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Posted 6/19/17 , edited 6/20/17
I am not sure of the worst than can happen in this specific case. We usually want to put strange or stressful events out of the picture to avoid kids having negative feelings or reactions, and in the aftermath, put it into context to alleviate their feelings from a painful confusion. That being said, I agree with the notions that some parents need to be proactive, and anime isn't an entirely a child friendly media, if Family Guy and such didn't make it clear cartoons weren't capable of inappropriateness.

On the other hand, I am not sure there is anything that needs to be done. While studies show aggressive media can make the easily influenced or already aggressive more "aggressive", it should also be noted that Japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the world.

A nice reminder to said parents may be nice, but you are right, it comes off as a moral pissing contest.

But I have no problem with teenage manga in libraries, although the cultural differences are quite high in terms of what is PG-13.
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Posted 6/19/17 , edited 6/20/17
Ultimately it is up to parents to decide what they want to let their kids watch/read until they're old enough to leave home, but I don't think that means we can't be concerned about our society and how it treats these things, or be concerned about what particular kids are getting into, particularly if their parents don't know (As others have mentioned, many people simply aren't aware that manga and anime are by no means all for kids). Porn, whatever form it's in, has some scary effects on the brain (as in, not only able to be seen through surveys of viewpoints and behaviors, but in brain scans), and kids aren't mature enough to be informed about all the consequences and implications of those kinds of things. Violence in media also has its own problems, and while certainly the world is cruel and sometimes hard decisions have to be made and violence committed in order to protect others, it's still something we should be careful of, especially for young kids who can't necessarily understand the weight of those things and the general unacceptableness of violence as a solution. So, I would definitely support some attention being paid to what we put in libraries that are specifically built for kids and youths, and encouraging parents to have some idea of what their children are getting into. Yes, kids these days will probably find some exposure to these things anyways, but that doesn't mean we can't do what we can to limit it and/or discuss the issues associated with such things with them. I won't pretend to know at what age it would be okay for a kid to watch/read a particular series or thing--it probably depends on the kid to some extent, as kids mature at different rates--but I don't think that precludes a discussion on general guidelines and discussions about these issues.
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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/20/17

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Would you bat an eye if a 12yo. boy was watching AoT or reading TG? I was watching serious horror movies at that age and earlier.

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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/20/17

Nogara-san wrote:

I've never read the AoT manga and I've only seen the first season so far, but when you got tweens watching things like GoT or Walking Dead, AoT or SAO or TG are probably nothing. But I'd probably would leave those titles more for high school.


I wouldn't want them watching SAO or WD either, but just because they're terrible.
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CronoT wrote:

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Would you bat an eye if a 12yo. boy was watching AoT or reading TG? I was watching serious horror movies at that age and earlier.



The gender of the child would make no difference in my concern. I laid it out as it all happened, then provided my viewpoint. It's called responsible journalism. I didn't try to affect anyone's opinion. I presented my own, then waited. I would have torn apart any purposely obnoxious redponses, but none came up.
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Posted 6/20/17 , edited 6/20/17
To think; in the Victorian era and earlier, it was common practice for fathers to take their 12 year-old boys to a brothel, for their "first time." Nevermind that; we have child soldiers today. Honestly, I'm not worried about kids reading things like AoT and such, especially given how tame they are in comparison to many other manga. I'd be more concerned with something akin to "Wolf Guy," which has multiple chapters of non-stop, graphic gang rape. Still, we live in an awfully cushy society, if manga is alarming.
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Really, I would be more concerned about Tokyo Ghoul, because it's terrible.
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The gender of the child would make no difference in my concern. I laid it out as it all happened, then provided my viewpoint. It's called responsible journalism. I didn't try to affect anyone's opinion. I presented my own, then waited. I would have torn apart any purposely obnoxious redponses, but none came up.


It's interesting what people consider "age appropriate". As far as I can tell, it reflects their own experience more than anything else. I'd personally be far more comfortable with a twelve year old watching AoT than Tsugumomo, for example.
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Posted 6/15/18 , edited 6/15/18
I personally wouldn't care...as long as that manga or anime isn't influencing the child yeah it's fine....
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So, I was at Church today, & sitting in the Congregation Area after the Sermon ended, I overheard a young girl talking about Attack on Titan. She also pulled a Tokyo Ghoul large manga volume out of her bag. So, I asked her how old she was. She told me she was twelve. I was SO TEMPTED to ask where her parents were, to make sure they knew about the kinds of manga & anime their daughter was getting into. But, I held my peace, because I didn't want to expect a pissing match in Church.

That leads into the topic I wanted to discuss: I'm seeing more & more teen & even mature aged manga in middle & elementary school libraries. I'm not a prude by any means, but I really don't think that stuff like Attack on Titan & other mature stuff should be that easily accessible by children.

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Attack on Titan and Tokyo Ghoul are both Shounen demographic manga. That target demographic is 12 and up. So working as intended.

Edit: Now that I think about it I believe some of the Tokyo ghoul series are seinen and some are shounen. So I guess it would depend on the series.

AoT is definitely a shounen however. Basically it just boils down to the fact that demographics and appropriate themes are just different in Japan. Stuff becomes "mature content" when the themes start being focused on realism over idealism rather than differing criteria in the west.

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Posted 6/15/18 , edited 6/15/18

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So, I was at Church today, & sitting in the Congregation Area after the Sermon ended, I overheard a young girl talking about Attack on Titan. She also pulled a Tokyo Ghoul large manga volume out of her bag. So, I asked her how old she was. She told me she was twelve. I was SO TEMPTED to ask where her parents were, to make sure they knew about the kinds of manga & anime their daughter was getting into. But, I held my peace, because I didn't want to expect a pissing match in Church.

That leads into the topic I wanted to discuss: I'm seeing more & more teen & even mature aged manga in middle & elementary school libraries. I'm not a prude by any means, but I really don't think that stuff like Attack on Titan & other mature stuff should be that easily accessible by children.

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Ultimately it is up to each parent to determine what is appropriate for their kids to read, although in the age of smart phones pretty much any kid who has one or knows somebody that does has access to an unlimited library of the nastiest most depraved media content man has created at the tips of their fingertips. Attack on Titan and even Tokyo Ghoul are relatively tame compared to some of the stuff out there on the web which includes lovely stuff like snuff and rape videos.

It's not really one's place to butt into the private affairs of what strangers are doing unless they are causing harm to others. Getting the kid's parents involved will likely accomplish little but make the kid and or parents resent you and the kid very distrusting of others in her church since she will then understand they are the sort of nosy people she must be wary of in the future. Even if your involvement did result in a fight between the kid and her parents, the odds are she wouldn't stop reading her comics anyway even after the parents forbid it. She would most likely just start hiding it.

Basically, it really isn't your place to narc on a kid about reading comics and even if you did so there would be a high chance of some form of negative outcome.
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Posted 6/15/18 , edited 6/15/18

AsahinaInu wrote:
Edit: Now that I think about it I believe some of the Tokyo ghoul series are seinen and some are shounen. So I guess it would depend on the series.
Weekly Young Jump is a seinen magazine
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AsahinaInu wrote:
Edit: Now that I think about it I believe some of the Tokyo ghoul series are seinen and some are shounen. So I guess it would depend on the series.
Weekly Young Jump is a seinen magazine
Yeah I had to double check myself. The main series is seinen, but there was a shounen spin off. Some series are just kind of hard to tell.

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Boku no Pico was meant for mature adults with impeccable taste.
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This is some serious necromancy right here.

In any case, I can honestly say with confidence if you were to be that judgemental with my non-existent daughter you would really piss me off, and I would say things one shouldn't say in church. For starters, that girl is the target age for Attack on Titan. Second, people mature at different times. If she was reading some shit like Ulysses would you harp on her for reading a book not age appropriate? Is it just because there's violence? In which case do you think a mentally well twelve year old is so stupid that they'll be heavily influenced by fiction? Anime/manga, of all things?

Can we not pretend that teenagers with a reasonable mind just soak up violence and replicate it in real life, because it's legitimately insulting to them. The issue is if you just neglect them and let them learn life only through fiction, but that level of terrible parenting isn't just a case of letting a young teen read or watch something graphic. Reading violent stuff isn't the automatic formula to creating serial killers, or rapists, or just general societal scum. That's the result of shitty parenting, bad neighborhoods, a bad group of friends, or just a mix of a whole bunch of stuff that would make for a very troubled childhood. And at twelve, yeah, sure, they're still learning, but they're not babbling idiots who have no sense of right and wrong. That's just insanely ridiculous.
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