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NY Times retracts "17 intel agencies" agree on Russian Hacking
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Posted 6/29/17 , edited 6/30/17

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Why make a thread about this? Is people owning up to their mistakes just that much a foreign concept to you?


In this instance yes. And they need to be put on blast to be held to a better standard.


Uh yeah, what higher standard?

CNN made a mistake and corrected it. What would be a higher standard? Never being wrong? I hate to break it to you but that's not happening, like ever.
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Not surprised, used to this by now. Still disappointed.
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I've personally never heard anyone quote "17 agencies", but thats just me. I'm sure everybody is saying it these days.

"Sup fam"
"17 agencies, bro"


Hahaha, ahhhh. I needed a good laugh like that today; thank you good sir.

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octorockandroll wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Why make a thread about this? Is people owning up to their mistakes just that much a foreign concept to you?


In this instance yes. And they need to be put on blast to be held to a better standard.


Uh yeah, what higher standard?

CNN made a mistake and corrected it. What would be a higher standard? Never being wrong? I hate to break it to you but that's not happening, like ever.


It's what they are wrong about. It's one thing to misreport the date or number of something and issue an honest correction. But when it's about the same subject, more than once. What is going on in today's media are overzealous reporters looking to make a name for themselves with hit pieces. Like in the American Pravada thread, O'keefe knows he's doing just that. Makes no attempts to hide it. CNN, NY Times etc want people to think they have no agenda when covering the news. Every time a stories like this backfires it's a hit to their credibility.
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MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Why make a thread about this? Is people owning up to their mistakes just that much a foreign concept to you?


In this instance yes. And they need to be put on blast to be held to a better standard.


Uh yeah, what higher standard?

CNN made a mistake and corrected it. What would be a higher standard? Never being wrong? I hate to break it to you but that's not happening, like ever.


It's what they are wrong about. It's one thing to misreport the date or number of something and issue an honest correction. But when it's about the same subject, more than once. What is going on in today's media are overzealous reporters looking to make a name for themselves with hit pieces. Like in the American Pravada thread, O'keefe knows he's doing just that. Makes no attempts to hide it. CNN, NY Times etc want people to think they have no agenda when covering the news. Every time a stories like this backfires it's a hit to their credibility.


No, it's not a hit to their credibility to be wrong about something every now and then, every news source does that. If anything ut's a testament to their credibility that they own up to it. Look at other news sources, hell, just look at the damn president and you'll see way more lying with way less self-correction. News media has and always will make mistakes. To act like CNN is discredited because it did so too is just the same thing as 90% of the other attempts to discredit them: just a bunch of partisan "wah" and "wah" with a side of "wah".
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Gotta say when I heard this story originally I clearly remember the statement was "All the major intelligence agencies confirm" not ALL. And sorry, but the CIA/NSA/FBI/ are the major intel agencies.
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octorockandroll wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Why make a thread about this? Is people owning up to their mistakes just that much a foreign concept to you?


In this instance yes. And they need to be put on blast to be held to a better standard.


Uh yeah, what higher standard?

CNN made a mistake and corrected it. What would be a higher standard? Never being wrong? I hate to break it to you but that's not happening, like ever.


It's what they are wrong about. It's one thing to misreport the date or number of something and issue an honest correction. But when it's about the same subject, more than once. What is going on in today's media are overzealous reporters looking to make a name for themselves with hit pieces. Like in the American Pravada thread, O'keefe knows he's doing just that. Makes no attempts to hide it. CNN, NY Times etc want people to think they have no agenda when covering the news. Every time a stories like this backfires it's a hit to their credibility.


No, it's not a hit to their credibility to be wrong about something every now and then, every news source does that. If anything ut's a testament to their credibility that they own up to it. Look at other news sources, hell, just look at the damn president and you'll see way more lying with way less self-correction. News media has and always will make mistakes. To act like CNN is discredited because it did so too is just the same thing as 90% of the other attempts to discredit them: just a bunch of partisan "wah" and "wah" with a side of "wah".


So CNN is perfectly neutral then?

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MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


MysticGon wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Why make a thread about this? Is people owning up to their mistakes just that much a foreign concept to you?


In this instance yes. And they need to be put on blast to be held to a better standard.


Uh yeah, what higher standard?

CNN made a mistake and corrected it. What would be a higher standard? Never being wrong? I hate to break it to you but that's not happening, like ever.


It's what they are wrong about. It's one thing to misreport the date or number of something and issue an honest correction. But when it's about the same subject, more than once. What is going on in today's media are overzealous reporters looking to make a name for themselves with hit pieces. Like in the American Pravada thread, O'keefe knows he's doing just that. Makes no attempts to hide it. CNN, NY Times etc want people to think they have no agenda when covering the news. Every time a stories like this backfires it's a hit to their credibility.


No, it's not a hit to their credibility to be wrong about something every now and then, every news source does that. If anything ut's a testament to their credibility that they own up to it. Look at other news sources, hell, just look at the damn president and you'll see way more lying with way less self-correction. News media has and always will make mistakes. To act like CNN is discredited because it did so too is just the same thing as 90% of the other attempts to discredit them: just a bunch of partisan "wah" and "wah" with a side of "wah".


So CNN is perfectly neutral then?



Wow, it only took me like, what, 3 posts to get you to fall back on the old crutch of putting words in someone else's mouth that you use whenever you realise you're losing an argument? I try not to pat myself on the back too much, but this time I think I've earned it.
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Pointless thread, even tried to deflect with the Seth Rich crazy person conspiracy nonsense. Next thing you know we'll get some sort of pizzagate reference.
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Rujikin - expressing an opinion is one thing but harassing a grieving family by repeating a baseless claim that even FOX news has retracted is beyond the pale.
Posted 6/29/17 , edited 6/30/17
Uh Ryu that Seth conspiracy has no evidence.
To be fair you republished that Pizzagate rumor
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rawratl wrote:

Pointless thread, even tried to deflect with the Seth Rich crazy person conspiracy nonsense. Next thing you know we'll get some sort of pizzagate reference.





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Rujikin - expressing an opinion is one thing but harassing a grieving family by repeating a baseless claim that even FOX news has retracted is beyond the pale.


Seth Rich has not been forgotten and we thank him everyday for his sacrifices to preserve our great nation. We will not rest until justice has been served for him as he served his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice for doing so.

I am still baffled why all of you dont want justice for this guy? He was a hard core Bernie supporting liberal but he actually loved his country.
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Rujikin wrote:

Seth Rich has not been forgotten and we thank him everyday for his sacrifices to preserve our great nation. We will not rest until justice has been served for him as he served his country and paid the ultimate sacrifice for doing so.

I am still baffled why all of you dont want justice for this guy? He was a hard core Bernie supporting liberal but he actually loved his country.

1) Wheeler, the only known source for the Fox news story, is an unlicensed private investigator and has been woefully inconsistent in his own narrative. Fox itself ultimately retracted the entire story when he couldn't produce even a single piece of evidence to support it.

2) He hasn't been forgotten, there is an open police investigation into his death. Running down conspiracy rabbit holes does nothing to help.

3) As a family spokesperson said, "I think there’s a very special place in hell for people that would use the memory of a murder victim in order to pursue a political agenda."

I'd recommend you stick to the NYT retraction, because this isn't doing you any favors.

Edit: Typo fix. Changed link from web archive to actual Fox site. Retractions are often removed after a short period but Fox, to their credit, has left it up.
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Posted 6/30/17 , edited 6/30/17
Trying to invalidate a report based on an article's correction on number of intel agencies behind the findings while pushing a completely unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, classy.
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