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Posted 6/28/17 , edited 6/28/17
Go Poland! Nothing wrong with national pride and racial and religious pride. It's their country, their choice.


octorockandroll wrote:

Another bigoted tirade about "refugees=terrorists".

Nothing special here.


But Chinese and Japanese and Koreans are not bigots hey?

EDIT: what about Saudi Arabia also?



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MrAnimeSK wrote:

Go Poland! Nothing wrong with national pride and racial and religious pride. It's their country, their choice.


octorockandroll wrote:

Another bigoted tirade about "refugees=terrorists".

Nothing special here.


But Chinese and Japanese and Koreans are not bigots hey?

EDIT: what about Saudi Arabia also?





why even ask, the person does not even have the balls to have a real debate, posting troll remarks and running. Hear I am shit ass drunk off my ass after working a 10 hour shift, and still if he had anything rational to say I be glad to tell him why he was wrong.. but I don't expect much from someone unable to do anything other than troll.
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why even ask, the person does not even have the balls to have a real debate, posting troll remarks and running. Hear I am shit ass drunk off my ass after working a 10 hour shift, and still if he had anything rational to say I be glad to tell him why he was wrong.. but I don't expect much from someone unable to do anything other than troll.


Ah i thought this got closed or deleted?

Yeah i mean you're right, there's not much point in trying to debate with him. I give him credit in some regards for bringing a debate to an extent but at the same time is is very set in stone. To the point where no matter what your opinion is or no matter what proof/evidence/statistics/links you have, or even when just common sense or tuth or logic or etc all apply, he will pretty much never agree with any view opposing his own or change his mind on anything.
I mean we all have our own views. It's not like iam going to change and become a lefty. Although there was a time i was like that. Not a bat shit crazy hate my own race sort of lefty but yeah. Was a time i was a bit racist as well, as a young kid.
Iam sure he is trolling sometimes. But i guess he may just be very opinionated. As am i.

But in instances like this where it's ok for some nations to not take in refugees but for others its racist or Islamaphobic or bigoted or etc, that's where i dont get where people cant see the double standards or ah hypocrisy(of their own views) or more so one rule or law or moral standards for one and one for another.
Pretty much the whole "it's only racist if you're white"

If anything, America should take in all the refugees, being the ones causing them. But nobody should be taking in fake refugees that are not even from Syria, and the ones posing as 14 year old s yet they're 40 and leaping past several safe havens in order to pick and choose where they want to go and etc.

And how many Islamic terror attacks do you see in the nations i mentioned above? (my previous post)

I will admit i have not been to France as he has and another guy that i know through gaming has been several times and said it's not as bad as it's made out.
But Sweden, well from all the stuff iam watching and hearing and reading and etc there are now 61 no go zones (they dont actually call them no go zones officially). Suggestions that the police force cannot cope and there is no money to resolve the problem(s), low morale, many considering leaving the force, suggestions that military will be required. Suggestions that armed forces are needed for the fire fighters and medical workers/ambulance staff's protection and etc.
Then there is the all male gangs hanging out in the sub ways harassing and molesting girls and robbing people. And the leftist government decides to create anti far right group squads/units rather than solve the actual problem.
But yeah i have not been there for myself.

I dont see Poland as bigots. i see them as having common sense and viewing what is happeing in Sweden and Germany and the UK and etc and learning from example.
Why risk it? why go out of your way to increase the chances for terrorism or crime? It's been proven by example Muslims for the most part do not assimilate at all.
Not only that, there is the tax payers cost.
It dose sound heartless when talking about actual genuine refugees. But is it always the right thing to do? , help others at your own expense? especially when some of those which you help are un grateful and and/or a burden and/or the enemey.

Never ending debate really.

But a country should have the right to not take them in if they dont want to. If Saudi Arabia can deny them why cant European nations?

Anyways ^^;

EDIT: Russia must be doing something right. They attack the terroist groups, they have ALOT of Msulims in their country yet haven't had any terror attacks in Russia for some time.
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
why even ask, the person does not even have the balls to have a real debate, posting troll remarks and running. Hear I am shit ass drunk off my ass after working a 10 hour shift, and still if he had anything rational to say I be glad to tell him why he was wrong.. but I don't expect much from someone unable to do anything other than troll.


He gave up debating months ago due to people such as yourself steadfastly clinging to conspiracy theories and a cult of personality.

I may not always agree with his attitude but I can certainly understand it at this juncture.
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Meh, so another country in the EU is tired of Brussels telling them how to run their country. Ssdd (same shitndifferent day). I say let the Aussies take more refugees instead of marooning 10,000 of them on an island and then getting all but hurt when the US won't take them lol.
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But Chinese and Japanese and Koreans are not bigots hey?

EDIT: what about Saudi Arabia also?



Where are those countries conflating refugees with terrorists?
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


why even ask, the person does not even have the balls to have a real debate, posting troll remarks and running. Hear I am shit ass drunk off my ass after working a 10 hour shift, and still if he had anything rational to say I be glad to tell him why he was wrong.. but I don't expect much from someone unable to do anything other than troll.


Ah i thought this got closed or deleted?

Yeah i mean you're right, there's not much point in trying to debate with him. I give him credit in some regards for bringing a debate to an extent but at the same time is is very set in stone. To the point where no matter what your opinion is or no matter what proof/evidence/statistics/links you have, or even when just common sense or tuth or logic or etc all apply, he will pretty much never agree with any view opposing his own or change his mind on anything.
I mean we all have our own views. It's not like iam going to change and become a lefty. Although there was a time i was like that. Not a bat shit crazy hate my own race sort of lefty but yeah. Was a time i was a bit racist as well, as a young kid.
Iam sure he is trolling sometimes. But i guess he may just be very opinionated. As am i.


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MrAnimeSK wrote:

But Chinese and Japanese and Koreans are not bigots hey?

EDIT: what about Saudi Arabia also?



Where are those countries conflating refugees with terrorists?


Ok so i was more getting at they dont take any in/dont want any/have bugger all of them in ther own countries.
Is it a coinsidence that they dont have bugger all Islamic terrorism?


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Meh, so another country in the EU is tired of Brussels telling them how to run their country. Ssdd (same shitndifferent day). I say let the Aussies take more refugees instead of marooning 10,000 of them on an island and then getting all but hurt when the US won't take them lol.


Nar you can have em mate :P

Our shit previous government is why they're all there. Stupid lefty Labor party. And your good mate Obama made a deal to take them, so since Obama can do and never has done any wrong, you should take them ;)

Is that all you've got Octo boy? ;)


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I will admit i have not been to France as he has and another guy that i know through gaming has been several times and said it's not as bad as it's made out.


I can say the same for Germany. I went there this summer and as per usual, no one really cares minus the small and vocal AfD... and the USA. Then again I only talked politics with a small group of friends (30 or so). Politics in Germany will really only happen with strangers if you are hitting it off and down a good few beers.

The USA really seems to throw it out of proportion. Even my friends from the UK are not as worried about it as the USA makes it out to seem. What can I say though, fear pays. Make EU look scared and big business makes a pretty penny.
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The USA really seems to throw it out of proportion. Even my friends from the UK are not as worried about it as the USA makes it out to seem. What can I say though, fear pays. Make EU look scared and big business makes a pretty penny.


Yeah i dunno. I know people in the UK and apparety is really bad in some parts but not at all in others.
Here in Australia you hear things are really bad in parts of Sydney and Melbourne but iam in Adelaide. I haven't been to Melbourne for years and have never been to Sydney.
My old neighbourhood has pretty much become the middle east. As far as all the shops are middle eastern restaurants and grocers, halal butchers and all the shops have Arabic text and that.
I haven't heard of much really bad stuff happening or anything there though. A couple of incidents. I haven't lived there for years and dont go there much. When i drive through it is crazy how much it changed.
It went from Aussies and Italians, Greeks, Vietnames, to then Mostly Africans to now the middle east.

The area i live in now, theres a little market street not far away and theres always alot of Muslims there. Women with hijabs and that. But i dont go there much either.

I hear alot of Muslims in Thailand now. Sort of taking over a bit but i also hear the Russians have a strong presence there.
And in typical Japanese fashion they have their Japanese only places in Thailand.

But now iam getting a bit off topic.

But yes i think sometimes you have to go and see for yourself. I have little doubt that the media is covering up how bad it is in some parts but without having been here myself f course i cannot know 100%.

My Russian friend told me that in Russia he fought alot with Muslims Arabs. And that there were areas that Russians were told not to go (Muslim areas).

Some Indian people i know as well have told me some stuff about the situation there as well.

I work with many Europeans and some of them def dont seem to like Islam/Muslims. But not all.

I've also worked with Muslims and they dont like all Muslims lol. Or non Muslism from lebanon who have told me some really fucked up stories.
Like one Lebanese guy who told me his young sister was raped and murdered by Muslims. Hard to imagine.







Posted 6/29/17
I have been to many those places over a time and seen changes not so much for the better..

with my job coming to a end my travel days in Europe also, I want think about safety more
i will be staying in the states time to visit various states here as i look forward to my early retirement.

My only thought is with the people in those countries where all things going a mess praying
for friends i met along my many travels and glad to be back home safe.
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Ok so i was more getting at they dont take any in/dont want any/have bugger all of them in ther own countries.
Is it a coinsidence that they dont have bugger all Islamic terrorism?




Without going into the effort of actually defining what their immigration policies are, I'd imagine that China, Japan, and Korea don't have much of an issue with Isis because they aren't mucking around in the Middle East. China for one has a fairly sizable indigenous Muslim population (~1.5-4%) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China

As for Saudi Arabia: that was the origin of the 9/11 terrorists.
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Someday I will visit Poland. It is an amazing country with a great culture and history that has gotten screwed nonstop. Its no wonder they dont want invaders they have been invaded for centuries.


Definition of refugee:
A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster:

I don't know how in the world you can make a comparison between refugees who come from disaster and f*cking invasive armies taking over a country with hostility. The two things aren't even remotely the same.
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Rujikin wrote:

Someday I will visit Poland. It is an amazing country with a great culture and history that has gotten screwed nonstop. Its no wonder they dont want invaders they have been invaded for centuries.


Definition of refugee:
A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster:

I don't know how in the world you can make a comparison between refugees who come from disaster and f*cking invasive armies taking over a country with hostility. The two things aren't even remotely the same.


I imagine his justification for treating the two terms synonimously would be something along the lines of:
They're brown and a few of them may or may not be criminals.
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