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CNN blackmails person the 4th of July because of Trump Wrestling meme
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Posted 7/5/17 , edited 7/5/17

Rujikin wrote:

Unless you doxxed him yourself then you won't know their age so don't pretend like you magically know the answer either.


Well, through as much digging as I could do in a short period, I found archived reddit posts stating that he was much older than 15. We also have CNN vehemently stating that he is a middle aged man.

On the other side, I have seen no archived posts stating anything to the contrary and no evidence beyond a random /pol/ user.

That said, I shouldn't make concrete statements about it. I should say "all evidence that I am aware of indicates that the user is a middle aged man".
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15 or 40 doesn't really matter plus assuming the person is 40 their is a decent chance he has kids who could be affected if he was doxxed
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As for the rest, come off it. You don't know me. I don't believe we have ever even interacted before. You know, about a year ago people were calling me a conservative and assuming my values. Nothing has changed. I just call it as I see it.




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This entire story is a bunch of baloney.

I know because I'm the one who made it up.

You can all go home.
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sundin13 wrote:

It's up to the mods how to handle it. I am not a mod. They can decide whether or not it is worthy of action.

As for the rest, come off it. You don't know me. I don't believe we have ever even interacted before. You know, about a year ago people were calling me a conservative and assuming my values. Nothing has changed. I just call it as I see it.


When were you ever a conservative? I've been debating with you for like 2-3 years now and you have never been a conservative on any issue we disagreed on.
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Posted 7/5/17

Rujikin wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

It's up to the mods how to handle it. I am not a mod. They can decide whether or not it is worthy of action.

As for the rest, come off it. You don't know me. I don't believe we have ever even interacted before. You know, about a year ago people were calling me a conservative and assuming my values. Nothing has changed. I just call it as I see it.


When were you ever a conservative? I've been debating with you for like 2-3 years now and you have never been a conservative on any issue we disagreed on.


A while back (not sure exactly how long. "About a year" is probably inaccurate but I'm terrible with time) the forum was big into feminism. At the time I was subbed to Sargon of Akkad, Dr Randomercam, tl;dr and others in the anti-feminist community and I frequently debated feminism-related topics, typically taking up anti-feminist positions. This led to few users assuming that I was a conservative.

Since then, the forums have largely changed and are now dominated by stuff I disagree with coming from the right, so people assume I'm a liberal.
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The network needs a management and staff change from the top down. From trying to rig a Democratic debate, to lying to viewers that people could get in trouble to reading the leaked emails, to pushing stories without much to back them up, to backmailing people this network knows no low.
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The network needs a management and staff change from the top down. From trying to rig a Democratic debate, to lying to viewers that people could get in trouble to reading the leaked emails, to pushing stories without much to back them up, to backmailing people this network knows no low.


Which news organization would be a more preferable model for CNN to follow?
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Posted 7/5/17

sundin13 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

It's up to the mods how to handle it. I am not a mod. They can decide whether or not it is worthy of action.

As for the rest, come off it. You don't know me. I don't believe we have ever even interacted before. You know, about a year ago people were calling me a conservative and assuming my values. Nothing has changed. I just call it as I see it.


When were you ever a conservative? I've been debating with you for like 2-3 years now and you have never been a conservative on any issue we disagreed on.


A while back (not sure exactly how long. "About a year" is probably inaccurate but I'm terrible with time) the forum was big into feminism. At the time I was subbed to Sargon of Akkad, Dr Randomercam, tl;dr and others in the anti-feminist community and I frequently debated feminism-related topics, typically taking up anti-feminist positions. This led to few users assuming that I was a conservative.

Since then, the forums have largely changed and are now dominated by stuff I disagree with coming from the right, so people assume I'm a liberal.


Well to most of them if you're slightly left of a Neo-Nazi you're a liberal
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Well to most of them if you're slightly left of a Neo-Nazi you're a liberal


Haha, while I've definitely seen that, my point was largely that this occurs on both sides. As soon as you disagree with some people, they assume your values and who you are and think that they know all of your political positions. I think that attitude is telling of an individual's adoption of partisanship. It tells me that they prescribe to the identity of politics instead of the ideas. They choose to embody "conservativism" or "progressivism" instead of actually analyzing their positions and coming up with a completely defined and nuanced perspective which holds different opinions all over the political map.

Typically, when someone calls me a "liberal" or a "conservative", I think that this person isn't really worth talking to because they haven't gone far enough to develop their own nuanced understandings. They are arguing as an ideology, they are not arguing as an individual.

Note: I'm not accusing anyone specifically of this. I don't know that original user well enough to say who they are or what they believe. That is just a trend I've observed.
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Posted 7/5/17 , edited 7/5/17

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kevz_210 wrote:

The network needs a management and staff change from the top down. From trying to rig a Democratic debate, to lying to viewers that people could get in trouble to reading the leaked emails, to pushing stories without much to back them up, to backmailing people this network knows no low.


Which news organization would be a more preferable model for CNN to follow?


Hmm, major news network.... that's a tough question, most of the major ones aren't doing the greatest of jobs at the moment, I mostly listen to local news network affiliates that seem to be a lot more objective in their reporting. With radio you have NPR and BBC which are eons better than most of the mainstream stuff, but when it comes to visual media I feel like the only watchable option is to watch a combination of Conservative and Liberal commentators on Youtube and make my own opinion from there. Print media probably even worse at the moment, you have WaPo and NY Times practically acting as propaganda outlets for the left and Breitbart doing the same on the right, at least the cable tv networks make a half assed attempt to pretend otherwise.

You got me stumped at the moment, I feel like when I was younger you'd see news anchors who were on television for decades that really seemed to do a more balanced job (at least on the major broadcast networks), but now it seems like most of the "young blood" has an "us" against "them" mentality. Basically, the actual reporters need to be more neutral and the pundits need to act mature and do more than screaming over the opposition, maybe have some real debate for a change.

TL;DR None of the major ones at the moment, although I suppose the broadcast networks (NBC, CBS) are doing a little bit better than their cable counterparts (CNN, MSNBC, FOX). ABC/Freeform can get thrown in with the cable networks though, definitely in the lower tier of credibility at the moment

Tiers:
Good: Network affiliates
Meh: CBS, NBC,
Bad: MSNBC, FOX, ABC/Freeform
Really Bad: CNN
Actual propaganda: RT
News? Entertainment? Parody?: Info Wars
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21stCenturyGemini wrote:

Why has a new Donald thread been started separate from the ongoing one?


The primary focus of this thread is that shit show of a company, CNN.
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Posted 7/5/17 , edited 7/5/17

kevz_210 wrote:


21stCenturyGemini wrote:


kevz_210 wrote:

The network needs a management and staff change from the top down. From trying to rig a Democratic debate, to lying to viewers that people could get in trouble to reading the leaked emails, to pushing stories without much to back them up, to backmailing people this network knows no low.


Which news organization would be a more preferable model for CNN to follow?


Hmm, major news network.... that's a tough question, most of the major ones aren't doing the greatest of jobs at the moment, I mostly listen to local news network affiliates that seem to be a lot more objective in their reporting. With radio you have NPR and BBC which are eons better than most of the mainstream stuff, but when it comes to visual media I feel like the only watchable option is to watch a combination of Conservative and Liberal commentators on Youtube and make my own opinion from there. Print media probably even worse at the moment, you have WaPo and NY Times practically acting as propaganda outlets for the left and Breitbart doing the same on the right, at least the cable tv networks make a half assed attempt to pretend otherwise.

You got me stumped at the moment, I feel like when I was younger you'd see news anchors who were on television for decades that really seemed to do a more balanced job (at least on the major broadcast networks), but now it seems like most of the "young blood" has an "us" against "them" mentality. Basically, the actual reporters need to be more neutral and the pundits need to act mature and do more than screaming over the opposition, maybe have some real debate for a change.

TL;DR None of the major ones at the moment, although I suppose the broadcast networks (NBC, CBS) are doing a little bit better than their cable counterparts (CNN, MSNBC, FOX). ABC/Freeform can get thrown in with the cable networks though, definitely in the lower tier of credibility at the moment

Tiers:
Good: Network affiliates
Meh: CBS, NBC,
Bad: MSNBC, FOX, ABC/Freeform
Really Bad: CNN
Actual propaganda: RT
News? Entertainment? Parody?: Info Wars


What I find helpful is to follow news agencies that sell stories wholesale. That way you're less likely to run into bias because they don't have a uniform demographic to pander to.
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CNN royally fucked up, which caused /pol/ to drop doxx on a lot of the people who are high and mighty at CNN.
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Posted 7/5/17 , edited 7/5/17
HAHA! Wow Infowars is offering 20K in a meme contest about CNN. Alex Jones is literally a professional troll/shitposter: https://www.infowars.com/20k-prize-infowars-great-cnn-meme-war-contest-announced/

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