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In Sweden, Hundreds Of Refugee Children Gave Up On Life
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This is a crazy story I read and its from NPR. Do you think this is bullshit or do you think this is a real thing?




The children go into these comalike states when their families are notified that they will be deported. The only known cure is for their families to receive residency permits allowing them to stay in Sweden. It's not a sudden, magical reawakening when family members read the approved residency permit in the nonresponsive child's presence. Somehow, the information gets through. While there are no long-term follow-up studies, Aviv says, over a period of days, weeks, sometimes a few months, the child begins to eat, move, react and come back to the world. Goats & Soda talked with Aviv about the story.


http://archive.is/o7h5M
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...u don't just go in a coma like that lol,
wow , much propaganda
such surprise
very feels
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Such healthy looking corpses.
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Its cruel and fake..
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I gave up on life a long time ago. Where's my medal??
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

I gave up on life a long time ago. Where's my medal??


Sorry your not a refugee. Medals do not apply to you.
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Well according to the US National Library of Medicine it exist. From what I read it is seem like an extreme combination of PTSD and depression.
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Sounds like more "refugee" leeching to me.
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Sucks for them, they still have to go back.
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redokami wrote:
...u don't just go in a coma like that lol,
wow , much propaganda
such surprise
very feels


Well, according to the original article, they didn't just go into a coma. They sank into depression first and slowly shut down. And a residency permit doesn't magically "cure" it. Even if the kid's family gains a sense of security it still takes months for them to recover and some don't seem to fully recover at all.

The original article has more information than the NPR one:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/03/the-trauma-of-facing-deportation

And here's a related study that concludes it's a form of catatonia, not some new syndrome:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4731541/


Conclusion

The regional distribution and the prevalence of RS are challenging to explain. Firstly, we have tried to establish that RS represents a disorder previously described. Historical accounts demonstrate that so is the case. We find no reason to ascribe to this phenomenon a novel diagnostic entity.

Secondly, bearing this in mind, the diagnostic fit to known disorders and hypotheses previously put forward have been evaluated. We have argued catatonia to supply the best fit and suggested means of examining this hypothesis in accordance with clinical practise and by neuroimaging. Catatonia, recently reconceptualized, amounts to a phenomenological description of a clinical entity for which there presumably can be different causes.

Thirdly, the regional distribution, we have argued, is best explained by perceiving RS as culture-bound. Importantly, this does not preclude other factors to interplay in pathogenesis. On the contrary, individual predisposition, traumatization, contextual factors as well as culturally sanctioned beliefs and expectations, may all be involved.

Lastly, we have provided a predictive coding model of RS. On the basis of extreme priors, fixed by previous experiences, the percept of the inner and outer world is stable and skewed. Consequently, error signal minimization is directed towards effecting the inner and outer worlds to accord with the predictions which unharnesses homeostatic and behavioral responses with that objective. This includes, on a social extension, the projection of a culturally sanctioned idiom of distress also interpretable in a predictive coding framework. Accommodating an extensive multilevel involvement of homeostatic, cognitive and emotional systems with deep impact on behavior influenced by cultural expectations, this analysis is compatible with RS being catatonia, culture-bound.
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Others have already proved that this is a legit thing, so I won't do that. But do you guys seriously think that being a refugee is all sunshine and rainbows with guaranteed high quality of life and no stress?
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The illness catatonia isn't really new though. But I haven't read about this at all in mainstream European media. After a quick search the only news sources reporting this are quoting the new Yorker as source rather than any Swedisch or European agencies as sources... The most mainstream who reported this was the Independent.co.uk and NPO who used the The New Yorker as source. If this happens so much in Sweden, I expect it to be featured across Europe, as sad refugee news is almost daily reported.

Are there any other (credible) European sources than the American newspaper the New Yorker?
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BoxWillow wrote:

The illness catatonia isn't really new though. But I haven't read about this at all in mainstream European media. After a quick search the only news sources reporting this are quoting the new Yorker as source rather than any Swedisch or European agencies as sources... The most mainstream who reported this was the Independent.co.uk and NPO who used the The New Yorker as source. If this happens so much in Sweden, I expect it to be featured across Europe, as sad refugee news is almost daily reported.

Are there any other (credible) European sources than the American newspaper the New Yorker?


That is because all of this happened between 2006 or so and 2016. Sweden reported on it in 2006 apparently and otherwise it has been a medical interest.
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Well they are teenagers and in Sweden maybe they are just really bored
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so I won't do that. But do you guys seriously think that being a refugee is all sunshine and rainbows with guaranteed high quality of life and no stress?


As long as you're a member of a protected class and are in a bleeding heart country like Germany, Sweden and the UK, sure, why not. Benefits, ability to lie about your age for more bennies with no question and if someone does call you out on it there are hordes of natives willing to slit their own throats to defend you from the big mean racists.
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"refugees"

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Majority of "refugees" flooding into Europe are coming from countries that are not at war. They're economic migrants. And it sounds like the one's in the story were goaded into doing that by their parents, which isn't hard to believe at all. Give em a little smack on the face and see how fast they start moving
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