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Would it be beneficial to society and the citizenship if every person of working age was required to register with a national jobs directory that would be able to place them with the jobs most suited to their skillsets?
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Would it be beneficial to society and the citizenship if every person of working age was required to register with a national jobs directory that would be able to place them with the jobs most suited to their skillsets?


I don't believe so. There's more people like me than I'd care to admit - those who have an almost endless array of professional skills. I'm a certified mechanic, certified network administrator, a member of the ACF (American Culinary Federation), have my CPA license, have a master's degree in mathematics, a bachelor's degree in computer science, worked on a farm while growing up, and done numerous types of part-time/full-time jobs since I was a teenager. Those who simply grow up either uncertain as to what they want to do or simply get bored fo knowing something and proceed to another category or field altogether wouldn't really mesh well in such a scenario.

Plus, it would end up causing a government-powered workforce - which isn't really required and most businesses would get bothered by the government interjecting into their hiring practices.
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Do NOT want. I don't want certain jobs even if I would be good with them. I will do the jobs I am good at and WANT to do.

Theres a reason why communism always failed to produce goods as efficiently as in capitalist societies.
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Rujikin wrote:

Do NOT want. I don't want certain jobs even if I would be good with them. I will do the jobs I am good at and WANT to do.

Theres a reason why communism always failed to produce goods as efficiently as in capitalist societies.


Because people do not want to work for free or when there is no benefit over others or if it's a job they don't want.

No shit the only way communism can work is if work forces were 100% machine xD which won't even happen for way over 100 years.
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I'm not really ok with anyone other then myself deciding how I earn my living. What if the government decides my skills are best used in a field i hate, or morally object to?

On top of that, no government can be free of bias, corruption, or incompetence. People will get screwed over because the registry agent was bigoted (a la "That's a man's job" or "I don't want any (insert racial slur here)s working in important jobs"); people not fit for a career will "buy" their way in with bribes and in doing so take someone who is a good fit's spot; and then you'd get "oops, seems we've made a clerical error and mixed up an ivy league graduate and a community college dropout. We should probably call the hospital and tell them their new neurosurgeon should be flipping burgers, and that somewhere out there is the world's most over qualified fry cook."
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I don't like the sound of that, rather work a job I like.
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No.

I'd probably get placed as a writer instead of an engineer, and writers don't earn nearly as much.

A lot of times I look at some "tech news sites" on the web and think how lousy all these hacks write, but then again they probably don't get paid much for those click bait articles either.
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Absolutely not. I would never want someone having that much control over what they believe I should or should not do for employment. Given my very broad skill set, I would much rather be the one who chooses where I am employed.
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Everyone seems to be taking this to mean "you must take whatever job the system pairs you with". That's not the impression I was given, rather you were simply required to sign up with it. I don't think it should be *required* but it should be something encouraged and made accessible to people (sort of like how in high school, they'll have a session to help you plan your next step after you graduate, but less education oriented and more just aimed at matching people with jobs easily.) We already use systems to do exactly this. LinkedIn is the most popular, and it's very helpful. A nationally maintained one could be a helpful project, assuming we can keep it cheap and effective. Databases don't take too many people to maintain, though this kind would be quite large, depending on the country you're in. I think it's a good idea.
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gornotck wrote:

Would it be beneficial to society and the citizenship if every person of working age was required to register with a national jobs directory that would be able to place them with the jobs most suited to their skillsets?


I don't believe so. There's more people like me than I'd care to admit - those who have an almost endless array of professional skills. I'm a certified mechanic, certified network administrator, a member of the ACF (American Culinary Federation), have my CPA license, have a master's degree in mathematics, a bachelor's degree in computer science, worked on a farm while growing up, and done numerous types of part-time/full-time jobs since I was a teenager. Those who simply grow up either uncertain as to what they want to do or simply get bored fo knowing something and proceed to another category or field altogether wouldn't really mesh well in such a scenario.

Plus, it would end up causing a government-powered workforce - which isn't really required and most businesses would get bothered by the government interjecting into their hiring practices.


no actual certifications, but can attest to simply learning fucktons and having held a plethora of odd hats and jobs...

It's not even boredom. It's just that sometimes what you excel at isn't what you want to do. Skill does not equate happiness.

Aaaaaaaand wages. It would really suck if you were considered absolutely brilliant at being a McDonalds fry cook...

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Everyone seems to be taking this to mean "you must take whatever job the system pairs you with". That's not the impression I was given, rather you were simply required to sign up with it. I don't think it should be *required* but it should be something encouraged and made accessible to people (sort of like how in high school, they'll have a session to help you plan your next step after you graduate, but less education oriented and more just aimed at matching people with jobs easily.) We already use systems to do exactly this. LinkedIn is the most popular, and it's very helpful. A nationally maintained one could be a helpful project, assuming we can keep it cheap and effective. Databases don't take too many people to maintain, though this kind would be quite large, depending on the country you're in. I think it's a good idea.


I also didn't read gornotck's description as requiring people to take their suggested job, but I think it's a bad idea anyway. Because creating such a thing would require experts to decide what data was relevant for each job, and once someone is given the power to make that decision, what they decide becomes the standard. Just by creating a database we'd redefine who should be hired for what job - this is true of Linkedin as well. And giving it to government would mean that the semi-arbitrary definitions of a panel of experts removed from the facts on the ground would become de-facto law.

And I'm not sure why the government needs to be doing this anyway. Even if the government built managed housing for all the homeless, that'd still be much less socially intrusive than a job/skills database.
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Are you suited for this job? yes .
Do you want to do it? no.
Welcome to post modern job market.
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Maybe not mandatory, but I think it would be a good voluntary program for the unemployed who want a job but can't find one. At that point most people don't care what job they get, as long as it pays the bills.
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I also didn't read gornotck's description as requiring people to take their suggested job, but I think it's a bad idea anyway. Because creating such a thing would require experts to decide what data was relevant for each job, and once someone is given the power to make that decision, what they decide becomes the standard. Just by creating a database we'd redefine who should be hired for what job - this is true of Linkedin as well. And giving it to government would mean that the semi-arbitrary definitions of a panel of experts removed from the facts on the ground would become de-facto law.

And I'm not sure why the government needs to be doing this anyway. Even if the government built managed housing for all the homeless, that'd still be much less socially intrusive than a job/skills database.


I see what you're saying. Humoring the idea, I'd say those standards for any position are already arbitrarily set by *someone*. I think that if it's comprehensive enough, it would in theory be something that the employer could customize. In other words, the system wouldn't say "you're fit for bartending, because a group of experts has narrowed down that the optimal bartender has these skills, and therefore we will pair you with any bartending jobs available", as much as a company would input the qualities and qualifications they're looking for into their job postings, as a job board, and the system would simply react as "oh, this company has a job open that fits your resume in here, we have a close 'match" and then it would notify you with a list of such jobs of any occupation that your resume compliments and making it easy for you to sift through what you'd be a good fit for. As long as qualifications and the standards of each position are left open to the employer to fill themselves, I don't think it would be for making broad sweeping generalizations of a position, something much more simple and practical. In essence, the system wouldn't care if it was offering you a job as a secretary or an IT engineer, it just cares if there's a match in your skill set to what this employer is looking for. I think it would therefore be low regulation and just a useful platform to connect people.

I don't think the government would need to do it per say, but a lot of time in job hunting is spent looking down endless lists of positions of all kinds anyways, it could lead to a more efficient job search process, which is beneficial to everyone with jobs being so high in demand these days. At the very least, it's good to keep an open mind and discuss honest suggestions like we're doing now.
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Screw that shit, I should be able to choose the wrong path and trash my own life if I want to. Plus, some people don't enjoy doing what they are good at. Anytime I see that "better for society" crap, I always think it is bullshit. A society that feels the need to control its citizens' lives to that degree is already a failure and betters no one. Governments should serve the people, not the other way around.
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