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I tried watching the original version which was in Chinese and it was pretty bad.

I'm not going to try again.

If someone wants to watch animation from China, the best at the moment is King's Avatar.
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The woman princess(i think she is one the episode didn't make it clear)was not even the sand fox's past lover! They never married or even had kids etc. So wtf are they even doing?


Where did you get this from? This is information not revealed until the next episode.
I guess it's the "princess" title that confused people. It's a translation issue. In the original language the female general is referred to as the prince's consort. I'm not sure what's a better translation or what the equivalent is called in English.



Oh great, so this will be a translation nightmare, good to know sigh.



Although translation is never easy, I don't think this series is particularly difficult. In fact, I find the fansub of the Chinese version has better quality than this version on crunchyroll. The crunchyroll sub has some obvious translation errors in the first two episodes. Some dialogues just make no sense. It may contribute to the confusion. I hope they do a better job for later episodes.
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I tried watching the original version which was in Chinese and it was pretty bad.

I'm not going to try again.

If someone wants to watch animation from China, the best at the moment is King's Avatar.



The first arc (first five episodes) is pretty bad. The second and third arcs are miles better in terms of both story and art.

I would definitely rate King's Avatar higher than the first arc of Fox Spirit Matchmaker, but not as high as the third arc. I say this as a fan of both series.

King's Avatar has a higher budget and is a more mature product than Fox Spirit Matchmaker when it started out. But King's Avatar season one is just laying foundation for the main story which hopefully will unfold in later seasons. On the other hand, Fox Spirit Matchmaker has a full-fledged story by episode 24 which is more emotionally captivating and explores deeper and darker themes. It's hard to believe from the looks of the first few episodes I know, but the first arc is not representative of the style or quality of this series.
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Jyzal wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

I tried watching the original version which was in Chinese and it was pretty bad.

I'm not going to try again.

If someone wants to watch animation from China, the best at the moment is King's Avatar.

The first arc (first five episodes) is pretty bad. The second and third arcs are miles better in terms of both story and art.

I would definitely rate King's Avatar higher than the first arc of Fox Spirit Matchmaker, but not as high as the third arc. I say this as a fan of both series.

King's Avatar has a higher budget and is a more mature product than Fox Spirit Matchmaker when it started out. But King's Avatar season one is just laying foundation for the main story which hopefully will unfold in later seasons. On the other hand, Fox Spirit Matchmaker has a full-fledged story by episode 24 which is more emotionally captivating and explores deeper and darker themes. It's hard to believe from the looks of the first few episodes I know, but the first arc is not representative of the style or quality of this series.

Does season 1 cover the first two arcs? Or do we get to see the third as well? Episode 24 wouldn't be until the second season? (There are four seasons already, right?)
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Jyzal wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:

I tried watching the original version which was in Chinese and it was pretty bad.

I'm not going to try again.

If someone wants to watch animation from China, the best at the moment is King's Avatar.

The first arc (first five episodes) is pretty bad. The second and third arcs are miles better in terms of both story and art.

I would definitely rate King's Avatar higher than the first arc of Fox Spirit Matchmaker, but not as high as the third arc. I say this as a fan of both series.

King's Avatar has a higher budget and is a more mature product than Fox Spirit Matchmaker when it started out. But King's Avatar season one is just laying foundation for the main story which hopefully will unfold in later seasons. On the other hand, Fox Spirit Matchmaker has a full-fledged story by episode 24 which is more emotionally captivating and explores deeper and darker themes. It's hard to believe from the looks of the first few episodes I know, but the first arc is not representative of the style or quality of this series.

Does season 1 cover the first two arcs? Or do we get to see the third as well? Episode 24 wouldn't be until the second season? (There are four seasons already, right?)



I'll just copy paste xingfenzhen's earlier post below, since he does a good summary:

Structure of the series:
The Japanese version covers episode 1-48 of Chinese release and the story has 3 main arcs with a 4th mini-arc embedded in the 3rd story arc. They are the following:

Sandfox Chapter (1-13 Chinese; 1-~5 Japanese)
This is a side quest primarily used to introduce characters and give you background of this world. So far this version is doing a poor job of it.

Wangquan Chapter (14-27 Chinese; ~6-~12 Japanese)
This is the main plot for our secondary characters and it serves as a setup and transition point to introduce our main plot.

Red Moon (Yue Hong) Chapter (28-48 Chinese, ~13-~24 Japanese).
This is the main plot for our two MCs, and it is the "meat" of the series.

The forth North Mountain Chapter is a side quest embedded in Red Moon covering Episodes 40-47 Chinese and likely 20-23 Japanese. It served to create a temporary end for the season.

In each chapter, the plots follows two timelines, one is in the present with character introduced in EP1, and one in the past with the past life of our objective characters.
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Jyzal wrote:

I'll just copy paste xingfenzhen's earlier post below, since he does a good summary:

Structure of the series:
The Japanese version covers episode 1-48 of Chinese release and the story has 3 main arcs with a 4th mini-arc embedded in the 3rd story arc. They are the following:

Sandfox Chapter (1-13 Chinese; 1-~5 Japanese)
This is a side quest primarily used to introduce characters and give you background of this world. So far this version is doing a poor job of it.

Wangquan Chapter (14-27 Chinese; ~6-~12 Japanese)
This is the main plot for our secondary characters and it serves as a setup and transition point to introduce our main plot.

Red Moon (Yue Hong) Chapter (28-48 Chinese, ~13-~24 Japanese).
This is the main plot for our two MCs, and it is the "meat" of the series.

The forth North Mountain Chapter is a side quest embedded in Red Moon covering Episodes 40-47 Chinese and likely 20-23 Japanese. It served to create a temporary end for the season.

In each chapter, the plots follows two timelines, one is in the present with character introduced in EP1, and one in the past with the past life of our objective characters.

Thanks - missed that.
Nice that the Japanese version covers so many episodes. And only 3 more episodes before it gets better.
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Jyzal wrote:

I'll just copy paste xingfenzhen's earlier post below, since he does a good summary:

Structure of the series:
The Japanese version covers episode 1-48 of Chinese release and the story has 3 main arcs with a 4th mini-arc embedded in the 3rd story arc. They are the following:

Sandfox Chapter (1-13 Chinese; 1-~5 Japanese)
This is a side quest primarily used to introduce characters and give you background of this world. So far this version is doing a poor job of it.

Wangquan Chapter (14-27 Chinese; ~6-~12 Japanese)
This is the main plot for our secondary characters and it serves as a setup and transition point to introduce our main plot.

Red Moon (Yue Hong) Chapter (28-48 Chinese, ~13-~24 Japanese).
This is the main plot for our two MCs, and it is the "meat" of the series.

The forth North Mountain Chapter is a side quest embedded in Red Moon covering Episodes 40-47 Chinese and likely 20-23 Japanese. It served to create a temporary end for the season.

In each chapter, the plots follows two timelines, one is in the present with character introduced in EP1, and one in the past with the past life of our objective characters.

Thanks - missed that.
Nice that the Japanese version covers so many episodes. And only 3 more episodes before it gets better.



Well, I enjoyed the latter half of the first arc and the first half of the second arc in a guilty pleasure way. It's only the beginning episodes I find more annoying than enjoyable.
Warning: Past certain episodes, this series gains an additive quality making people want to binge watch it.
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Well, I enjoyed the latter half of the first arc and the first half of the second arc in a guilty pleasure way. It's only the beginning episodes I find more annoying than enjoyable.
Warning: Past certain episodes, this series gains an additive quality making people want to binge watch it.


Can confirm, i binge watched the series after the first 5 episodes in chinese. Funny thing is, in retrospect, the first 5 episodes grew on me because it is nice to have some ridiculousness alongside the drama.
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Jyzal wrote:

Warning: Past certain episodes, this series gains an additive quality making people want to binge watch it.


Can confirm. I basically watched the first 5 episodes in the first week (which is the week when King's Avatar finshed and I'm in a donghua mood), pretty much dropped it and then when picked it up again the next weekend cause there is nothing else to watch. I end up binge all the way to the end at episode 63....

I almost succeed going to sleep that night when i'm one third of the way through the 2nd season, but i decided to watch one more episode... huge mistake... I end up watching until 10am the next day (thank god it's a weekend, and my wife is out of town) and I'm too old to pull all nighters.


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Jyzal wrote:

Well, I enjoyed the latter half of the first arc and the first half of the second arc in a guilty pleasure way. It's only the beginning episodes I find more annoying than enjoyable.


Can confirm, i binge watched the series after the first 5 episodes in chinese. Funny thing is, in retrospect, the first 5 episodes grew on me because it is nice to have some ridiculousness alongside the drama.


Yes, especially after the finish the heavy third arc and fifth arc, I do find the silly first arc quite charming.


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Darthjingjing wrote:


Jyzal wrote:

Well, I enjoyed the latter half of the first arc and the first half of the second arc in a guilty pleasure way. It's only the beginning episodes I find more annoying than enjoyable.
Warning: Past certain episodes, this series gains an additive quality making people want to binge watch it.


Can confirm, i binge watched the series after the first 5 episodes in chinese. Funny thing is, in retrospect, the first 5 episodes grew on me because it is nice to have some ridiculousness alongside the drama.


A lot of you are making me more excited about this show than I originally was. I'm looking forward to when this gets past the 5 episode mark to see if it improves (episode two was certainly an improvement compared to the first) and I might go seek out the original show too. Though I guess I should do that when I have a day off it seems.
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A lot of you are making me more excited about this show than I originally was. I'm looking forward to when this gets past the 5 episode mark to see if it improves (episode two was certainly an improvement compared to the first) and I might go seek out the original show too. Though I guess I should do that when I have a day off it seems.


Actually when we say 5 episodes, we meant the Chinese version and the end of episode 2 was right in the middle of episode 5 of the Chinese version. So as long as they dont do any weird cuts, this series is fine.
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Guys, please don't hype this up. Certain explanation should just be enough. The low expectation right now is perfect, especially when you consider the translation difficulties. Although it has its success in some aspects there are also flaws we can't ignore. People here will make their own judgement and I believe it's best for the show to be on test.
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Major Series Supporting Characters


Tushan Yaya/涂山雅雅

Yaya appears to be the older sister of Susu and is the current Queen of Tushan as well as leader of the Youkai Alliance. She seems to have a extremely cold and ambivalent personality only driven by money and her desire to marry Susu off. She is also the most powerful character so far. She primarily uses ice magic.





Tusha Rongrong/涂山蓉蓉

Rongrong is effectively the manager of Tushan and taking care of day to day activities of operating Tushan's matchmaking and commercial business. Her magic and fighting skills is on the lower end of more powerful youkai and humans, but she seems to be the most intelligent character so far. She often can make elaborate plans and adopt them to changing situation to make sure she (and Tushan) is always on the winning side. She primarily uses healing magic as well as shapeshifting



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...there are also flaws we can't ignore.


Please elaborate. I'm "dying" to know...
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Posted 7/14/17 , edited 7/14/17

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arcsec1 wrote:

...there are also flaws we can't ignore.


Please elaborate. I'm "dying" to know...


For me, the obvious flaw is the boring 1st season in the Chinese version, which has turned into disastrous due to editing and translation issue. Hopefully, both issues alleviate as we get into the later episodes.

For the series as whole, the biggest criticism from me is each story arc tend have far better "past" story sub-arc compare to "current time" story sub-arc.


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