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Posted 7/4/17

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Ryulightorb wrote:


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Child abuse.


it's stupid but this doesn't count as child abuse.

I hope you are trolling as retarded as this is it does no harm.


Child abuse: "physical maltreatment or sexual molestation of a child."

Or by most governments including america

"There are four different types of child abuse:

physical abuse
sexual abuse
emotional abuse
neglect."


1. Physical - nope
2. Sexual abuse ? NOPE
Emotional abuse - Nope
Neglect- nope.

So no by definition it's not child abuse even if it is stupid as fuck unless you want to argue a new meaning for child abuse or neglect.

Though i will say this is wrong messed up and stupid as fuck.


Actually its child abuse, because that kid gonna be make fun of at school! Also He/She going be highly pissed!


Well not unless someone see's their birth certificate they will still be called a male/female depending on their sex.

I don't know about you but i wouldn't let children see my own kids birth certificate that's none of their business.
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redokami wrote:


GundamQueen wrote:

Am I the only one who thinks this reminds me of Shezow, that one animated show from 2012 that I found to be very offensive to transgender and cross-dressing people?




Link plz

Here's the intro if you don't know anything about SheZow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhC54PEGNPQ
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Well, this is ignorant and ill-informed. There was an experiment in the 1990s maybe the 1980s... where several children were not assigned genders on their birth certificate and the parents were all told to raise the children without gender specific stimuli. No putting them in pink or blue, no dolls or trucks to influence the gender. The children were allowed to choose. If I recall their lack of gender assignment had little to no effect on their development and even allowed the children to embrace their own sexuality more freely when they hit puberty and their genders became more obvious.

Most recently a couple raised their child without gender in the UK. I think that began in 2011 and may have recently ended with some rather hateful backlash, but for the most part it was concluded that gender conformity is a learned behavior and without that initial pressure to conform the child can grow up to be more open minded, intellectually and creatively diverse and more comfortable with themselves.

Ultimately, you all need to realize that the kid isn't yours so your opinions don't mean sh*t.
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Child abuse.


^ This
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Well, this is ignorant and ill-informed. There was an experiment in the 1990s maybe the 1980s... where several children were not assigned genders on their birth certificate and the parents were all told to raise the children without gender specific stimuli. No putting them in pink or blue, no dolls or trucks to influence the gender. The children were allowed to choose. If I recall their lack of gender assignment had little to no effect on their development and even allowed the children to embrace their own sexuality more freely when they hit puberty and their genders became more obvious.

Most recently a couple raised their child without gender in the UK. I think that began in 2011 and may have recently ended with some rather hateful backlash, but for the most part it was concluded that gender conformity is a learned behavior and without that initial pressure to conform the child can grow up to be more open minded, intellectually and creatively diverse and more comfortable with themselves.

Ultimately, you all need to realize that the kid isn't yours so your opinions don't mean sh*t.



Ultimately, you all need to realize that the kid isn't yours so your opinions don't mean sh*t.


Wrong!!

This is an internet forum our opinions is all that matters here.

If this was a legal discussion inside of court case related to this issue then yes, our opinions would mean shit and the parents opinions are those that should be considered.
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bigpinky wrote:

Well, this is ignorant and ill-informed. There was an experiment in the 1990s maybe the 1980s... where several children were not assigned genders on their birth certificate and the parents were all told to raise the children without gender specific stimuli. No putting them in pink or blue, no dolls or trucks to influence the gender. The children were allowed to choose. If I recall their lack of gender assignment had little to no effect on their development and even allowed the children to embrace their own sexuality more freely when they hit puberty and their genders became more obvious.

Most recently a couple raised their child without gender in the UK. I think that began in 2011 and may have recently ended with some rather hateful backlash, but for the most part it was concluded that gender conformity is a learned behavior and without that initial pressure to conform the child can grow up to be more open minded, intellectually and creatively diverse and more comfortable with themselves.

Ultimately, you all need to realize that the kid isn't yours so your opinions don't mean sh*t.




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Posted 7/4/17

Ryulightorb wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Child abuse.


it's stupid but this doesn't count as child abuse.

I hope you are trolling as retarded as this is it does no harm.


Child abuse: "physical maltreatment or sexual molestation of a child."

Or by most governments including america

"There are four different types of child abuse:

physical abuse
sexual abuse
emotional abuse
neglect."


1. Physical - nope
2. Sexual abuse ? NOPE
Emotional abuse - Nope
Neglect- nope.

So no by definition it's not child abuse even if it is stupid as fuck unless you want to argue a new meaning for child abuse or neglect.

Though i will say this is wrong messed up and stupid as fuck.


Actually its child abuse, because that kid gonna be make fun of at school! Also He/She going be highly pissed!


Well not unless someone see's their birth certificate they will still be called a male/female depending on their sex.

I don't know about you but i wouldn't let children see my own kids birth certificate that's none of their business.


Trust me they gonna figured out. That kid will tell his so call friend that he doesn't understand what Penis and pussy is.. And his friends gonna be like HUH! Think about it, some of those kids will go to restroom in school and noticed that he never standing up peeing.. Or he might show it off saying see I got none, and they gonna freak out and call him freak of nature.

Think about it... They going to find out one way or another. Wait a min.. How the hell this kid going to pee if he got no pussy or penis?!?

Ok, I think I need a drink..err I just remembered i don't drink.
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Posted 7/4/17

bigpinky wrote:

Well, this is ignorant and ill-informed. There was an experiment in the 1990s maybe the 1980s... where several children were not assigned genders on their birth certificate and the parents were all told to raise the children without gender specific stimuli. No putting them in pink or blue, no dolls or trucks to influence the gender. The children were allowed to choose. If I recall their lack of gender assignment had little to no effect on their development and even allowed the children to embrace their own sexuality more freely when they hit puberty and their genders became more obvious.

Most recently a couple raised their child without gender in the UK. I think that began in 2011 and may have recently ended with some rather hateful backlash, but for the most part it was concluded that gender conformity is a learned behavior and without that initial pressure to conform the child can grow up to be more open minded, intellectually and creatively diverse and more comfortable with themselves.

Ultimately, you all need to realize that the kid isn't yours so your opinions don't mean sh*t.


Trust me, that Kid gonna hate it! He/she gonna feel alone in the world.
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Posted 7/4/17

JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Child abuse.


it's stupid but this doesn't count as child abuse.

I hope you are trolling as retarded as this is it does no harm.


Child abuse: "physical maltreatment or sexual molestation of a child."

Or by most governments including america

"There are four different types of child abuse:

physical abuse
sexual abuse
emotional abuse
neglect."


1. Physical - nope
2. Sexual abuse ? NOPE
Emotional abuse - Nope
Neglect- nope.

So no by definition it's not child abuse even if it is stupid as fuck unless you want to argue a new meaning for child abuse or neglect.

Though i will say this is wrong messed up and stupid as fuck.


Actually its child abuse, because that kid gonna be make fun of at school! Also He/She going be highly pissed!


Well not unless someone see's their birth certificate they will still be called a male/female depending on their sex.

I don't know about you but i wouldn't let children see my own kids birth certificate that's none of their business.


Trust me they gonna figured out. That kid will tell his so call friend that he doesn't understand what Penis and pussy is.. And his friends gonna be like HUH! Think about it, some of those kids will go to restroom in school and noticed that he never standing up peeing.. Or he might show it off saying see I got none, and they gonna freak out and call him freak of nature.

Think about it... They going to find out one way or another. Wait a min.. How the hell this kid going to pee if he got no pussy or penis?!?

Ok, I think I need a drink..err I just remembered i don't drink.


That still by no definition makes it abuse.
They won't find out unless someone leaks it which is unlikely.
Also you say they won't know what genitals are well sex ed exists and they would likely get it nothing indicates they wouldn't.
You are being kinda silly your either born with one or the other and that's your sex and nothing can change that from a cellular level yet.

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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Child abuse.


^ This


We might as well classify giving kids feminine or names that they would get bullied for child abuse or other things that aren't child abuse, child abuse if we are dropping the bar for child abuse this low.

had a chat to a father of two about this earlier and he laughed his head off when he heard people were calling this child abuse pretty much like I did there is a difference between stupid choices that shouldn't be allowed and child abuse but just like everything is racist and offensive people are calling anything abuse today
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Ryulightorb wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Child abuse.


it's stupid but this doesn't count as child abuse.

I hope you are trolling as retarded as this is it does no harm.


Child abuse: "physical maltreatment or sexual molestation of a child."

Or by most governments including america

"There are four different types of child abuse:

physical abuse
sexual abuse
emotional abuse
neglect."


1. Physical - nope
2. Sexual abuse ? NOPE
Emotional abuse - Nope
Neglect- nope.

So no by definition it's not child abuse even if it is stupid as fuck unless you want to argue a new meaning for child abuse or neglect.

Though i will say this is wrong messed up and stupid as fuck.


Actually its child abuse, because that kid gonna be make fun of at school! Also He/She going be highly pissed!


Well not unless someone see's their birth certificate they will still be called a male/female depending on their sex.

I don't know about you but i wouldn't let children see my own kids birth certificate that's none of their business.


Trust me they gonna figured out. That kid will tell his so call friend that he doesn't understand what Penis and pussy is.. And his friends gonna be like HUH! Think about it, some of those kids will go to restroom in school and noticed that he never standing up peeing.. Or he might show it off saying see I got none, and they gonna freak out and call him freak of nature.

Think about it... They going to find out one way or another. Wait a min.. How the hell this kid going to pee if he got no pussy or penis?!?

Ok, I think I need a drink..err I just remembered i don't drink.


That still by no definition makes it abuse.
They won't find out unless someone leaks it which is unlikely.
Also you say they won't know what genitals are well sex ed exists and they would likely get it nothing indicates they wouldn't.
You are being kinda silly your either born with one or the other and that's your sex and nothing can change that from a cellular level yet.



Wait a min, I thought this was about some parent decided to make the kid ungender by cutting off his penis/taking out pussy. And wanting to label it as ungender... because that parent believe in LGB whatever the hell it is call.. That what I meant by Abuse because they didn't let the kid choose once he/she reach the right age to decide if she is male or female.. but in my opinion I think kid will be confuse.
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Posted 7/4/17

JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Child abuse.


it's stupid but this doesn't count as child abuse.

I hope you are trolling as retarded as this is it does no harm.


Child abuse: "physical maltreatment or sexual molestation of a child."

Or by most governments including america

"There are four different types of child abuse:

physical abuse
sexual abuse
emotional abuse
neglect."


1. Physical - nope
2. Sexual abuse ? NOPE
Emotional abuse - Nope
Neglect- nope.

So no by definition it's not child abuse even if it is stupid as fuck unless you want to argue a new meaning for child abuse or neglect.

Though i will say this is wrong messed up and stupid as fuck.


Actually its child abuse, because that kid gonna be make fun of at school! Also He/She going be highly pissed!


Well not unless someone see's their birth certificate they will still be called a male/female depending on their sex.

I don't know about you but i wouldn't let children see my own kids birth certificate that's none of their business.


Trust me they gonna figured out. That kid will tell his so call friend that he doesn't understand what Penis and pussy is.. And his friends gonna be like HUH! Think about it, some of those kids will go to restroom in school and noticed that he never standing up peeing.. Or he might show it off saying see I got none, and they gonna freak out and call him freak of nature.

Think about it... They going to find out one way or another. Wait a min.. How the hell this kid going to pee if he got no pussy or penis?!?

Ok, I think I need a drink..err I just remembered i don't drink.


That still by no definition makes it abuse.
They won't find out unless someone leaks it which is unlikely.
Also you say they won't know what genitals are well sex ed exists and they would likely get it nothing indicates they wouldn't.
You are being kinda silly your either born with one or the other and that's your sex and nothing can change that from a cellular level yet.



Wait a min, I thought this was about some parent decided to make the kid ungender by cutting off his penis/taking out pussy. And wanting to label it as ungender... because that parent believe in LGB whatever the hell it is call.. That what I meant by Abuse because they didn't let the kid choose once he/she reach the right age to decide if she is male or female.. but in my opinion I think kid will be confuse.


No that's not dear god if it was that would be abuse.
From what I read they wrote his gender as Unknown because they believe he should pick it (silly or not aside)(obviously they would tell him his sex is male I hope otherwise that would be abuse)

Doctors didn't let it happen which is good the reasoning for that is gender is on there for sex to determine the sex of the child.
The parents just have their belief on gender as a social construct and don't believe on choosing something for their child whether that is right wrong or insane is another story but by itself it does little harm.

What you were thinkig though is abuse and sick
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Thoughts?


I'm sure the therapist that kid has in the future will make a pretty buck.
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Posted 7/5/17 , edited 7/5/17

Ryulightorb wrote:

my question is why is gender even on the form and why isn't it written as sex.

I know alot of people consider gender and sex the same and interchangeable but any birth certificate should have it as Sex you would imagine that's how it is here atleast just seems kinda stupid to me.


Once upon a time, people and documents weren't mocked for using the full definition of "gender." If the birth certificate format was rendered prior to the push of barring the use of "gender" as an umbrella term, about ten or so years ago, it's possible. That said; it's likely what the story is fabricated.
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Posted 7/5/17 , edited 7/5/17

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Why don't we just rid ourselves of humanity, and create robots...that way, gender is a non-issue?


Gender never has been an issue before. It's today's social argument flavor. This is an easy fix. Why try to separate the human race into more sub categories? It divides us. I try not to think of myself as a black, but as a human. It's worked wonders for my attitude and self image. The funny thing is, the more specific I describe myself, the less it is me. I've spent most of my life trying to remove labels on people and myself, and here are people trying stacking more onto themselves. Why? does it make them feel special? Whatever the case, Don't label me, it's an insult. We are one. "Kill all humans", Bender.
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