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Belgium has a serious problem with the whole segregation / radicalization dynamic. Practically every other attacker or would be attacker makes a stop off in Belgium at some point. It sends more fighters to Syria per capita than any other country in the EU. It's a complete mess and Belgium seems routinely baffled as to what to do about it. Their police suck, their security sucks and their politicians basically exploited the entire thing for votes.

http://www.politico.eu/article/attack-on-paris-molenbeek-dirty-dozen/

Its not even just terrorists either. Weapon and drug smuggling, mafia, you name it its going through Belgium to the rest of the EU. >.>


Their police are used to their people obeying the laws and having a pretty culturally similar society that doesn't clash. Their police are very light handed and not trained to take on the challenges of mass immigration or refugees. Their police are going to have to get tougher and rougher unfortunately.
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Man, you know you are in an internet argument when you have to bust one of these out.


That could quite literally apply to either side of this argument.
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Their police are used to their people obeying the laws and having a pretty culturally similar society that doesn't clash. Their police are very light handed and not trained to take on the challenges of mass immigration or refugees. Their police are going to have to get tougher and rougher unfortunately.


Their police and government are a fractured mess and this problem has been brewing for them for decades in no small part due to their own politicians taking advantage of it. Mass immigration doesn't have much to do with it. This started long before the current refugee crisis.

Read that article.
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Rujikin wrote:
Their police are used to their people obeying the laws and having a pretty culturally similar society that doesn't clash. Their police are very light handed and not trained to take on the challenges of mass immigration or refugees. Their police are going to have to get tougher and rougher unfortunately.


Their police and government are a fractured mess and this problem has been brewing for them for decades in no small part due to their own politicians taking advantage of it. Mass immigration doesn't have much to do with it. This started long before the current refugee crisis.

Read that article.


Fuck man its far worse than I've heard. I've heard about their ineffective police but this is just... wow....
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Fuck man its far worse than I've heard. I've heard about their ineffective police but this is just... wow....


Indeed. Too many cooks in the kitchen and no one learned you don't throw water on a grease fire.

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Rujikin wrote:
Fuck man its far worse than I've heard. I've heard about their ineffective police but this is just... wow....


Indeed. Too many cooks in the kitchen and no one learned you don't throw water on a grease fire.



At this point I think they are throwing grease on a grease fire <_<;;

Its like a race to the bottom over there.
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I've not seen a single person ever defend a terrorist as "just trying to spread their culture" or condemn police for shooting a terrorist so unless you have examples of this I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore your crap since I think I've about had my fill with contrarian crybabies for the day.


I could get more but I'm not sure you will even care: http://www.cufi.org.uk/news/israeli-policeman-shoots-and-kills-jordanian-terrorist-who-stabbed-him/

I could get 100 links easily... if I had the time.


Fair enough. I did miss that bit of news.
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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:
Man, you know you are in an internet argument when you have to bust one of these out.


That could quite literally apply to either side of this argument.

Orly? So, me posting a quote, article, or video of RI apologism is an anectdote?

Nope, don't think it is.
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octorockandroll wrote:


I've not seen a single person ever defend a terrorist as "just trying to spread their culture" or condemn police for shooting a terrorist so unless you have examples of this I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore your crap since I think I've about had my fill with contrarian crybabies for the day.


....His sarcastic comment clearly flew right over your head then. My apologies, I overestimated you a little bit.

"I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore your crap since I think I've about had my fill with contrarian crybabies for the day."

I think I'm getting iron poisoning from all this irony.


Yes, because when I note that something is sarcastic and ask what that thing is sarcastically mocking clearly that means I missed the fact that it was sarcastic.



You're right about over estimating me though, I made the assumption that you could understand english properly. That was a mistake I won't repeat again so you have my apologies.
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Fair enough. I did miss that bit of news.


That would be because he had to go all the way to Israel and Jordan for it. I mean its not like there's 100 other possible reasons for Jews and Arabs in the Middle East to be swiping at each other that have little to do with the incident in question. One of which is pretty clearly indicated in the language of the Jordanian statement when it refers to "occupied". i mean, it's not like Israel and Jordan fought a war over this and Israel occupied then annexed East Jerusalem where this happened.

No, its totally just apologists and refugees or something. -.-



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Orly? So, me posting a quote, article, or video of RI apologism is an anectdote?

Nope, don't think it is.


Actually, yes, it would be by the very definition you're pointing to.
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Fair enough. I did miss that bit of news.


That would be because he had to go all the way to Israel and Jordan for it. I mean its not like there's 100 other possible reasons for Jews and Arabs in the Middle East to be swiping at each other that have little to do with the incident in question. One of which is pretty clearly indicated in the language of the Jordanian statement when it refers to "occupied". i mean, it's not like Israel and Jordan fought a war over this and Israel occupied then annexed East Jerusalem where this happened.

No, its totally just apologists and refugees or something. -.-



That's also fair but people are still using the words red was mocking in her original post, even if there still isn't anyone who actually thinks it without sone sort of nationality based prejudice.
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That's also fair but people are still using the words red was mocking in her original post, even if there still isn't anyone who actually thinks it without sone sort of nationality based prejudice.


Well, no, the words being used were basically "this is your fault because you're occupying the territory it happened in". That's completely different than what either of them were on about and both are different from what Dark linked.

It is, to put a spin on it again, an anecdote.
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Posted 6/21/17

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That's also fair but people are still using the words red was mocking in her original post, even if there still isn't anyone who actually thinks it without sone sort of nationality based prejudice.


Well, no, the words being used were basically "this is your fault because you're occupying the territory it happened in". That's completely different than what either of them were on about and both are different from what Dark linked.

It is, to put a spin on it again, an anecdote.


Yeah... You've got me there.
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Actually, yes, it would be by the very definition you're pointing to.

Sorry, no. An anecdote is representing your personal experience as support for an argument. It is the very opposite of citing an actual example of said argument.

But I digress here. If you seriously don't know what an anecdote is, there is always google-senpai for you. I know research is hard for you though, so I'll even help start you off on your brand new learning adventure.
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