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Posted 6/29/17

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The whole situation is lose/lose. Its a shame that Redo turned her thread to garbage from the first post because honestly, this is something that should be discussed, but in a level headed and logical manner.


Agreed, but lets be honest, it didn't have a chance on this forum.

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Was coming into this thread expecting actual discussion and then saw the last paragraph.

Honestly not sure why I expect actual adult discourse to happen on this forum anymore.


Well it was clear to me that the OP is not looking at the facts at what is going on in France, England at the moment.
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Italy is not a dumping ground for migrants.

Nor is any other country.

They have the same right to choose who lives in their country as the rest of the world enjoys.

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Posted 6/29/17 , edited 6/29/17
GENEVA – With two months still to go, deaths of refugees and migrants crossing the Mediterranean so far this year have hit a record high, the UN Refugee Agency, UNHCR detailed today.
Expressing alarm at the situation, UNHCR reported that 3,740 lives had been lost so far in 2016, just short of the 3,771 reported for the whole of 2015.
More people have died last year then 9/11
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I think the only solution is to negotiate a peace and help rebuild what has been destroyed, so these people can go home. It's a tall order but dealing with the fallout of yet another decade of war isn't a better option.
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*Whispers: "you can do it, Italy."*
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Posted 6/29/17

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Do you guys care about the massive fatalities crossing the sea


I really dont care at this point. They wouldnt die if they migrated the CORRECT way. Sucks for them and they should blame it on the misfortune of their births.


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Posted 6/29/17 , edited 6/29/17
So 3. 5 thousand lives mean nothing
Then what does
Would you say the same if it were Australians?

Fine trolley problem save 1 American or 100 Nigerians
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Why should we save any of them?

Where is it written that WE are responsible for solving OTHERS problems.

If the refugees will not fight for their homeland WHY should others be forced to sacrifice for THEM.

When the time comes they are all going back, the lucky ones will get to leave on foot, the unlucky ones in plastic bags.

And those who shill for them will be denounced as traitors and be put up against a wall.

All this HAS happened before and it WILL happen again.
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You know they probably don't even have half the documentation to make a legal case for immigrating into a country. Even if they did, it'd likely take up a huge chunk of their life if not all their life time to even get all the documents they'd ever need to make any sot of immigration into Europe. It doesn't feel right that they're coming in such large numbers to Europe but the problem is I think Europe's dealing not with adults but young people who likely don't have access to any if very little of the paperwork they'd need to be approved as any country's citizens. So ultimately they can't handle thins over there simply because a lot of the people don't have a lot of ways to prove they'd be a law abiding or helpful citizen to their new country.
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The problem is the vast majority of these refugees are nothing but a burden on any country that has the misfortune to take them in.

They cannot speak or read the language, they have no useful skills and are destitute.

Now throw in the vast difference in culture between a traditional Islamic society and a post Christian West and you have a powder keg waiting to detonate.

That is why countries such as Saudi Arabia refuse to take any refugees.

They regard them as being no better than locusts because they CANNOT contribute anything, they just take...
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From the time I first heard about this, and it's a continuing news thing, I thought about the Florida/Cuban thing. You hear about the 'migrant who risked everything on a makeshift raft, came to this country, worked hard, and became an upstanding citizen', but it ignores all the ones who never get off the beach.
Posted 7/2/17
I can't blame them in my travels to Italy i do not like the change that saw it has become a issue one that should be dealt with.
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Jesus was a refugee. And these people so what if they can't speak the language. To be honest I don't care no boarders no masters
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sarcasm goes over your heads doesn't it?


asfor the topic since ive barely been online for a few days

why should Europe, a tiny continent take in so many of these people?
haven't they taken in ENOUGH? when is too much simply too much
this is just a band aid, taking in all of these people aint gonna do shit, except make the European nations worse off, clearly

why don't we fix the actual problem?
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