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Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17
well if they don't value life then I guess there would be no qualms putting them out of their misery
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Very odd it looks like something is most defiantly fishy here..
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Once again I get to be disgusted by some of our forumers refusal to entertain even a sliver of a possibility of compassion.

Healthy skepticism and wanting to know more before completely accepting something as initially presented is understandable. What I find disturbing is the common attitudes of "I can't personally imagine myself feeling this way, so it must be fake" or "even if it's real they deserve to suffer."

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lorreen wrote:

Once again I get to be disgusted by some of our forumers refusal to entertain even a sliver of a possibility of compassion.

Healthy skepticism and wanting to know more before completely accepting something as initially presented is understandable. What I find disturbing is the common attitudes of "I can't personally imagine myself feeling this way, so it must be fake" or "even if it's real they deserve to suffer."



Don't know about everyone else, but I will often talk out of my ass and say those kinds of things without meaning it. Not sure why I do it. I would say something similar to that, but in my mind, I would still think about the possibilities of it being real and what it would be like, even though I don't really believe it.

It's kind of similar to when I make racist jokes or similar. In particular, I tend to talk about killing Jews and whatnot, but I don't actually have a shred of ill will towards Judaism. It's this same sort of disconnection between what goes on in my head and what I say. Usually when I make such comments, it's because I don't have anything real to add, but still want to say something, even if it's total BS.

Sometimes I have trouble with realising that not everyone can tell what is my joking around or being serious.
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Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17

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so I won't do that. But do you guys seriously think that being a refugee is all sunshine and rainbows with guaranteed high quality of life and no stress?


As long as you're a member of a protected class and are in a bleeding heart country like Germany, Sweden and the UK, sure, why not. Benefits, ability to lie about your age for more bennies with no question and if someone does call you out on it there are hordes of natives willing to slit their own throats to defend you from the big mean racists.
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"refugees"

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Majority of "refugees" flooding into Europe are coming from countries that are not at war. They're economic migrants. And it sounds like the one's in the story were goaded into doing that by their parents, which isn't hard to believe at all. Give em a little smack on the face and see how fast they start moving


Lol yeah, those refugees have it so easy. There's nothing more easy in life than to have to forcibly leave your home with little to nothing to your name, deal with ptsd and other detriments to your mental health and then come to a new country and immediately get attacked by crybabies who think you're a "protected class" because you get a few benefits. Nothing easier in the world, I tell you what.
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lorreen wrote:

Once again I get to be disgusted by some of our forumers refusal to entertain even a sliver of a possibility of compassion.

Healthy skepticism and wanting to know more before completely accepting something as initially presented is understandable. What I find disturbing is the common attitudes of "I can't personally imagine myself feeling this way, so it must be fake" or "even if it's real they deserve to suffer."



Don't know about everyone else, but I will often talk out of my ass and say those kinds of things without meaning it. Not sure why I do it. I would say something similar to that, but in my mind, I would still think about the possibilities of it being real and what it would be like, even though I don't really believe it.

It's kind of similar to when I make racist jokes or similar. In particular, I tend to talk about killing Jews and whatnot, but I don't actually have a shred of ill will towards Judaism. It's this same sort of disconnection between what goes on in my head and what I say. Usually when I make such comments, it's because I don't have anything real to add, but still want to say something, even if it's total BS.

Sometimes I have trouble with realising that not everyone can tell what is my joking around or being serious.


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Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17

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well if they don't value life then I guess there would be no qualms putting them out of their misery


What the fuck dude? Put people to death for the unforgivable crime of having underwent severe trauma? Even as a joke that's disgusting.
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they are faking it genius. if you want sweden under sharia law thats your perogrative. As long as these Muslims continue to get into Europe. more people will die.
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they are faking it genius. if you want sweden under sharia law thats your perogrative. As long as these Muslims continue to get into Europe. more people will die.


I'd ask for proof for such an extreme claim as one that contradicts diagnoses from medical professionals but it's clear all I'll get is more mad ramblings from another fucking bigot.


lorreen wrote:

Once again I get to be disgusted by some of our forumers refusal to entertain even a sliver of a possibility of compassion.



You said it. How is it that these kinds of prejudicial attacks aren't blatant violations of the rule about posts being "appropriate for the comfort of a wide range of users."?
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Oct chill he is just flamebaiting you into catching another ban
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They should be happy their even allowed to be in sweden as according to human rights they should only be allowed to move to the closest country that is stable. So making demand and playing sick is just a fucked up thing to do for them
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They should be happy their even allowed to be in sweden as according to human rights they should only be allowed to move to the closest country that is stable. So making demand and playing sick is just a fucked up thing to do for them


Yes, clearly they are just "playing" sick. I mean sure, there are lots of doctors and other medical professionals who confirm the condition is legit, but some randy on the internet said they were just playing sick, so obviously he knows better than they do.
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Im surprised some of you can even remember to breath every now and then. All of the answers to your bigoted questions were right there in the article, including a well researched medical evaluation of their conditions.http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnbeh.2016.00007/full

It's not as if they wake up immediately upon hearing the news, and it's impossible to fake a coma condition for 2+ years as is the case for some of these children. I don't understand what it is that makes you believe that all these medical professionals have been fooled but some barely literate keyboard warrior goofballs from wherever the fuck USA have it all figured out. "Cuz dem mooslims." Ya know?

You probably also don't think broken heart syndrome (stress cardiomyopathy) is real, because you clearly don't understand compassion for another human being.

Final food for thought, this state of being has been discussed in regards to domestic abuse and other traumatic events for ages.
https://cryingoutforjustice.com/2013/12/19/emotional-coma-or-vegetative-depression/

Literally thousands of examples if you want to use your head, and you might even give a fuck about these people because they aren't Muslim.
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The line between compassion and being a pushover may be a fine one, but you have to find it otherwise your country will be completely fucked.

At this point, as long as they don't do anything violently destructive, I'd say letting the ones there assimilate into society would probably be your best bet. If a refugee commits rape or murder, treat them like a native who committed rape or murder. Crime is not something you should allow to be looked over because of compassion, but at the same time you might want the punishment to be equal and fitting.

Aside from that, Sweden and Germany really need to stop letting them in. Yeah, I know, compassion. But honestly, there are only so many refugees their countries can handle, and I think they may be reaching that limit if not passing it. They need to find that limit of "I'm sorry, but we can't give anymore without fucking ourselves over."
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Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17

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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

They should be happy their even allowed to be in sweden as according to human rights they should only be allowed to move to the closest country that is stable. So making demand and playing sick is just a fucked up thing to do for them


Yes, clearly they are just "playing" sick. I mean sure, there are lots of doctors and other medical professionals who confirm the condition is legit, but some randy on the internet said they were just playing sick, so obviously he knows better than they do.


Let me state again that their only allowed to immigrate into the closest country that is stable according to human rights. So they should've done that as that increases their chanses of being reunited with their past friends and family and getting to avoid this "sickness/depression". BUTTT NOOOOO let's not do that because Qatar and Saudi Arabia doesn't want people of other interpretations of islam into their countries regardless of if it's their right or not to get in. Turkey have however done a pretty good job by helped those in need, but their just using the refugees as a political bargain tool with the EU.

The left should've used their brains and pushed the UN to force Qatar and SA to take people in instead of preaching that we should "open our hearts" and take them into a part of the world where they from day one have 0 chances of ever immigrating properly or get a life that is meaningful. So regardless if I'm right or wrong doesn't matter as by going to Europe they've sealed their fate and because of this I find it hard to have any compation for these people who will be nothing but a plague for the already crumbling welfare state in most European countries.

Then there's also the fact that most of them are lying about their age and really aren't "children" as they say they are
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