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cdarklock, science cannot answer everything. Another is that carbon-dating can be wrong as well. Research and inquiry can't solve everything.
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Probably Neanderthals...

Provided you regard them as human.



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kadmos1 wrote:

cdarklock, science cannot answer everything.


It can, however, quite reliably answer "which of these two ancient things is older." You might be able to call into question whether either of those two things is quite as old as science says, but it will still put them in the right order.

Meanwhile, "magic invisble man in the sky did it" may answer everything, but this doesn't actually matter because that is usually the wrong answer.
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cdarklock

Whether you believe them or not, the accounts of creation in the scripture are not the result of research and inquiry. They are simply stories passed down from generation to generation.If they are true, research and inquiry will prove this. It is, however, tremendously likely that several thousand years playing the world's largest game of Telephone has introduced errors.

I put that quote in bold. With this quote, we could argue that every reliable historical record from ancient times were stories passed down for generation. Also, it is a theory of evolution (I will concede to Evolutionists that Creationist views can be deemed "theories"), yet so many believe it and write about as though it were a proven fact.
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We are technically all immigrants if you think hard enough. We all originated from Africa.

That's the current accepted theory. There's been recent discoveries that suggest otherwise though.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0177127






thank god for that lol
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You will see claims here and there about who were the first Americans. I didn't bother looking into it until they keep bring it up over and over .

Native American on Illegal Immigration- at Anti-immigration rally in AZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs7hhCzonEc




10,000 years from Africa
12,000 years from Northeast Asia
13,500 years from Southeast Asia



Africa or Asia either way i hit both squares for this one... We can have some good laughs about this at the dinner table.


i feel so ENTITLED right now!!! Please excuse me for a moment as i enter my "entitled mode"

You SHUT UP!! SHUT UP!!
You are all FUCKING ILLEGALS!! You are ALL ILLEGALS!! You are ALL ILLEGALS!!!
We didn't invite any of you here!! We didn't invite any of you here!!
We should put that sign up when you SON of BITCHES came!!
Get on with your bogus argument. Get on with it BITCHES!!!!

end rant... that felt good.. so this is what it's like being in the shoes of the "entitled".. no wonder they keep ranting on and on..


the national geographic article is from 2003 and to this day there are those who still claiming Native American/ American Indians were the first one here ?

I'll bookmark the article-- finally have something to shut them up every time they claim that my ancestors were invaders and they were here first..

honestly though ? we still care who were first ? if it's about bragging right then these findings debunked the Native Americans' claim of being first and giving that right to another group instead
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kadmos1 wrote:
With this quote, we could argue that every reliable historical record from ancient times were stories passed down for generation. Also, it is a theory of evolution (I will concede to Evolutionists that Creationist views can be deemed "theories"), yet so many believe it and write about as though it were a proven fact.


No, we couldn't.
Like many Creationists you also don't seem to know the difference between a theory and a scientific theory.
We have witnessed evolution in action during long term experiments. Which is far more than you can say for Creationism.




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People evolved from all sorts of mammalian animals, thats why so many look like dogs, cats, variety of primates, and even cows.

That is neither here nor there. Borders are a thing, and should be respected. If you want to cross them and stake a claim, you need to have a formal written notice of invasion with intent for claiming land. And be ready to defend yourself!
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Who the fuck cares who was first? I don't, I care about who is currently here, and that is the former British colonists who split off, then stormed their entire way across the continent and are now in charge today. We are called Americans because we are in charge of America. (or at least a very good chunk of it.)

Not trying to diss the Native American population. I have absolute respect for a culture that can live in harmony with mother nature, with literally no carbon footprint or any of that bullshit. There knowledge of the natural world was, and still is, incredible. But, such a way of life will cause said culture to have almost no technological advancement or innovation, as it is limited to working with mother nature and what she can and can't do. By the time the United States thought about expanding westward, they were still using stone age technology (though at least their warfare tactics were better.) vs 1800s firearms. As cumbersome as they are, they sure had a lot more range and stopping power. The worst part of it all, was said firearms were getting better and better as the united states expanded, while the Native American population could not keep up in the technological advancements. That alone would of been enough to dethrone them off the continental control. Also helps they were biologically isolated from many terrible diseases, and thus had no immunity to them, nor were nearly as unified. 100+ different tribes armed with sticks, stones and bones vs 1 united army with guns, cannons, and lots of metal. Easiest bet ever.

So, I don't care who is first, I care about who is now. United States is now, United States makes the rules. Everyone else can like them, tolerate them, or leave.
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OK, for those science-leaning/evolutionists, please use science to explain these points: there are documented cases of people on mission trips that will resurrect someone. From a scientific standpoint, how is it we can translate so many languages into Englis and vice versa (I subscribe to the theory the one language prior to the Tower of Babel was the parent of all languages)? Please explain how people who are dying of cancer today might be cured of it 2 days later (this excludes the potential benefit of chemo).
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dulun18 wrote:

You will see claims here and there about who were the first Americans. I didn't bother looking into it until they keep bring it up over and over .

Native American on Illegal Immigration- at Anti-immigration rally in AZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs7hhCzonEc




10,000 years from Africa
12,000 years from Northeast Asia
13,500 years from Southeast Asia



Africa or Asia either way i hit both squares for this one... We can have some good laughs about this at the dinner table.


i feel so ENTITLED right now!!! Please excuse me for a moment as i enter my "entitled mode"

You SHUT UP!! SHUT UP!!
You are all FUCKING ILLEGALS!! You are ALL ILLEGALS!! You are ALL ILLEGALS!!!
We didn't invite any of you here!! We didn't invite any of you here!!
We should put that sign up when you SON of BITCHES came!!
Get on with your bogus argument. Get on with it BITCHES!!!!

end rant... that felt good.. so this is what it's like being in the shoes of the "entitled".. no wonder they keep ranting on and on..


the national geographic article is from 2003 and to this day there are those who still claiming Native American/ American Indians were the first one here ?

I'll bookmark the article-- finally have something to shut them up every time they claim that my ancestors were invaders and they were here first..

honestly though ? we still care who were first ? if it's about bragging right then these findings debunked the Native Americans' claim of being first and giving that right to another group instead


it's the era of entitlement Even the criminals are demanding apology after getting shot by police

"privileges' ---each group has them but some will not admit it

If you are one of the interracial children you are the minority among the minorities. Children of multiple races, at least they will be more opened mind than most.
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Obviously the Native Americans? What does it matter whether they came from Asia or Africa? The point is they went there and lived there for thousands of years until somebody else stole the land from them and are now complaining about "immigrants".
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