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Posted 7/9/17

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Only Asia and Africa have a population issue. Americas and Europe are fine.


Right, but land and housing is getting increasingly expensive, not sure if it is an Asian thing


Try looking at housing prices when compared to gold. Its not that everything is becoming more expensive its that our dollar is becoming more worthless as we accumulate more debt.

Also there has been a trend to move into giant crowded cities where demand for housing already exceeds supply so prices increase.
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America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management.


Not really. They're enormously rich in natural resources, have tons of unexploited land in Canada and Russia that's becoming easier to settle with modern means, and they do not have growing population numbers. Plus, they use some of the most advanced, efficient resource exploitation methods known.

The third world will just become irrelevant unless they attract business investments with their cheap labor. They have plenty of land and resources, themselves, but poor means of exploiting them currently.
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it would have to be pretty shallow.
and it would have to be nuclear. its the power that gets you.
it would have to be pretty close to self sustaining.
your biggest problem will be people.
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sinoakayumi wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Only Asia and Africa have a population issue. Americas and Europe are fine.


America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management. Their individualistic culture mean that their population live in small nuclear family, which take a lot of space, instead of extended family. The middle class American family did worsen this problem by forcing their babies to sleep in isolated room so their children learn to be self-centered, rebelious, and uncooperative. Their need for material posession as a form of social status create an unsustainable lifestyle. The Westerners sustain their lifestyle with puppet governments in the third world who rob from third world citizen to serve Western business.


Why don't you try actually meeting an American before you make such an evaluation of their society
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sinoakayumi wrote:

America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management.


You kidding? You need to go on a road trip across the USA, especially when our drop in births and empty, government-owned land are taken into account. Overpopulation isn't going to be an issue anytime soon, discounting buffoons who only want to squeeze like sardines into already-crowded cities. Culture alone certainly doesn't cause the overpopulation you desire. Yeah, you clearly despise Europe and the USA, but karma or whatever your fueling your assessment on simply doesn't work that way.
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Cardamom_Ginger wrote:


sinoakayumi wrote:

America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management.


You kidding? You need to go on a road trip across the USA, especially when our drop in births and empty, government-owned land are taken into account. Overpopulation isn't going to be an issue anytime soon, discounting buffoons who only want to squeeze like sardines into already-crowded cities. Culture alone certainly doesn't cause the overpopulation you desire. Yeah, you clearly despise Europe and the USA, but karma or whatever your fueling your assessment on simply doesn't work that way.


yeah, i call bull. im dirt broke, and i can still buy land in 4 years.
hell, if cut my spending in half, i can buy a lot in 4 months. theres is a whole damn field full if them just sittin empty.
overcrowding is a long way from happening.
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under the sea

under the sea

under the water where it is hotter
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Cardamom_Ginger wrote:


sinoakayumi wrote:

America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management.


You kidding? You need to go on a road trip across the USA, especially when our drop in births and empty, government-owned land are taken into account. Overpopulation isn't going to be an issue anytime soon, discounting buffoons who only want to squeeze like sardines into already-crowded cities. Culture alone certainly doesn't cause the overpopulation you desire. Yeah, you clearly despise Europe and the USA, but karma or whatever your fueling your assessment on simply doesn't work that way.


Alright, you got me. I've always been comparing the east and the west. Why is it that my salary is only 1400 dollars a month in Taiwan when I can be earning 50k a year in US being a US citizen. It's not like you guys are treating me bad, but hey people here needs a living too. Now I can't really be complaining if we are exporting sub quality products and bad working attitude. Which is not the case for many here, yes I slack off at work . The salary remained like this for the last 20 years and we complain that the government, especially the president, did not give us a raise and kept the same salary for 20 years, if not less. But my thought is that the salary is kept this way not because of the government, but by the world.
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But the problem is a project like this would require an incredible amount of effort and resources. Possibly more than any one group or government has. So such a project would likely require cooperation between multiple countires. Not half hearted cooperation but absolute. And given how most countries are these days I just don't see that kind of cooperation happening.


I agree 100%. One country alone can not accomplish this. Which is why it is our manifest destiny to conquer and enslave Canada and Mexico. If we funnel all the resources of those two nations into Atlantis, it should be a pretty good start.
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kinga750 wrote:


Metazoxan wrote:
But the problem is a project like this would require an incredible amount of effort and resources. Possibly more than any one group or government has. So such a project would likely require cooperation between multiple countires. Not half hearted cooperation but absolute. And given how most countries are these days I just don't see that kind of cooperation happening.


I agree 100%. One country alone can not accomplish this. Which is why it is our manifest destiny to conquer and enslave Canada and Mexico. If we funnel all the resources of those two nations into Atlantis, it should be a pretty good start.


Taiwan is an island, we do not have much resources lol, but if the salary is kept at a ratio, rather, the resources would flow into one with higher salary like osmosis.


P.S But thanks for the kindness, we could use some support, all hail Atlantis!
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wasnt there a game about sea colonization....
dont think it ended too well......
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wasnt there a game about sea colonization....
dont think it ended too well......


Yeah. X-COM: Terror From the Deep did end kind of badly.
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gornotck wrote:


nemoskull wrote:

wasnt there a game about sea colonization....
dont think it ended too well......


Yeah. X-COM: Terror From the Deep did end kind of badly.


I like the ultraman series though
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fredreload wrote:


Cardamom_Ginger wrote:


sinoakayumi wrote:

America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management.


You kidding? You need to go on a road trip across the USA, especially when our drop in births and empty, government-owned land are taken into account. Overpopulation isn't going to be an issue anytime soon, discounting buffoons who only want to squeeze like sardines into already-crowded cities. Culture alone certainly doesn't cause the overpopulation you desire. Yeah, you clearly despise Europe and the USA, but karma or whatever your fueling your assessment on simply doesn't work that way.


Alright, you got me. I've always been comparing the east and the west. Why is it that my salary is only 1400 dollars a month in Taiwan when I can be earning 50k a year in US being a US citizen. It's not like you guys are treating me bad, but hey people here needs a living too. Now I can't really be complaining if we are exporting sub quality products and bad working attitude. Which is not the case for many here, yes I slack off at work . The salary remained like this for the last 20 years and we complain that the government, especially the president, did not give us a raise and kept the same salary for 20 years, if not less. But my thought is that the salary is kept this way not because of the government, but by the world.



First of all nobody in the USA makes 50k a year just being a citizen. That shit would create an unprecedented immigration problem and would be equivalent to communism.

Second of all you may make 25% of what an American makes over here in a year but your costs of living are more than likely 90% cheaper than what we have to pay over here.

Thirdly there are people in the USA making as much as you in a month (for one job) and they have to pay 5-9 times as much for rent/utilities/basic living expenses and thus are forced to work 2-3 jobs just to stay afloat.

Learn about how life really is here instead of making baseless assumptions.

The world is not holding you or your salary down, that is what employers can afford to pay the people in your country and still turn a profit. You are just pointing the finger outwards, when the true issue lies within.

Don't like it? Move to another country!

Improve yourself and your skills (READ: STUDY/GO TO SCHOOL) so you have something to offer a country like the United States in order to acquire citizenship legally. No country will want you if you have nothing of value to offer them.

Or do it illegally and get stuck working menial manual labor jobs that nobody wants to do for minimum pay.


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Posted 7/9/17

sinoakayumi wrote:


Rujikin wrote:

Only Asia and Africa have a population issue. Americas and Europe are fine.


America and Europe can suffer from overpopulation problems by their culture and inefficient resource management. Their individualistic culture mean that their population live in small nuclear family, which take a lot of space, instead of extended family. The middle class American family did worsen this problem by forcing their babies to sleep in isolated room so their children learn to be self-centered, rebelious, and uncooperative. Their need for material posession as a form of social status create an unsustainable lifestyle. The Westerners sustain their lifestyle with puppet governments in the third world who rob from third world citizen to serve Western business.


We are not suffering from over population or lack of resources. If we stopped accepting immigrants we would be even better off in that regard.
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