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Posted 6/25/17 , edited 6/25/17

octorockandroll wrote:
"Ha! Stupid liberals, thinking just because Trump is under investigation for something means he committed a crime."

"Bernie Sanders is under investigation? Clearly he's committed a crime!"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

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this is very old news. speaking of allegations, in addition to being an acknowledged sexual predator, is Trump also an incestuous pedophile?
And here we have the President~to~be and his lovely daughter sharing a ... um what ... the actual fuck
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Rujikin wrote:

I guess I misjudged Bernie. I knew he was a socialist but I figured he was a trustworthy one. I suppose no socialist is trustworthy as is the stereotype... Dammit Democrats why do you disappoint me at every turn, can't believe I was one of you at one point.


That's not quite right. Rather, Jane Sanders, and only Jane Sanders, is currently under federal investigation for bank fraud. Bernie Sanders is only possibly under investigation for someone in his office (not even necessarily him) allegedly trying to help get that loan with inappropriate suggestions. He's gotten counsel, but that may only be because he is facing allegations of misconduct and wants to proceed as best is possible. The fact that he doesn't talk about the case much is being taken as evidence of guilt by a press that's all too eager to crucify him, but that's what you're supposed to do when you're facing such allegations: shut up and let your counselor steer things. Donald Trump would do well for himself to start doing the same, frankly.

And Politico, Politico, has had to admit that evidence against Sanders is apparently scant and the allegations against him seem overblown. When a key part of the beltway Democratic press, which has been trying to drive Sanders out of the spotlight for more than a year now, is indicating that there's probably not much there you know it's probably going to amount to somewhere between jack and shit.
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BlueOni wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

I guess I misjudged Bernie. I knew he was a socialist but I figured he was a trustworthy one. I suppose no socialist is trustworthy as is the stereotype... Dammit Democrats why do you disappoint me at every turn, can't believe I was one of you at one point.


That's not quite right. Rather, Jane Sanders, and only Jane Sanders, is currently under federal investigation for bank fraud. Bernie Sanders is only possibly under investigation for someone in his office (not even necessarily him) allegedly trying to help get that loan with inappropriate suggestions. He's gotten counsel, but that may only be because he is facing allegations of misconduct and wants to proceed as best is possible. The fact that he doesn't talk about the case much is being taken as evidence of guilt by a press that's all too eager to crucify him, but that's what you're supposed to do when you're facing such allegations: shut up and let your counselor steer things. Donald Trump would do well for himself to start doing the same, frankly.

And Politico, Politico, has had to admit that evidence against Sanders is apparently scant and the allegations against him seem overblown. When a key part of the beltway Democratic press, which has been trying to drive Sanders out of the spotlight for more than a year now, is indicating that there's probably not much there you know it's probably going to amount to somewhere between jack and shit.


Ah I see. Fucking CBS article. So hard to find accurate reporting nowadays.

You and I both know Trump will not shut up. Getting Trump to shut up is like trying to make clouds stop raining.
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Rujikin wrote:

Ah I see. Fucking CBS article. So hard to find accurate reporting nowadays.

You and I both know Trump will not shut up. Getting Trump to shut up is like trying to make clouds stop raining.


It really is. The Washington Post, The New York Times, Politico, CBS/ABC/NBC, FOX, BBC, Sky, TYT, you've got to read and watch pretty much everything to get an idea of anything, and even then it's best to fact check by directly reading legislation, looking at donor lists, and examining roll calls for votes of interest. It's exhausting. Necessary, but exhausting.

That's true. Can't argue with that.
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Of course, having been charged with crimes that I didn't do, I am well aware that investigations pretty much mean nothing in themselves.
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clean guy ? the communist old geezer like to demand people paying their fair share every time he got in front of the camera or stage. i think some people here like CNN and huffpost so..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/15/politics/bernie-sanders-jane-sanders-taxes/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-tax-return_us_5711836be4b0060ccda3634e

13.5% ? i work as a contractor and making 1/3 of the salary listed in the article and i'm paying 27% on my income tax.

fair share ? let's start with comrade Bernie



there's no such thing as a clean politician every single one of them has skeletons in the closet.

i'm sure Bernie's worshipers will claim that his tax rate is blah blah and that he is perfect with no flaws... like the worshipers of the crooked hag--

2016 was a horrible year.. the 3 best candidates we ended up with were Trump, Hillary and Bernie ? they were the best America had to offer


anyway.. since this is comrade Bernie's thread.. so let's put him on the dissect table

so he and his wife made around 200K a year and yet they are paying 13.5% for income tax..ok.. let's consider all the credits and deductions

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions

i'm guessing comrade Bernie is getting 1040 and not 1099 like us contractors.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

It's illegal to acquire someone's tax returns without their permission (unless you are CNN or MSNBC) but i do want to know what credits and deductions he and his wife were qualified for to get it down to 13.5%

I'll use the most current tax brackets
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx


maybe he also has a foundation somewhere like the Clintons

If this communist guy is running for president in a few years.. i'm sure we will pull out all kind of skeletons from this guy closet then.
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Oh the irony.
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If hiring a lawyer means you are guilty, then why isn't Trump in jail right now?

Oh and as for Bernie's tax returns... derp
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-return-222041
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Hmm, if true, definitely serious. But the dude that started the allegations also has pretty clear ulterior motives. I'll wait and see what the FBI has to say about it.



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And here we have the President~to~be and his lovely daughter sharing a ... um what ... the actual fuck


Do not open the "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd probably be dating her" box. Its creepy as fark.
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there's no such thing as a clean politician every single one of them has skeletons in the closet.

i'm sure Bernie's worshipers will claim that his tax rate is blah blah and that he is perfect with no flaws... like the worshipers of the crooked hag--

2016 was a horrible year.. the 3 best candidates we ended up with were Trump, Hillary and Bernie ? they were the best America had to offer


anyway.. since this is comrade Bernie's thread.. so let's put him on the dissect table

so he and his wife made around 200K a year and yet they are paying 13.5% for income tax..ok.. let's consider all the credits and deductions

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions

i'm guessing comrade Bernie is getting 1040 and not 1099 like us contractors.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

It's illegal to acquire someone's tax returns without their permission (unless you are CNN or MSNBC) but i do want to know what credits and deductions he and his wife were qualified for to get it down to 13.5%

I'll use the most current tax brackets
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx


maybe he also has a foundation somewhere like the Clintons

If this communist guy is running for president in a few years.. i'm sure we will pull out all kind of skeletons from this guy closet then.



He ran against the Clinton the last time so they brought his tax to the spotlight .. notice how they keep gnawing at Trump's tax like a hungry dog who wouldn't let go of a bone.

as a contractor, i'm very curious how these politicians are paying less tax than me, especially this communist geezer who keep shouting out "pay your fair share"

I deduct pretty much everything i can legally.. so there's got to be something else... The thing is if he is running for president in a few years CNN or MSNBC will never pull his tax that is for sure. They will protect him and disregard any challenge/request for the guy to release his taxes..

I'm still curious about the more recent tax returns for Trump as well, but i guess just 2 pages from 2005 was all they got ? You people are gnawing at it for months !! and all you got was that he paid 25% in tax ? The guy didn't reveal it at the beginning of the show either! He dragged on for 20+ minutes before stating that we only got 2 pages !!

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I'm still curious about the more recent tax returns for Trump as well, but i guess just 2 pages from 2005 was all they got ? You people are gnawing at it for months !! and all you got was that he paid 25% in tax ? The guy didn't reveal it at the beginning of the show either! He dragged on for 20+ minutes before stating that we only got 2 pages !!



guy ? you are talking about this person ?

i think it's a woman


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If hiring a lawyer means you are guilty, then why isn't Trump in jail right now?

Oh and as for Bernie's tax returns... derp
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-tax-return-222041


It's a political smear campaign, just like Hillary and the emails, it will lead to absolutely nothing.
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Hmm, if true, definitely serious. But the dude that started the allegations also has pretty clear ulterior motives. I'll wait and see what the FBI has to say about it.



ad_arbitrium wrote:
And here we have the President~to~be and his lovely daughter sharing a ... um what ... the actual fuck


Do not open the "If Ivanka weren't my daughter I'd probably be dating her" box. Its creepy as fark.


Trump has only been president for six months, and he has already sexually harassed two women. The first was when he made comments about the breast size of Shinzo Abe's female translator, the second was recently to a reporter from Ireland who he said had a "nice smile." Any one who does not wear a MAGA hat or deplorable t-shirt would recognize those things as sexual harassment.
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