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Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17
I have a weird reaction to anime like Toradora that I imagine not a lot of people share. So I was curious as to how this anime and anime like it affects others. The Sweet Rom-Com-esk Anime. As I'm about done with the series myself. Like most Rom-Coms it has me feeling deeply depressed at no fault of it own. Thank you for your time and I hope i broke no forum rules take it this I do believe is my first or the first topic or comment I've posted in a very long time.
Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17
Everyone gets post-show blues, if that's what you're talking about.
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Posted 6/18/17 , edited 6/18/17

HateKillingCamels wrote:

Everyone gets post-show blues, if that's what you're talking about.


No I get that ^^ The feeling is more so while watching such slice of life RomCom Anime. Just curious if anyone else could relate or if this is purely how I feel while watching such series.
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I have always enjoyed rom-com anime, particularly ones set in highschool because it seems like a time when you can still feasibly believe in true love etc. etc. before the real world rolls over that dream and crushes it. Media in the romance category has given my unreasonable expectations for love and relationships.In some ways watching rom-com reaffirms those unrealistic expectations, but the longer I go along the more I find myself looking at rom-com as an outlet for those desires.

So it is like a mental condition I soothe with more of its own cause. It is like an addiction I am trying to moderate with controlled helpings of my chosen posion. When I feel like I take away something special from a romance story, I feel good. There can be a "True perfect love is a BS notion, but it still has X value or still plays an important role in our lives" sort of message to a story. That feels good and feels like emotional growth. However, when a story leaves me having irrational thoughts like "Why can't I live a love story that amazing?" I certainly feel lower than before and I question why I bothered teasing myself.

Wish fulfillment story telling can often be an emotional dead end as it reaffirms the desirableness of an unlikely or impossible situation without giving you anymore reason to believe in the possibility of said situation.

For example I can think to myself, man, that would be cool if I could fly. But I can't fly so even imagining how fun it would be to fly is a little sad because I know it can never be more than just a thought of "Yea, that'd be nice." However, that bittersweet longing in the face of all that keeps it from being real is what makes life so sweet. I can't fly, but if I could I'd never long for it the way I do when I know I'll never be able to fly. Likewise, life is all the more sweet knowing that it is limited and fragile. That's my take away from rom-com. It can be a painful attempt to find actualization for our desires of a perfect love story, but it can also be a tool for reflecting on why we want what we want and how or if we can be happy.
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Usually, when I fall into a romance hole, I tend to watch a few shows back to back. If a romance doesn't satisfy me, it leaves me feeling empty afterward, so I have to watch another to fill that hole. Toradora though is one of my favorites, so it doesn't leave me with that "dissatisfied" feeling.
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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/21/17

AsukaAyanami wrote:

I have always enjoyed rom-com anime, particularly ones set in highschool because it seems like a time when you can still feasibly believe in true love etc. etc. before the real world rolls over that dream and crushes it. Media in the romance category has given my unreasonable expectations for love and relationships.In some ways watching rom-com reaffirms those unrealistic expectations, but the longer I go along the more I find myself looking at rom-com as an outlet for those desires.

So it is like a mental condition I soothe with more of its own cause. It is like an addiction I am trying to moderate with controlled helpings of my chosen posion. When I feel like I take away something special from a romance story, I feel good. There can be a "True perfect love is a BS notion, but it still has X value or still plays an important role in our lives" sort of message to a story. That feels good and feels like emotional growth. However, when a story leaves me having irrational thoughts like "Why can't I live a love story that amazing?" I certainly feel lower than before and I question why I bothered teasing myself.

Wish fulfillment story telling can often be an emotional dead end as it reaffirms the desirableness of an unlikely or impossible situation without giving you anymore reason to believe in the possibility of said situation.

For example I can think to myself, man, that would be cool if I could fly. But I can't fly so even imagining how fun it would be to fly is a little sad because I know it can never be more than just a thought of "Yea, that'd be nice." However, that bittersweet longing in the face of all that keeps it from being real is what makes life so sweet. I can't fly, but if I could I'd never long for it the way I do when I know I'll never be able to fly. Likewise, life is all the more sweet knowing that it is limited and fragile. That's my take away from rom-com. It can be a painful attempt to find actualization for our desires of a perfect love story, but it can also be a tool for reflecting on why we want what we want and how or if we can be happy.


I found your reply deep and full of thought and understanding. I would like to more deeply describe how Rom Com anime does affect me. Its like a double edge sword, when I'm watching one I am never more happy or sad in my life. I can find a story both fulfilling and depressing at the same time. The better the story is the more of a positive and negative affect it will have on me. Eventually I find myself in this loop of not being able to look away because the story pulls me in but every moment I watch i get closer and closer to a pit of sadness that can take days to get out. Anime can make me swoon and want to jump off a bridge at the same time. That might be why when I watch it I am never more entertained in my boring day to day life but I also avoid watching to much of it because its a serious risk to my longevity. It seems that though some people might be able to understand a few of the feelings I have with anime the whole package might be something only I really have to deal with lol Thank you for taking some time out of your day to reply to my silly little topic.(after taking a moment to compare my statement to the one above I would like to comment that I don't think anyone could describe how I feel more without knowing everything I just shared before hand. We might think more alike then I originally thought.)
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Only reason it left me a little depressed is because I always liked Minorin a lot better than Taiga.
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Only reason it left me a little depressed is because I always liked Minorin a lot better than Taiga.


I was always an Ami man myself

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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/21/17
Taiga is my spirit animal waifu.

The show itself got me down and up at the same time.

It's one of my favs simply due to the emotional pull it has both good and bad.
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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/21/17
Well, I did have my time as a teen when Love Hina was still relevant, if that counts for anything.

Probably not considering you could see the romance outcome from a mile away.

Eh, I dunno. Romcoms had way more of an effect on the young impressionable me, being so full of overwhelmingly complicated emotions about love and the like. A few of which I don't doubt were probably more to do with lust. lol

I can still appreciate, and hell, sympathize and connect with how some of those characters feel. Because I've been there. But at the same time, there's that tiny nagging emotional feeling of a disconnect between my life and theirs. But eh, that's life.

Also as a final thought, I should probably watch Toradora sometime. Maybe I'm actually missing out. lol
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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/21/17
God I loved this show, wished that Okami-San and Friends show ended like this, but nooo they "do but don't get together in the end" I'm surprised the studio hasn't announced anything new after all these years.
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Posted 6/21/17 , edited 6/21/17
I don't like romance/romantic comedy stories, never did, never got why other people do.

They just always seem really shallow to me. I feel like romance is just based on an artificial framework, and any insight that a romance story could have revolves around that framework, and doesn't break free of it. I ship couples in shows, but... I sort of don't want my ships to become canon except at the very end, because I don't like the way people talk about couples. This applies to m/f, m/m, f/f, whatever else ships equally.

For an example of what I mean by "the way people talk about couples," check Lelouch's monologue in the episode preview after R2 episode 12


I prefer it when characters have more important things to worry about, whether that's saving the world, putting on a show, ... doing the laundry, even. Something that really needs to be done, as opposed to an artificial zero-sum game.

Also, I generally ship pairings, but within a larger polyamorous group of almost the whole cast. Because the proper solution to a love triangle is an OT3. Or OT9, or OT12.
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Posted 6/21/17 , edited 6/21/17

PandaSamaBoi wrote:


SirBacon24 wrote:

Only reason it left me a little depressed is because I always liked Minorin a lot better than Taiga.


I was always an Ami man myself



Still better than Taiga
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SirBacon24 wrote:

Only reason it left me a little depressed is because I always liked Minorin a lot better than Taiga.


This^^^ I like Taiga but I just felt really bad for her.
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Posted 6/21/17 , edited 6/21/17
The ED song's lyrics describe the relationship very well. Sour-not-yet-sweet, consumed before it was time.
"Orange (オレンジ)" by Rie Kugimiya, Yui Horie, and Eri Kitamura

Had I bothered to learn those lyrics before then end, perhaps I wouldn't have been so sad.
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