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Genuine lgbt question
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Posted 6/26/17 , edited 6/26/17
To me, if a man gets a sex change to become a lesbian that is fairly weird to me. Because it means that he is attracted to females. You would think that if he were attracted to females that he would be happy being a man?
If he were gay he could just stay a man and be gay with other males. Or change into a women and be with males. But he's not attracted to males so?...
This is where it gets weird and confusing and makes me wonder if the gay or transgender person is just confused or mentally ill?

Eh i dunno. All(well most) males like watching girls kiss other girls, lesbian porn, yuri, etc and we've all had the thought that "if i were a woman i'd be a lesbian" because we're not gay.
But to change your sex to be with lesbian girls rather than stay man to be with heterosexual girls seems weird as fuck to me?

I even find alot of real life lesbians (usually not like the ones in porn made for mens viewing) to be a bit strange when one of them is the man of the relationship. Like one of them is butch and tough looking with a mans hair cut and dresses like a man.
So why is the other more feminine looking girl who you would think if lesbian would be attracted to other more feminine looking girls be with a girl who looks and acts alot like a male?
This seems strange to me. I guess it's not unusal for there to be a dominating partner in a relationship but yeah..
Makes me wonder sometimes if the more feminine looking girl in a lesbian relationship with a manly looking girl has just had bad experiences with men or hates men or something? But even then it wouldn't make sense to be with a manly looking woman. Well other than the no dick part.




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Oh my God let me unpack this bullshit sees the person who posted it
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Kefkapwnsall wrote:

Oh my God let me unpack this bullshit sees the person who posted it
Never mind


Guess iam not entitled to an opinion then?
It's not as if i was throwing out insults.
Some judgemet perhaps(as you're now judging me) but more so confusion and asking questions.
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I don't find it strange.

I've seen from other topics you've posted that this is clearly not a supportive community. It's sad. Please don't let it get to you.
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I don't find it strange, people have a hard time considering it in the context of gender and sexuality being different things. To them I'd say: How does this affect you personally? No one is being harmed, and if it makes someone happy then what is so wrong?
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Homophobia is not an opinion or rather a defensible one like you can say that it's your opinion that water moves uphill but it's wrong
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rawratl wrote:

I don't find it strange, people have a hard time considering it in the context of gender and sexuality being different things. To them I'd say: How does this affect you personally? No one is being harmed, and if it makes someone happy then what is so wrong?


It dose not effect me. And i do believe that people should be able to do what they want with their sexuality with their own life.
I just dont like, or more so feel a bit concerned or worried at how normalized it is all becoming. As far as what it must be like for the minds of innocent young confused children growing up and being educated. And possibly having their minds altered.
And some people are mentally ill or just confused as well.

plus whilst i couldn't care less what people do behind closed doors, i think sometimes this whole subject is shoved in our face and down our throat too much.
Like at times it is exaggerated how common it is and we shouldn't have to always make changes to cater for the minority. More so if it's at the majorities expense in some way.
Not saying that these people should not go out in public or show any effection in public but yeah. It must be confusing for the young children.

But i guess times are ever changing and at a fairly rapid rate. Many things that weren't considered normal now are.
And people should be able to do whatever they want with their own bodies.
Just not young children. If they cant consent to sex iam not sure they can decide to change their sex. Dunno?


I might change gender and have sex with male dogs but iam not gay. is that weird?



Kefkapwnsall wrote:

Homophobia is not an opinion or rather a defensible one like you can say that it's your opinion that water moves uphill but it's wrong


What did i say that was homophobic? seriously?
I just said why would you change into a woman to be with a woman? and why do so many lesbian girls who are obviously attracted to girls end up with girls who look alot like males?
Genuine questions.






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I don't find it strange.

I've seen from other topics you've posted that this is clearly not a supportive community. It's sad. Please don't let it get to you.


It's foolish and selfish to expect a loose community of veritable strangers to arbitrarily assume the role of another's lifeline. You support hardly anyone, yourself, and do not appear to have any desire to identify with those outside a clique. As is realistic. It's a two-way street. CR is highly individualistic, and is not a close-knit community in the slightest.
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Yes, I think it's odd, because it renders the time and expense of transitioning impractical. Yes, I am a penny-pincher.

Also, attributing like "feminine-looking" males to lesbianism is disconcerting, as it heavily relies upon stereotyping males.
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Inplying lgbt are mentally ill. Also maybe it's cause I dont want to choose between being a woman and loving them
And respect is a two way street yes but you have to recognize me as a woman for me to not call you an asshole because clearly you can be nice about it but not respect
And how the fuck did touch ignore all the people supporting taking kids away from trans parents
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Well, trap would imply there is intentional deceit, often meant to the anime or artist when portraying a fictional character like Hideyoshi from Baka Test. I wouldn't normally use when referring to actual people where deceit may or may not be intentional, or the hiding of truth as being done primarily for trickery.

I am not sure of the context, but I believe you, as well as share your interests.

Except, intentionally keeping it a secret is, by definition, deceit.
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Yes, I think it's odd, because it renders the time and expense of transitioning impractical. Yes, I am a penny-pincher.


What you appear to be saying here is that there is nothing to be a woman beyond being sexually attracted to men.

Do correct me if I'm wrong, but it's hard to read into this in any other way.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Well, trap would imply there is intentional deceit, often meant to the anime or artist when portraying a fictional character like Hideyoshi from Baka Test. I wouldn't normally use when referring to actual people where deceit may or may not be intentional, or the hiding of truth as being done primarily for trickery.

I am not sure of the context, but I believe you, as well as share your interests.

Except, intentionally keeping it a secret is, by definition, deceit.

Why should it matter for a one night stand like I'll tell people I'm trans so they don't shoot me but that isn't mandatory

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gwen_Araujo
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Posted 6/26/17 , edited 6/26/17

XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Well, trap would imply there is intentional deceit, often meant to the anime or artist when portraying a fictional character like Hideyoshi from Baka Test. I wouldn't normally use when referring to actual people where deceit may or may not be intentional, or the hiding of truth as being done primarily for trickery.

I am not sure of the context, but I believe you, as well as share your interests.

Except, intentionally keeping it a secret is, by definition, deceit.


I agree, depending on the relationship. For romantic or other types or other type of relationships demanding closeness, it would be dishonest due to how many people care about it, especially with sexual partners and such. People in those situations deserve to know, no matter the overall importance I personally place on it.

Just being transgender, or appearing to be another gender, doesn't seem to be deceitful to me, but I suppose an argument could be formed.
That being said, I find announcing such and such when no one asks but in the case that "they do" to be a bit annoying, which is one of the primary reasons I responded with that view. I was thinking of situations such as just walking down the street, rather than inquiries for truth or situations that would demand it so, such as relationships.
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