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It put me to sleep. If you're gonna do a theme like this, do shit like the Exorcist, that one movie about the Sin-eaters, that would be amazing as an anime.
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The first episode was very rushed, abrupt feeling; kind of jarring at times. Going into a murder in episode 1 felt over the top, and now in episode 2 we have the classic "closed circle" and "ten little Indians" murders tropes; tbh I'm disappointed since I was expecting scientific examination of unexplained phenomena to be the focus of this one, not a murder mystery.
It feels like there's too much going on here.


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Well at least they explained all the German names, guess we'll have to wait and see what the deal is with all the devil worship.

For what it's worth, there was German emigration to Mexico in the 1800s, so even without them being recent emigrants I guess it's plausible; there's even a large Mennonite community apparently.

Kind of odd reason for the priest not to want them to examine the dead founders room "his spirit resides in there", uh aren't you Catholic and believe his spirit went to heaven (or purgatory if you're old school).

Yeah, I also thought that didn't make sense.


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This show makes me nostalgic for Cadfael. That's kind of it.

Hey, thanks for your post. I had never heard of Cadfael before and it seems interesting. The only other medieval murder mystery I was aware of was "The Name of the Rose"
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As a mystery, this show is fairly weak. Clue dropping is awkward if it happens at all. Where's the excitement of misdirection? Where are the innocuous clues that suddenly jump out? Feels more like the dry recounting of a detective's daily activity log – rather boring. Hope episode 3 proves me wrong with a well-wrought trick because I'm just not getting the feel for the writing of this show.
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Insomnist wrote:

This show makes me nostalgic for Cadfael. That's kind of it.

Hey, thanks for your post. I had never heard of Cadfael before and it seems interesting. The only other medieval murder mystery I was aware of was "The Name of the Rose"

Happy to spread the word. No idea how the TV series holds up but I'm rather fond of the books.
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Episode 3

The next clue is the name Heinrich after finding the other half of that label. Then there is Carlos being possessed by the devil that is actually the work of a stimulant drug that he was forced to take. And then there's Mary saying she was pregnant with a child where it turns out she's the adopted daughter of Michael Brown, who came secretly came on a German WWII airship. Then there is Heinrich that acts as a charity organization, but it is just a facade for making shady deals to make money. Lots of interesting truths are uncovered as these guys are doing a great disservice to God in the name of God. And then there's that attacker at the end as things for this case are reaching the end.
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The last part of the ep .... literally scared the shit out of me ... srsly ... not good for my heart XD
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Posted 7/21/17 , edited 7/21/17
Strangely, I still can't quite make up my mind about what I think of this. Is it an interesting mix of mystery and religion (with a few other bits thrown in) or is it just the usual ham-handed effort to pile too many themes in to one anime without being very true to any? I mean a story about Catholic priests who investigate questionable religious phenomenon using science, logic, and knowledge should be gold, but somehow this seems to me feel more like the normal cliché plotlines, with as many twisted deaths thrown in, plus now the usual corrupt conspiracy.

I do want to mention that there was one moment that I thought was the highlight of this episode. When they discovered that it wasn't a case of possession but drugs, they faulted themselves for rushing to judgement and exorcism. While I won't say the 'not real possession' wasn't predictable, I found their reaction a nice human touch. Though I'm not sure if two (I believe) experienced investigators would have been quite so credulous as to believe in a demon possession just like that, especially in the middle of a case full of other suspicious events. I'd imagine investigators like them, if there are any, would quickly see a great many fake cases of possession.
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Nazis, drug sealers, and pedophiles oh my. I had to laugh when they said ' who would of thought a Catholic priest would abuse one of his parishioners' This is starting to remind me of X-files where they're now scientifically debunking supernatural phenomenon. Have to admit I didn't think this would hold my interest but it has, and that damn skeleton at the end actually made me jump, well played Vatican Miracle Examiners. Well played.
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I'm bothered by the lack of character beats in the two leads. We know that one has a younger brother who is in a wheelchair - but other than one being a science geek and the other into old books, that's about all. We can assume these two work together, eat together, sleep in the same room; but does one snore? Have irritating habits? Be overly fastidious or walk around in his underwear? The little things that would make them *people* to us, the audience, are missing. They're just puppets for moving the mystery plot along, and it prevents me from getting invested in them.
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Episode 4

I knew that it was that zombie's blood that was spilled and the one show shot him is McGee, who belongs to an organization in charge of making sure the Nazi legacy stays dead. So this whole church group turns out to be run by a thug who is brainwashing the followers to revive the Nazi party. The one who started this was Heinrich Muller, who escaped capture and became Mikhail Brown to hide his identity, and the ringleader behind this cult that was responsible for these murders is Thomas Simeon. To do that, an underground lab produced the drugs and distributed through the aqueducts. Of course, Thomas was no match for the "holy water" that Hiraga used on him, which is actually a bottle of sulfuric acid. As for how Mary got pregnant, those bastards inserted Hitler's cryogenetically preserved sperm into her, but she decides to keep him understanding that the baby won't necessarily become another Hitler. That was quite an elaborate scheme there, but Hiraga knew that something was amiss, and boy was it big time.

So with that, this case is closed, and so is my time with this show as I was only planning to watch this until this case was closed. I don't feel up for any more of this.
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Almost did a spit take when this happened. Lol.
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Posted 7/29/17

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Almost did a spit take when this happened. Lol.


So far the biggest fantasy in the show LOL

Good conclusion though don't get why the kid suddenly became like his dad, and really? You're just going to let baby Hitler live? I am sorry but this is one instance where everyone can agree to be pro-abortion.

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Creepy X 1000 -Hitlers DNA wtf?
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Posted 7/29/17
After seeing the conclusion to this mystery and how it was solved, I'll stick with my last comment. I really wish they had stuck with the simple premise of two Vatican priests who travel about and investigate questionable religious phenomenon, and kept the focus on their investigation in a more CSI manner. I would definitely have preferred a mix of science and faith (where does one stop and the other begin?) low key approach to this premise than what we got. Drugs, Nazis, Satan worshipers, and a bit of insanity thrown in there for good measure. In fact they threw in just about everything except a dog and the kitchen sink.
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