cocaine: 4 days
Ecstasy: 2 days
Heroin: 2 days
Marijuana: 2-7 days (single use); 1-2+ months (habitual use)
Methamphetamine: 2 days
Morphine: 2 days
PCP: 8-14 days (single use); 30 days (chronic users)

Do you guys really think with such low periods of substance in system the undertaking is even viable? We are talking millions of dollars for something that potentially has no payoff. Drug tests, in general, are pointless if opted into. If people are randomly drug tested then it's a different story but these people seeking welfare probably won't be coming in high as a kite if they are a user.

Use your brains people >_<...
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Posted 6/12/17

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
because its fun watching them call me a liar without looking into it first.. its teasing them.

On top of that I gave links to 4 people talking about it.. if they paid attention they would have seen that and new that it is a thing.



Dogempire wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

because its fun watching them call me a liar without looking into it first.. its teasing them.

On top of that I gave links to 4 people talking about it.. if they paid attention they would have seen that and new that it is a thing.


Doesn't justify posting misleading images.


I agree that using that tweet image was misleading, and that posting for the purpose of "teasing" in this way is not appropriate. Therefore I've closed the thread.
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