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It was trending in that direction long before Trump was elected.


Guess i dont really know. Being in the land down under and all. But i had the impression that the economy was going in the wrong direction?
I dont follow American politics that much though. My old man is a politics nut though..
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Guess i dont really know. Being in the land down under and all. But i had the impression that the economy was going in the wrong direction?
I dont follow American politics that much though. My old man is a politics nut though..


The US economy has been steadily, if somewhat slowly, improving since ~2010.
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Guess i dont really know. Being in the land down under and all. But i had the impression that the economy was going in the wrong direction?
I dont follow American politics that much though. My old man is a politics nut though..


Americans tend to be very paranoid about the economy. We're generally hesitant to believe any good news, even when it's obviously true.
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geauxtigers1989 wrote:


It was trending in that direction long before Trump was elected.


Guess i dont really know. Being in the land down under and all. But i had the impression that the economy was going in the wrong direction?
I dont follow American politics that much though. My old man is a politics nut though..


when talking about the economy, trends kinda stay in one path for about 9 months-a year into a new presidency depending how stable they were the last regime. believe it or not, the economy donesnt just magially get better by the wave of the presidents hand. it took a lot of work for Obama to get the economy back to where it is today as the best in the world

like if you look at Obama's record in a vacuum, you'd think he had the worst start of any presidency ever when talking job loss, but everyone knew it was the recession that Bus put us in, and by 2010 all the way to 2017, Obama had us in the positives.

Now Trump is in, theres a chance he continues what Obama does and by 2018 theres still a lot of growth in the job sector, keeping people employed, but seeing Trump's track record, he wont continue anything obama has done, and as jobs start to stagnate, thats when you know Trumps policies really taking effect
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Well i've been educated.
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Black unemployment seems to be following the overall trend, good.

As for the topic of the economy. I view the Obama presidency in a good light overall. I think the ACA's Medicaid expansion was great while other aspects such as the uninsured penalty had an inflating effect on insurance. I'm still a bit miffed over him championing whistleblower protection and then calling Snowden a traitor even after it was shown that the whistleblower policy in place was ineffective. On the privacy front he gets a bad rep due to the NSA scandal overall, but remember this is Bush era policy coming back to bite us.

Going forward I'm both apprehensive and excited for the Trump presidency. His bullishness and Russian propaganda are a nice shot of dissent into the populace. A healthy level of dissent should help prevent any more disasters like the Patriot Act. On the downside I am discouraged by the growing racial and religious tension. There are ways to dissent non-violently and without hatred. Step it up!
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MrAnimeSK wrote:


geauxtigers1989 wrote:


It was trending in that direction long before Trump was elected.


Guess i dont really know. Being in the land down under and all. But i had the impression that the economy was going in the wrong direction?
I dont follow American politics that much though. My old man is a politics nut though..


It was improving but most of the new jobs being created were part time jobs. Employers want to keep people under a certain number of hours to prevent having to deal with Obamacare. During the election I heard of a lot of businesses holding off on hiring till they knew the results. If one candidate won they were saying they would not hire more or lay off and if the other candidate won they would be hiring more people, same with the stock market.

Also the measurement the USA uses for unemployment will measure a person working 5 hours as being employed. So you have to look into the numbers to get a real idea of what's going on. We have a problem with people having to work two part time jobs because no one wants full timers or legal citizens.
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It was improving but most of the new jobs being created were part time jobs. Employers want to keep people under a certain number of hours to prevent having to deal with Obamacare. During the election I heard of a lot of businesses holding off on hiring till they knew the results. If one candidate won they were saying they would not hire more or lay off and if the other candidate won they would be hiring more people, same with the stock market.

Also the measurement the USA uses for unemployment will measure a person working 5 hours as being employed. So you have to look into the numbers to get a real idea of what's going on. We have a problem with people having to work two part time jobs because no one wants full timers or legal citizens.


Yeah the same sort of thing is happening here. Fulltime jobs are becoming less common and in some areas appear to be becoming a thing of the past.
I cant talk on Obamacare because here in Australia we have medi care and it is fucking great (basically free medical cover for all).

That sort of reminds of here in Australia, the illegal boat people, when our Liberal government(funnily enough they're not like your liberals, they're actually more right wing) are in power the boats stop, but when the Labor party get back in (they're more left and green and were known to be more for the common working man, give more hand outs, etc) the boats all start coming back.

Yes, same thing here mate. The government dose the same thing to give a semi false statistic for the national unemployment levels.
I think its the same, if someone works five hours a week they're not considered unemployed. Even though that's not nearly enough to live off or to sustain yourself.
But people who only work those sort of hours will also recieve government aid (dole money).

Yeah similar here in some areas. No fulltime work and some people cant get enough hours or on going work so need to work multiple jobs. Also here come companies will get incentives if the employ Africans or Indians and etc, basically immigrants and people over here on work visa and etc.

Of course some people are happy to work bugger all. Lots of women only work part time. I mean as far as in many situations with a married couple.

Iam not really sure of the statistics of black workers and non workers here. I dont think the unemployement of Aboriginals is AS high as it seems or that you would expect. Is high though.
But with the government aid that they do get you sort of cant blame them. It's sort of being done as sorry for your land being stolen i guess. Would be good to seem better themselves on a higher level though. As far as success and employment.

Slightly on topic, my state has the highest unemployment in the nation and it's about to get worse. We need a Trump. The manufacturing is about to be almost completely gone in this country once all the auto motive is shut.




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I once find a statistics from Case and Deaton (2015) for mortality rates in US. It show that the blacks have made improvement over the last decade. but that the mortality rate for white with little education rose slightly over the same time. The increased mortality rate of uneducated whites could not be explained by economic productivity as shown in this article below:

https://www.aei.org/publication/october-2-is-manufacturing-day-so-lets-recognize-americas-world-class-manufacturing-sector-and-factory-workers/

If mortality rate is a good indicator of unemployment rates, then Trump win the election with the support of less educated whites and he is likely counteracting the globalization of the economy which will allow re-employment of many whites people with little education.
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What the article fails to mention is whether these jobs have been created in the private or public sector.
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Runec: I never included the political parts. I removed something that perhaps you were interpreting as political so we can move past partisan politics and instead be happy about the low unemployment levels. No such luck. Seems your just here to start a partisan fight.


A) You still linked the article. On Breitbart. One of the most partisan sources possible.
B) The part you removed was about Obama.
C) What other possible interpretation is there when you link farking Breitbart?


You could have simply linked directly to data itself. But that would have shown that this is an ongoing trend that began long before Trump and revealed this is a non-story. When you view the data beyond the time scope of Trump's presidency it shows a consistent recovery under Obama and as a result of his administration. But if you do that, you can't hang a partisan bullshit article on it like Breitbart did.

This article exists solely to repeat some Obama critical quotes and footnote it with an implication that somehow Trump is responsible.

So don't try and turn this on anyone else.
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I'm suppose to care... why?
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Rujikin ~ This topic is about unemployment levels for "black" Americans.
unemployment levels for "black" Americans


for "black" Americans


"black"







"black"








... what you believe ≠ what you say. and it's weird.
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MrAnimeSK wrote:

Was talking with my old man earlier. Seems things are going good in America under Trump.
Lowering unemployment, improved economy, strong dollar, etc

I reckon we need some yanks to come here to Australia to help us out with getting Aborigines into more work. I see Māoris and Africans working but not many Aborigines.
Send Trump down! lol nar i dunno maybe send down some succesfull African Americans to tutor and inspire.
Our governemt and the people themselves aren't making any progess in the matter.
Thank god alot of them are great at Australian football.



... due to the history of Australia and the Aborigines I will avoid making the comment that immediately came to mind because I don't want to get banned. But hey, feel free to read up on the history of aboriginal treatment at the hands of the Australian government.
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