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I'm filling out the paperwork for passports and visas. Our passports expired so I'm renewing them.

$110 for the passport book
$30 for the passport card
$140 for both

6-8 week "door to door" wait time standard service (expedited will be $60 extra + overnight etc.. 2-3 weeks)

Visas will be $20/each. I'll need to send them our passport books (or maybe just the cards will be fine) and pre-paid envelope for return shipping. Everything will have to be certified mail.

It's been a while but the process is still pretty easy. Walgreen charged $13.99 for two passport photos. I guess at least it's cheaper if you do it yourself.

*just got back from the post office - $5 for certified first class mailing

Do you travel outside of the country often ?


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The last time I was technically 'out of the country', I'm not sure it required a visa since we were just passing through, but I wasn't bothered with such details at the time.

Outside of that, I haven't been out of the country since the late 80s, when we returned to the States.
Posted 6/27/17 , edited 6/27/17

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Do you travel outside of the country often ?


I keep my passport renewed frequently. I've gone through two of them now (one as a teenager, one as an adult, currently on my second one as an adult). I'm usually out of the country at least one week every 2-3 months for business (at the bare minimum). Work tends to take me to Japan, Australia, Russia, Canada, Hong Kong, and Ireland. International vacations are at least 3-6 weeks (when I finally do get around to taking them). I tend to take trips to England, Germany, Luxembourg, and China for vacation.

So yeah... I think I travel outside of the country more than enough in some cases.

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One thing I absolutely hate is that the government isn't keen on adding passport pages any longer. I'm due to run out of pages in the next 3-4 months, so I guess I should probably apply for a new one altogether soon myself. 52 pages just isn't enough.
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ninjitsuko wrote:


dulun18 wrote:
Do you travel outside of the country often ?


I keep my passport renewed frequently. I've gone through two of them now (one as a teenager, one as an adult, currently on my second one as an adult). I'm usually out of the country at least one week every 2-3 months for business (at the bare minimum). Work tends to take me to Japan, Australia, Russia, Canada, Hong Kong, and Ireland. International vacations are at least 3-6 weeks (when I finally do get around to taking them). I tend to take trips to England, Germany, Luxembourg, and China for vacation.

So yeah... I think I travel outside of the country more than enough in some cases.

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One thing I absolutely hate is that the government isn't keen on adding passport pages any longer. I'm due to run out of pages in the next 3-4 months, so I guess I should probably apply for a new one altogether soon myself. 52 pages just isn't enough.


i think a standard passport book has 24 pages (they used up 6-7 pages for various information though). I saw the option to request 52 pages for free before reading the notice just below the option



52 pages passport book is not enough for you ? just tell the custom agents to stamp in specific area instead of all over the place! I hate it when they took half a page for a small stamp. Some places will also issue visa sticker, which will take up 1 whole page.

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52 pages passport book is not enough for you ? just tell the custom agents to stamp in specific area instead of all over the place! I hate it when they took half a page for a small stamp. Some places will also issue visa sticker, which will take up 1 whole page.


Bolded, for the truth.
I have several work visas in this particular passport book (UK, Japan, and Russia) - they take up an entire page in your passport book. Then you have the lazy immigration agents who will take a whole page by stamping directly in middle of the page, or take up two squares rather than stamping it correctly. So let's just do some calculations here:

52 pages ~ 4 squares per page = 208 "perfect stamps"

One Trip = 2 stamps, minimum (arrival to destination, arrival back into USA).
Three UK Visas = -3 pages
Four Japan Visas = -4 pages
Three Russia Visas = -3 pages

Total Pages Used for Visas: 10 = 42 pages (168 squares left).

This would leave me with an ideal 84 trips to survive ten years. This doesn't count the travel between countries while in Europe, nor when travelling between China and neighboring countries for business ventures/personal travel - as each will require another stamp. Taking a glance at my passport, I have 4 free pages left (out of 52). When you try to tell the immigrations officer to stamp "properly", they get rude and snippy - then will make sure to stamp in the center (which usually indicates "deported from the airport" if it's a black stamp). I've lost a few good pages that way... (sigh).
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Can you request extra pages for the passport book when you are running out of pages ?

I know for Visas if you want you can request them as a separate 4 pages brochure/booklet of sort, you will save passport pages this way.



the first 7 pages of the passport book are not usable (out of 24 pages) and it looks like it's possible to put 8 stamps per page instead of 4

personally, if possible i would open the passport book and show them where to stamp

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Can you request extra pages for the passport book when you are running out of pages ?


Before last year, yes. My first passport was 70 pages total.
You could probably fit eight (or more!) if immigrations actually weren't just throwing that stamp anywhere in the wind. I tried doing all those things in the past but none of the countries I've been to have any fucks about where you want the stamp. They only start getting a little considerate when you're running out of space. My last trip to New Zealand, the immigrations agent goes "Oh hey, you're a traveller aren't you? Might be time to get some more pages in the passport." He stamps in the far left corner and shoos me on my way.

My first passport was rather neat. One country would stamp to the left for entry, right for return (ex: Japan, Left / USA, Right). Even though it cuts your pages down in half, at least it followed some type of pattern. My last passport was out of pages when I had to go to Italy on an emergency. My arrival and return were just "re-stamps" (stamped on top of my last stamp from each country). That worked too. Now it's just a free-for-all. lol
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ninjitsuko wrote:

I keep my passport renewed frequently. I've gone through two of them now (one as a teenager, one as an adult, currently on my second one as an adult). I'm usually out of the country at least one week every 2-3 months for business (at the bare minimum). Work tends to take me to Japan, Australia, Russia, Canada, Hong Kong, and Ireland. International vacations are at least 3-6 weeks (when I finally do get around to taking them). I tend to take trips to England, Germany, Luxembourg, and China for vacation.

So yeah... I think I travel outside of the country more than enough in some cases.

Edit:
One thing I absolutely hate is that the government isn't keen on adding passport pages any longer. I'm due to run out of pages in the next 3-4 months, so I guess I should probably apply for a new one altogether soon myself. 52 pages just isn't enough.


What kind of job do you have that let's you travel that much for work?


And as for the OP, I spent two months in England last summer, with weekends in Paris and Amsterdam. I'm spending this summer in Singapore with a weekend in Bali. So I'd say I travel a bit, especially for a college student.
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dulun18 wrote:
Can you request extra pages for the passport book when you are running out of pages ?


Before last year, yes. My first passport was 70 pages total.
You could probably fit eight (or more!) if immigration actually weren't just throwing that stamp anywhere in the wind. I tried doing all those things in the past but none of the countries I've been to have any fucks about where you want the stamp. They only start getting a little considerate when you're running out of space. My last trip to New Zealand, the immigration agent goes "Oh hey, you're a traveler aren't you? Might be time to get some more pages in the passport." He stamps in the far left corner and shoos me on my way.

My first passport was rather neat. One country would stamp to the left for entry, right for return (ex: Japan, Left / USA, Right). Even though it cuts your pages down in half, at least it followed some type of pattern. My last passport was out of pages when I had to go to Italy on an emergency. My arrival and return were just "re-stamps" (stamped on top of my last stamp from each country). That worked too. Now it's just a free-for-all. lol


Please excuse me for this but i'll stereotype for a moment

You saw "up in the air" movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_in_the_Air_(2009_film)

UP IN THE AIR (2009) - Official Movie Trailer - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTL1FmvVCuA

There's a part about tips when traveling in the movie. It's hilarious and true!! The Japanese are polite people. If it's possible i would like to live next to them instead of a neighbor who likes to use the front of my house as their parking spot (creating blindspot when I'm backing out and taking up my trash/recycle cans' spot, etc..).

It's sad to see that this is in the US. Did you have similar problem during your travel ? the country I spent most of my time in is the one i can speak the language fluently, if not i would avoid dark places

Suckerpunch: Tourists receive brutal beatdown and get robbed in French Quarter - TomoNews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmUSYOcUHbM


btw. for buying tickets, which site or app do you use and best time to travel ? I will pay everything with my credit card since there are benefits of paying for plane tickets with credit cards

https://www.cardbenefits.citi.com/

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Please excuse me for this but i'll stereotype for a moment

There's a part about tips when traveling in the movie. It's hilarious and true!! The Japanese are polite people. If it's possible i would like to live next to them instead of a neighbor who likes to use the front of my house as their parking spot (creating blindspot when I'm backing out and taking up my trash/recycle cans' spot, etc..).


As bad as it sounds, those stereotypes are mostly true. I've learned to pack light from my frequent trips to Japan. Nothing Japanese travelers hate more than a Caucasian guy who's got two large suitcases and a bookbag.



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It's sad to see that this is in the US. Did you have similar problem during your travel ? the country I spent most of my time in is the one i can speak the language fluently, if not i would avoid dark places


The only place I encountered any issues was in Spain. Unfortunately, the stereotype that Barcelona as being the "pickpocket capital of the world" is pretty accurate. Because a few friends had informed me of this long before I went there, I made sure to line my pockets with "decoys" (notes saying: "Nice try" or "You were close enough for me to see who you were." .. or stupid items with zero value). Went out on the town with 10 of these notes (3 in each front pocket, 2 in each back pocket). Got back to the hotel with 2 left (each in the front pocket).

I walk around in fairly shady areas in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Beijing, and Shenzhen. But I know the languages well enough to hold my own in a conversation and look pretty intimidating (tall, big, muscular enough). In the video clip you sent, the biggest issue is that New Orleans is a bad area in general due to people getting drunk off their asses (easy targets and loudmouthed). People tend not to be observant of things going around them when they're that drunk.


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btw. for buying tickets, which site or app do you use and best time to travel ? I will pay everything with my credit card since there are benefits of paying for plane tickets with credit cards


For work, we use Google Flights. I use the same for personal flights these days too, as they are cheaper. Round-trip to Tokyo/Moscow are around $3,000-4,000 (business class). The company will dish out for first class to Tokyo and New Delhi - which is around $8,000-10,000 (round-trip).

I normally use my Chase Sapphire Reserve card for flights. Good loyalty programs and travel credit.


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What kind of job do you have that let's you travel that much for work?


We sell our product to people, internationally (it's a VoIP-based technology). They can either choose to go through us (whereas we use Amazon Web Services as part of the "cloud environment") or, the latter (which causes the excessive travel), is when they want us to configure it on their own servers in-house. There are also our resellers in Japan and Russia that casually will demand that we go on-site to help them pitch to a large potential-client. Any of these situtations can lead to 3-5 month on-location communication (cheaper than flying back and forth) or a quick stop for 1-2 weeks.
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I often visit Latin America and Europe. I have also been to Vietnam, Korea, Japan and China. I have yet to get to go to Australia and Africa. Need to wait to visit Russia again. No interest in going there with the current state of things.

All in all, I have been out of the USA for 2 weeks+ a total of 27 times. It is so expensive, but great fun. I will keep doing it. Broaden my worldly prospective.
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I've been to Japan and China. I got to go to both for free.
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As bad as it sounds, those stereotypes are mostly true. I've learned to pack light from my frequent trips to Japan. Nothing Japanese travelers hate more than a Caucasian guy who's got two large suitcases and a bookbag.

The only place I encountered any issues was in Spain. Unfortunately, the stereotype that Barcelona as being the "pickpocket capital of the world" is pretty accurate. Because a few friends had informed me of this long before I went there, I made sure to line my pockets with "decoys" (notes saying: "Nice try" or "You were close enough for me to see who you were." .. or stupid items with zero value). Went out on the town with 10 of these notes (3 in each front pocket, 2 in each back pocket). Got back to the hotel with 2 left (each in the front pocket).

I walk around in fairly shady areas in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Beijing, and Shenzhen. But I know the languages well enough to hold my own in a conversation and look pretty intimidating (tall, big, muscular enough). In the video clip you sent, the biggest issue is that New Orleans is a bad area in general due to people getting drunk off their asses (easy targets and loudmouthed). People tend not to be observant of things going around them when they're that drunk.

For work, we use Google Flights. I use the same for personal flights these days too, as they are cheaper. Round-trip to Tokyo/Moscow are around $3,000-4,000 (business class). The company will dish out for first class to Tokyo and New Delhi - which is around $8,000-10,000 (round-trip).

I normally use my Chase Sapphire Reserve card for flights. Good loyalty programs and travel credit.

We sell our product to people, internationally (it's a VoIP-based technology). They can either choose to go through us (whereas we use Amazon Web Services as part of the "cloud environment") or, the latter (which causes the excessive travel), is when they want us to configure it on their own servers in-house. There are also our resellers in Japan and Russia that casually will demand that we go on-site to help them pitch to a large potential-client. Any of these situtations can lead to 3-5 month on-location communication (cheaper than flying back and forth) or a quick stop for 1-2 weeks.


Stereotyping is often pretty spot on. It's important to learn about those things and various tips about certain locations after certain hours...

I always wear clothes with zipper pockets I would also tight the backpack's strap across my chest for additional security (or wearning it in front of my chest instead of the back.

I heard of google flight but i found out they don't always have the best deals available. I like a more affordable and shorter flight time when i'm buying plane tickets

https://www.bonuscashcenter.citicards.com/me____.htm?keywords=bestbuy&mnpos=1309|7096|1|1|search_box&gmid=2027
https://www.orbitz.com/
https://www.kayak.com/flights
https://www.skyscanner.com/
http://www.momondo.com/
https://www.google.com/flights/
http://matrix.itasoftware.com/
http://www.farecompare.com/
http://www.airfarewatchdog.com/

often time i'll end up with Korean Air or Japan Airline (JAL). JAL has the shortest time among the airlines 22 hr from Phoenix to Asia and 20 hour back

3K-10K for a plane ticket ? You have to travel a lot or make more than that in a month to make it worth while..

Also, your customers can not do business through Skype or conference call ?
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