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Post Reply New Catalog Titles from Funimation: Eureka Seven, Casshern Sins, Soul Eater, Attack on Titan: Junior High and
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Posted 6/24/17 , edited 6/24/17
Please watch Eureka Seven if you haven't before. As far as I'm concerned it's one of the best anime in the past couple of decades.

Amazing art, music, characters, story, cool mecha, great style, and 2 of the most beautiful romances you'll ever see in anime. The only soundtrack i've ever bought in my life was from this series.
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Posted 6/24/17 , edited 6/29/17

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CR never cared about people outside US, now when they work with Funimation things look even worse. Also it's kinda funny how they demand same price worldwide even if they block most series outside USA (for example in my country we have access to less than half of catalog).


This is basically Funimation's catalog moving over. The underlying contract does not change, which means that we can only receive the regions that Funimation licensed back in the days. Actually in quite a few cases availability on Crunchyroll expands previous availability, as Funimation does have rights for select titles in parts of Europe and some odd other countries that their own streaming outlets did not serve. For some countries Funimation may have also already exclusively sublicensed to other companies prior to striking the deal with us, which explains the absence of Oceania and UK/IE from some titles in particular.

An expansion of English language coverage to other regions would have to be negotiated by Funimation for all of these titles. For other key language regions (French-, Italian, German- and Spanish-speaking Europe) most of the titles are actually already licensed by other companies, and usually available for streaming - just not on Crunchyroll. For those titles to come to Crunchyroll, the local publishers need to be willing to strike a deal with Crunchyroll similar to the one we have with Funimation.

As for the pricing: Any customers who have billing in their local currency pays less than an US subscriber. They pay 10 to 25% less, depending on where they are located. Half of the subscription fee is forwarded to the producers of the titles they actually watched, not any title that they didn't watch. Out of the other half of their membership fee, Crunchyroll has to pay for all of the expenses of the service, e.g. financial transaction fees associated to the subscriptions, personnel, translation, bandwidth, servers, power, office spaces, licenses, etc. If they are in a region with less content available, they are certainly not financing the catalog in a region that has more content available - it's more likely vice-versa.


Why we should care that's Funimation shows? It's just more titles in catalog that will not be available. And that pricing argument... that was joke, right? People from region locked regions must pay same price as people who have access to all shows. You really think that currency value can make any difference with all that region locked shows? As for CR expenses, you really think having same offer worldwide would bring them less money?
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Looks like my queue will be overflowing this summer!
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Posted 6/24/17 , edited 6/29/17

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People from region locked regions must pay same price as people who have access to all shows.

With any international streaming subscription service (not just CR, but also Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, etc.), there are going to be differences in the catalog that are available to different regions, but rarely any significant difference in price. You are paying for access to streaming, not for a specific size catalog. If the latter were what we were paying for, we would all be paying more now than we were in 2009.

By the way, unless there is a problem with your account, you seem to have no standing to complain subscription value, since you aren't shown as a subscriber. As a free viewer, you "pay" exactly the same price per episode as anyone anywhere.

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Why we should care that's Funimation shows? It's just more titles in catalog that will not be available. And that pricing argument... that was joke, right? People from region locked regions must pay same price as people who have access to all shows. You really think that currency value can make any difference with all that region locked shows? As for CR expenses, you really think having same offer worldwide would bring them less money?


The customers complaining are complaining about a fact that a show we sublicensed from Funimation is not available in their region. We can't simply change the fact that it isn't available in their region. Or do you want to imply that we should stop getting any content, if it's not globally available?

No, that is not a joke. The membership fee bears zero relation to the availability of content. It's a service fee, not a content fee. If it were a content fee, we'd have to constantly raise prices everywhere, because every key region we serve receives about 100-120 new titles every year currently.

The service we provide is legal streaming of anime, roughly an hour after launch in Japan, and every month we transfer millions of Dollars to the Japanese producers of the shows, according to how much of their content our customers have watched. Not to mention that we also finance the production of several new titles directly in every season (which usually receive worldwide availability).
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Posted 6/25/17 , edited 6/29/17

shinryou wrote:


Sacr3ds wrote:

Why we should care that's Funimation shows? It's just more titles in catalog that will not be available. And that pricing argument... that was joke, right? People from region locked regions must pay same price as people who have access to all shows. You really think that currency value can make any difference with all that region locked shows? As for CR expenses, you really think having same offer worldwide would bring them less money?


The customers complaining are complaining about a fact that a show we sublicensed from Funimation is not available in their region. We can't simply change the fact that it isn't available in their region. Or do you want to imply that we should stop getting any content, if it's not globally available?

Worldwide or nothing.


shinryouNo, that is not a joke. The membership fee bears zero relation to the availability of content. It's a service fee, not a content fee. If it were a content fee, we'd have to constantly raise prices everywhere, because every key region we serve receives about 100-120 new titles every year currently.

Yeah... key regions.


shinryouThe service we provide is legal streaming of anime, roughly an hour after launch in Japan, and every month we transfer millions of Dollars to the Japanese producers of the shows, according to how much of their content our customers have watched. Not to mention that we also finance the production of several new titles directly in every season (which usually receive worldwide availability).

That's sounds so PR... Problem is most of good titles are available only for key regions.


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By the way, unless there is a problem with your account, you seem to have no standing to complain subscription value, since you aren't shown as a subscriber. As a free viewer, you "pay" exactly the same price per episode as anyone anywhere.


Yeah... pay sub for less than half of shows in catalog... great idea, really.
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Posted 6/25/17 , edited 6/29/17

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Worldwide or nothing.

Unless you meant "worldwide outside of Asia", the result would be that CR would have only a handful of titles, and probably not the ones you want to see.

If you believe CR suddenly demanding "worldwide or nothing" would make the publishers in Japan kowtow to that demand, you are simply naive. In case you haven't noticed, CR isn't the only game in town for licensing titles for streaming.



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Yeah... pay sub for less than half of shows in catalog... great idea, really.

So can you point to another streaming service that serves your country and offers more titles per dollar?

Frankly, your complaint is akin to someone walking into a chain buffet restaurant and demanding that because it don't offer as big a selection as their other location in the next town, you should pay less.
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It seems we get a few catalog shows every Friday now, I'm praying Code Geass is on this weeks list
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Aaaaaw wish it wasn't only the US and Canada that got Eureka Seven ;_;
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It seems we get a few catalog shows every Friday now, I'm praying Code Geass is on this weeks list

I take it you aren't in the Americas, as here they've been announced on Thursday evening.

I'm curious if we'll still get a batch this Thursday, or they will be suspended during the period simulcasts are being announced.

I don't know that I would hold my breath on Code Geass appearing here soon. While I haven't set down and done an analysis, my impression is that these have mostly been titles that have been on Funimation's own site for at least a year (with the exception of the first My Hero Academia series, which still came close). If that is indeed the case, we would not be seeing Code Geass here until at least late this year.
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nate101686 wrote:

It seems we get a few catalog shows every Friday now, I'm praying Code Geass is on this weeks list

I take it you aren't in the Americas, as here they've been announced on Thursday evening.

I'm curious if we'll still get a batch this Thursday, or they will be suspended during the period simulcasts are being announced.

I don't know that I would hold my breath on Code Geass appearing here soon. While I haven't set down and done an analysis, my impression is that these have mostly been titles that have been on Funimation's own site for at least a year (with the exception of the first My Hero Academia series, which still came close). If that is indeed the case, we would not be seeing Code Geass here until at least late this year.


No I'm in Illinois I just happen to notice announcements Friday on Twitter
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Sacr3ds wrote: Why we should care that's Funimation shows? It's just more titles in catalog that will not be available.

Because the flip side of the Funimation contract was the increase in "Worldwide outside of Asia" licenses that happened this year.

This catalog titles were already available subtitled in North America on Funimation's site ... they are just moving. As a side effect, a few of them become available for the first time in various Nordic countries, and/or South Africa.

But the benefit of the deal for the rest of Europe, for Latin America, for most of Africa ... that is in the additional simulcasts you get (and which, thanks to the growth of the Chinese streaming market, we are mostly locked out of).


And that pricing argument... that was joke, right? People from region locked regions must pay same price as people who have access to all shows.

Things cost different amounts in different places ... for instance, food is cheaper here in Beijing than in Northeast Ohio, but rents are higher. A larger media market means an ability to cover contracting costs on less royalty payments per person. It's normal to expect the price per episode to be lower in North America or China (just subtitled in Mandarin ), higher in smaller anime media markets.

Without Crunchyroll, those of you who get over half of Crunhyroll's simulasts would have to pay even more for even less content, if a streaming service dedicated to you could be financially viable in the first place.
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Posted 6/27/17 , edited 6/27/17
Last I checked everyone here has an internet connection which means every show is available to you. Interpret that how you will. I still choose to pay for a Netflix and Crunchyroll sub plus Amazon Prime (though I had that long before their video services were a thing) despite other options being available to me. Do I still watch every show I want to see every season despite those being my only two subs? Abso-fuckin-lutely.
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Posted 6/29/17
Initial-D PLEASE!
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Will there be any more today? :> Been enjoying the last few months of new anime just about every thursday.
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