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Think of someone whose politics you disagree with so vehemently that sometimes it makes you sick. Would you sit down and watch anime with that person?
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Why not? Hell, I'd discuss politics with them, if they wanted.
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Yeah probably, I never let Politics get in the way of anything. Political arguments usually don't bring anything positive to the table so I think it's best to just put it aside and find common ground with some other medium. Although sometimes its good to vent with politics.
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While being very political myself and not afraid to express my views, I think my profile kinda gives that away, I hate people who let Politics ruin their social lives, friendship and general common decency.

I myself have lost my best friend at the end of last year because he couldn't "stand my Racist Believes anymore" (his words). I tried my best to keep our friendship alive, but sadly, it wasn't meant to be.

I don't care if you are a Leftist or Socialist or whatever, as long as you are willing to have open discussion, or at least tolerate my possibly very different political views, I will gladly watch Anime with everyone.

Intolerance and an inability to have normal conversations with people with different opinions never comes from me, and never will.
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I use to... until I convinced such individuals to agree with me.
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Yeah... The day that I can't suck it up and behave decently is the day that I'm likely senile.
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If they made me sick, then hopefully I would have a good reason, perhaps due to being an asshole, excessively stupid, or so forth. I am friends with people who think the notion of transgenders is nonsense, who do not believe in healthcare, and so forth, or are Trump supporters. That being said, I dislike people who ALWAYS talk about politics, in a way that seems they are in need of an urgent circlejerk. I can't associate with anyone who is always 100% politically divisive, versus a politically active person. It is irritating.

Back on topic, my standards differ, but I usually have to consider their ideals, and I consider myself tolerant enough to not let it bother me, really. Normally, we'd have to be talking consciously racist, sexist to the point of excessive sexual entitlement, or most easily, just an asshole who would rather talk with their fist than think with their heads.
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Of Course Anime is a grease to squeaky wheel to smooth's interaction, unless your disagreeing on the Anime.
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I grew up in a democratic household and converted to a libertarian conservative. Most of my friends have quite different likes than me. I'd have more trouble getting people to watch anime with me than watching it with someone i disagred aith politically, unless they talk a lot during the anime then fuck them.


GakkouGurashi wrote:

While being very political myself and not afraid to express my views, I think my profile kinda gives that away, I hate people who let Politics ruin their social lives, friendship and general common decency.

I myself have lost my best friend at the end of last year because he couldn't "stand my Racist Believes anymore" (his words). I tried my best to keep our friendship alive, but sadly, it wasn't meant to be.

I don't care if you are a Leftist or Socialist or whatever, as long as you are willing to have open discussion, or at least tolerate my possibly very different political views, I will gladly watch Anime with everyone.

Intolerance and an inability to have normal conversations with people with different opinions never comes from me, and never will.


Yeah its pretty sad how the "tolerant" left cannot tolerate differing opinions. One of my friends I talk to all the time was a big time socialist, though working and paying taxes is starting to change even that.

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If they made me sick, then hopefully I would have a good reason, perhaps due to being an asshole, excessively stupid, or so forth. I am friends with people who think the notion of transgenders is nonsense, who do not believe in healthcare, and so forth, or are Trump supporters. That being said, I dislike people who ALWAYS talk about politics, in a way that seems they are in need of an urgent circlejerk. I can't associate with anyone who is always 100% politically divisive, versus a politically active person. It is irritating.

Back on topic, my standards differ, but I usually have to consider their ideals, and I consider myself tolerant enough to not let it bother me, really. Normally, we'd have to be talking consciously racist, sexist to the point of excessive sexual entitlement, or most easily, just an asshole who would rather talk with their fist than think with their heads.


Nice - you picked up on it. I wanted to emphasize the difference in political views in this scenario, and I also wanted to connect it to our visceral and emotional responses to political difference. So in that sense, I wanted to refer to very strong, and strongly felt, disagreement, not necessarily literally getting sick over it. But I did want to leave the literal interpretation there as well. And I agree with you, of course: such disagreements shouldn't make us sick unless they're very great - like clear, stubborn, and unsympathetic advocacy of harm against others. And let's assume that the person isn't just obsessed with politics to the point that they can't do or talk about anything else. I agree that such a person would be irritating to be around in general, but I feel like that's a different scenario. It's true society is producing such people, because we're being taught to define ourselves by our political views, but we can consider the situation of vehement disagreement separately from obsession with politics. (And let's assume we're not talking about watching anime with Hitler, or anyone else it'd be more appropriate to stab than watch anime with. Again, that's a different scenario.)

Anyway, with those caveats, actually being sickened by someone's political views, or in general becoming emotionally/viscerally affected, are subjective things. And that's really the line I wanted to bring up. Because not everyone has a ready-made answer to this that they've thought through, like you have. And even if they do, that might be their theoretical answer, and not how they actually behave.
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Yeah, because I'd tell them to shut up and stop talking over the characters, so we wouldn't talk about politics. Problem solved. Peace via anime and the quiet game.
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That depends. Certain people on the boards? NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL.

Some of my right wing people I know irl? Yea. In fact I am one of three of my friends who are liberal, the others are all right wing. I have no issues watching anime with them. We have a lot of fun...

But some of these people on the boards... heh. I could never see myself enjoying being in their presence. They seem so malignant and anti human-rights that I could never in good conscience enjoy being with them.
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I dont really watch anime with many people, but i guess anime was just an example and maybe what you're asking dose not need to be anime specifically?
Anyhow, well yeah i do hang with or work with or have people on facebook with different political views than me. I can still hang with or do stuff/watch stuff with people with different views.
Not sure i'd go out of my way to watch anime(or anything) with people who's political views and opinions i cant stand but it's not to say that i would refuse to.
Wont lie though, there's a couple of people that i know where i really am against how they feel politically and i would prefer not to watch anime with them.
But again it's more of a i wouldn't go out of my way. I like to be open minded and tolerant. And as others have said, if you're just watching anime and not taling politics then there really should be no problem.


Dark_Alma wrote:

That depends. Certain people on the boards? NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL.

Some of my right wing people I know irl? Yea. In fact I am one of three of my friends who are liberal, the others are all right wing. I have no issues watching anime with them. We have a lot of fun...

But some of these people on the boards... heh. I could never see myself enjoying being in their presence. They seem so malignant and anti human-rights that I could never in good conscience enjoy being with them.


ha ha i have to agree with you there. Some of the people here not a god dammed chance in hell. And i know that the feeling is well and truely mutual. lol

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Honestly? No. If our world-views differ so much that theirs make me sick, it's unlikey I'll been hanging out with them. Moreover, I'd rather watch anime alone, anyway.
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auroraloose wrote:

Think of someone whose politics you disagree with so vehemently that sometimes it makes you sick. Would you sit down and watch anime with that person?


If I disagreed with someone on politics, with my personality, I would have to EXTREMELY disagree with them in order to not want to hang out with them. However, when I have a disagreement on a political issue, I'm quick to make my point - and in my experience, it is most common for the other person to simply put their fingers in their ears (metaphorically speaking) and shut off any conversation through their own volition.

In the rare cases that I can have a good discussion with someone else despite our differences, and sometimes even come to agreements on points of mutual interest, then I've made friends that way. Being able to discuss and get along is often more important than agreeing on any specific issue, because the potential to agree "in the future" or to come to a mutual understanding is still there.

I would definitely sit down and watch anime with such a person. However, I doubt such a situation would ever happen.

I mean, I'm not the kind of person who can "feel sick" over disagreements of politics in the vast majority of cases, anyway. You believing in say, outlawing abortion or banning gay marriage or something I wouldn't see as a large enough disagreement to hate you, only to find you misguided. If you however believed that women who tried to get abortions should be gravely punished (rather than making it simply hard to get abortions), or you believed that homosexuals should be killed or forced to go through "conversion therapy," then I might have a problem with you.

It's a matter of scale, really. I understand however that appreciating something like anime (or any form of entertainment or art, really) can transcend political boundaries much of the time, and there's no reason to bring things like that into your shared enjoyment. On the other hand, I see no reason why I would ever be in this situation of sitting down next to someone who makes me sick, anyway.

If your main point is that I disagree on politics, then my answer is yes: I would sit down with them. If your main point is that they actually made me sick however, then my answer is no, I would not. Fortunately, it rarely happens to me that I suddenly feel "sick" due to someone's political views alone. I have a fairly high bar and my morality can be a bit more flexible than most (in certain situations), so to me, being able to discuss and enjoy things as fellow human beings can often be more important than agreement on specific issues.
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