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Posted 6/12/17 , edited 6/13/17

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I think that the Nobel Peace Prize has lost all credibility. For example: No matter what you think of Barack Obama, giving him the peace prize before he even took office makes no sense. The other Nobel Prizes might be OK, but the people doing the selecting for the peace prize need to be replaced.


I know right? same with woman of the year award,
bruce jenner got it, when that muslim girl who wrote that book after fighting for womens rights and beign shot by the Taliban (?) I forgot her name , I think it starts with a M , she was on the list of who to pick from , bloody hell she should have got it


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Posted 6/12/17

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they actually have yet to conclude Russia did what they did on the scale that is being claimed, yesthey hacked the DNC, not the election tho,
it hasn't been proven that "trump is in putins pocket" so to speak tho
you cant honestly thinkputin has that much power when congress has more power than trump do you?


as for the other, people always seem to forget the irish, their status as slaves were lower than Africans over here and were treated as such
and in Europe middle easterners always took white Europeans as slaves, whites to this day are treated horribly over in Africa and the middle east, what is left of the white population there that is, so yes whites have had and do have systemic oppression in dfferent places, particularly where we are a minority, like south Africa

do we have it over here in America and some of Europe? no
does it exist stil? yes lol
why cant we just fight against injustice for all instead of singling out a particular race,and sorry but its not black lives matter "too" otherwise that would be in the name tbh, and their actions
speaking of minority

on the grand scale of the whole world , we are a minority, compared to "poc" which would include middle easterners, Africans, som south americans etc

You're completely ignoring why Black Lives Matter even started.

Black Lives Matter started because there was a series of high-profile black deaths at police hands where there was no justice for the victims. There was not a series of high-profile Irish deaths at police hands where there was no justice for the victims. That's the difference.

http://www.fox34.com/story/35634544/a-look-at-high-profile-police-related-deaths-of-us-blacks

And some of these we have video, like Eric Gardner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGxagKOkv8

Look at these cases, watch the videos and it's hard not to feel like black lives don't matter to the police or the justice system. From that context, it's really easy to see why it's called Black Lives Matter and not All Lives Matter. It is not all lives that are being trivialized here.
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redokami wrote:
they actually have yet to conclude Russia did what they did on the scale that is being claimed, yesthey hacked the DNC, not the election tho,
it hasn't been proven that "trump is in putins pocket" so to speak tho
you cant honestly thinkputin has that much power when congress has more power than trump do you?


as for the other, people always seem to forget the irish, their status as slaves were lower than Africans over here and were treated as such
and in Europe middle easterners always took white Europeans as slaves, whites to this day are treated horribly over in Africa and the middle east, what is left of the white population there that is, so yes whites have had and do have systemic oppression in dfferent places, particularly where we are a minority, like south Africa

do we have it over here in America and some of Europe? no
does it exist stil? yes lol
why cant we just fight against injustice for all instead of singling out a particular race,and sorry but its not black lives matter "too" otherwise that would be in the name tbh, and their actions
speaking of minority

on the grand scale of the whole world , we are a minority, compared to "poc" which would include middle easterners, Africans, som south americans etc

You're completely ignoring why Black Lives Matter even started.

Black Lives Matter started because there was a series of high-profile black deaths at police hands where there was no justice for the victims. There was not a series of high-profile Irish deaths at police hands where there was no justice for the victims. That's the difference.

http://www.fox34.com/story/35634544/a-look-at-high-profile-police-related-deaths-of-us-blacks

And some of these we have video, like Eric Gardner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGxagKOkv8

Look at these cases, watch the videos and it's hard not to feel like black lives don't matter to the police or the justice system. From that context, it's really easy to see why it's called Black Lives Matter and not All Lives Matter. It is not all lives that are being trivialized here.

we can cherry pick all we want
at this point its all been said
I can go over how more blacks kill eachother than by the hands of police, I can go over how -and u prob agree- that anyone can be racist
I can go over how we should just fight for injustice for everyone

I can go ove rhow in some of the cases that happened the victim was doing wrong

but in th end, I,, and others who share my views -and facts- wont be listened to
andBLM clearly doesn't fight for all
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Well they gave Obama a Nobel peace prize so hey, why not? Peace prizes for all!!!


^ This

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well, whatever. it's not like it's worth anything anymore
Posted 6/12/17 , edited 6/13/17

redokami wrote:


FootChar wrote:


redokami wrote:
they actually have yet to conclude Russia did what they did on the scale that is being claimed, yesthey hacked the DNC, not the election tho,
it hasn't been proven that "trump is in putins pocket" so to speak tho
you cant honestly thinkputin has that much power when congress has more power than trump do you?


as for the other, people always seem to forget the irish, their status as slaves were lower than Africans over here and were treated as such
and in Europe middle easterners always took white Europeans as slaves, whites to this day are treated horribly over in Africa and the middle east, what is left of the white population there that is, so yes whites have had and do have systemic oppression in dfferent places, particularly where we are a minority, like south Africa

do we have it over here in America and some of Europe? no
does it exist stil? yes lol
why cant we just fight against injustice for all instead of singling out a particular race,and sorry but its not black lives matter "too" otherwise that would be in the name tbh, and their actions
speaking of minority

on the grand scale of the whole world , we are a minority, compared to "poc" which would include middle easterners, Africans, som south americans etc

You're completely ignoring why Black Lives Matter even started.

Black Lives Matter started because there was a series of high-profile black deaths at police hands where there was no justice for the victims. There was not a series of high-profile Irish deaths at police hands where there was no justice for the victims. That's the difference.

http://www.fox34.com/story/35634544/a-look-at-high-profile-police-related-deaths-of-us-blacks

And some of these we have video, like Eric Gardner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGxagKOkv8

Look at these cases, watch the videos and it's hard not to feel like black lives don't matter to the police or the justice system. From that context, it's really easy to see why it's called Black Lives Matter and not All Lives Matter. It is not all lives that are being trivialized here.

we can cherry pick all we want
at this point its all been said
I can go over how more blacks kill eachother than by the hands of police, I can go over how -and u prob agree- that anyone can be racist
I can go over how we should just fight for injustice for everyone

I can go ove rhow in some of the cases that happened the victim was doing wrong

but in th end, I,, and others who share my views -and facts- wont be listened to
andBLM clearly doesn't fight for all

Do you really want to fight for justice for everyone? Because you can start with these people. So far I'm hearing lame excuses.

"Oh the cases are cherry-picked"
"Black people kill each other too"
"Anyone can be racist"
"Actually the victim was no angel"
"Why aren't they advocating for me"

The fact is if I show you video of a non-threatening person being killed by a police officer by excessive force, you should be angry. You should want that officer held accountable for their actions. End of.

Instead, you're angry at the people who want to hold the police accountable. Why? Is there a secret epidemic of white people being killed by the police, that BLM just glosses over? Because I highly doubt that. Are the police infallible? Is every death dealt by the police justified, no matter what the tape shows? I highly doubt that too. Then why would you want justice for everyone, but not these people? What commonality between them makes them all unworthy of justice?

Because I don't know what other conclusion you expect me to draw here.
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Is this the same Black Lives Matter that has at least some members chanting for dead cops? Is that the one?
I could be sympathetic to BLM or what it ideally would stand for. Honestly, I don't follow it that much, but there have been some unjustified killings; there have also been some close calls. But there are a lot of police throughout the nation, at least a few of them will be bad-- doesn't mean it's time to start calling all cops bad, collective guilt and all. Again I don't follow it that well, but in a number of the well-publicized cases the victims seem at least partly at fault.
I don't really know how widespread the chants for dead cops are, but I don't think they'd be my first choice for a peace prize. This strikes me as sort of weird (divorced from reality maybe).
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It's not just black lives that matter. Regardless of gender or ethnicity, ALL LIVES MATTER.
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Is this the same Black Lives Matter that has at least some members chanting for dead cops? Is that the one?
I could be sympathetic to BLM or what it ideally would stand for. Honestly, I don't follow it that much, but there have been some unjustified killings; there have also been some close calls. But there are a lot of police throughout the nation, at least a few of them will be bad-- doesn't mean it's time to start calling all cops bad, collective guilt and all. Again I don't follow it that well, but in a number of the well-publicized cases the victims seem at least partly at fault.
I don't really know how widespread the chants for dead cops are, but I don't think they'd be my first choice for a peace prize. This strikes me as sort of weird (divorced from reality maybe).


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why should we listen to a group that says if u say all lives matter ur racist
that in a lot of the cases the victim was doing something wrong
thatthey call the police pigs and call for their deaths - and in the instance of texas last summer 8 police were killed and ppl of BLM on twitter were praising it-
a group that riots and burns down their communities
a group that labels all white people racist and beats them up when opportunity arises
a group whose founders admit they take inspiration from black panthers, a officially labeled terrorist group

taking out statistics of police brutality, look at what surrounds this particular group , its not good, and honestly its a racist hate group

it COULD have been good, if it was labled something like FPB fight police brutality, instead its focused on black lives, not any other group or persons that is a victim of police brutality racism, and oppression
it COULD have bee good if theydidnt scream racist rhetoric
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they actually have yet to conclude Russia did what they did on the scale that is being claimed, yesthey hacked the DNC, not the election tho


Have you been following the NSA leak situation?

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/
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redokami wrote:

they actually have yet to conclude Russia did what they did on the scale that is being claimed, yesthey hacked the DNC, not the election tho


Have you been following the NSA leak situation?

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/


no but I wil after I finih my weekly overwatch loot boxes
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"Why aren't the cancer victims advocating for a cure helping me with athlete's foot?"

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"Why aren't the cancer victims advocating for a cure helping me with athlete's foot?"



except racism oppression and police brutality is racism oppression and police brutality no matter what ethnicity ,reason etc
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I kind of got the impression Black Lives Matter was more of an idea then an organized movement, a hashtag really. Kind of like gamergate was a while back. And once an idea picks up momentum, you're going to have all kinds of people acting on it. There are probably legitimately good people simply trying to increase oversight of law enforcement people, which in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. But yeah, there are a lot of people who are also being idiots about it and taking it too far. Stirring up active hatred for cops as a whole, for example, is not a good idea.

Anyways, the award seems to have been specifically for a small group of founding members, quoting the linked article.


The award recognizes the work of the founding leaders of the social justice activist network, Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi


I'd have to do my research to be sure, but I'm guessing they aren't actively/directly responsible for any of BLM's more abrasive actions.
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except racism oppression and police brutality is racism oppression and police brutality no matter what ethnicity ,reason etc


Yes, but which group has historically suffered a disproportionate share of said brutality and racism in American society?

This is seriously not that hard. Don't make me bust out the burning house comic again.



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