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Personally, I think that people like throwing around the terms "narcissism" or "narcissist" a bit too readily these days. On the political scale, liberals are often found calling conservatives narcissists because conservative values focus away from assisting other people ("my money should stay my money, I don't want to help anyone else out") - this is a bit of a misuse of the term/phrase as it only extends to their financial views. Some people who debate back and forth on forums tend to believe someone is being narcissistic because the individual fails to see a compromise or to make an entire thread about their lives and will take offense if someone tries to speak about it indirectly or otherwise.

There's no denying that we live in a "me"-focused world. Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat... the list of social media networks that encourage a focus on "me, myself, and I" are ever-growing. It puts a spotlight onto someone's life and they believe that it gives them the right to judge people based on the response they get in these networks. But is this the only reason? Hell no.

The Baby Boomers were/are the original "Me Generation". They existed without the need for social media to feed their ego. Instead, they were pitched some "American Dream" model as children and they went after it. This ended up with Baby Boomers focusing on greed, materialism, and professional ambition (at any cost). Then you move onto Generation X - the "globalist generation". These are the guys who wanted to right the wrongs of the Baby Boomer's greed. Except, this was mostly due to the fact that they simply didn't do as well as their Boomer parents on a financial scale. GenX was the generation who had to deal with politicians lying and their parents starting to struggle in older age because America began to weaken as a global power.

Now, we're at the age of the Millenials. The reason why Millenials are so hard headed and refuse to budge from their ideals/views is that many Millennials have a sense of righteousness. They want to undo all the wrong in the world today. This is why you see 18-28-year-olds voting for Trump (they've seen their GenX parents lied to, manipulated, and laid off by the government and its grasp on the market) and "Social Justice Warriors" demanding justice for all - at any cost (even if they don't fully grasp the topic). They're one and the same, the young Conservative and the young SJW. They just happen to have an opposite view of what's "wrong" in the world, but they hold their own opinions higher than anyone who disagrees with them. Millenials are known to exist in an opinion vacuum - fueled by like-minded Millenials or Baby Boomers who felt that GenX demoralized the world with thinking globally.

At the end of the day, I don't really see anybody more or less narcissistic than people of yesteryears. The "Me Generation" of the Baby Boomers just bled into another generation, just to an extreme level because it's the Millennials' view of "righting the wrong".

Of course, not everybody fits into this generalization. But even your results of being "self-centered and lacking empathy" fits my explanation. You may not be a narcissist, but this generation is focused around the idea that their view is the correct one and someone else's view is automatically incorrect. On top of that, they're less likely to see another person's opinion as valid if it doesn't agree with them or make compromises to meet in the middle on "hot topics".


I have to admit ninjitsuko. All of your posts are enjoyable to read. I guess you don't get where you are in life if you are one of those people.

as for donation-- it's a voluntary thing. There are people who would donate and let the world know that they donated!!! some worst cases used someone's money for it!.


What are your test scores btw?

the way i looked at the traits listed in the first test

self-centered-- because i only care for myself and family--and then closed friends, relatives--

lack of empathy- again, I'm not going out and donate everything i have to a homeless man or gave away a large portion of my paycheck to someone who is less fortunate- i'm pretty selfish just so you know.
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I have to admit ninjitsuko. All of your posts are enjoyable to read. I guess you don't get where you are in life if you are one of those people.


Thanks! But with that said, I don't see anything directly wrong with being a "hardcore" liberal or conservative - in the modern day, it's only to be expected that people have their own views as to what will fix what they see is the "core problem" of society. In earlier generations, this country had a unified sense of direction (for the most part). We're in a fractured period where opinions are diversed to the point that the perception of what's "wrong" with this country (or world) are far apart.


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as for donation-- it's a voluntary thing. There are people who would donate and let the world know that they donated!!! some worst cases used someone's money for it!.


See, this is something that bothers me (personally). I'll be the first to admit that I donate money and time to charities. While I do admit it's a bit of a "humble brag" (and a bit of an asshole thing to say, to a degree), there are stages. I know of a guy that will give homeless people sandwiches only if they pose for a selfie with him. Then, he'll post it on Facebook as if he were the holiest, most kindest individual in the world. He ended up blocking/deleting me once I had a few... choice words with him. (sorry for the language).


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What are your test scores btw?

the way i looked at the traits listed in the first test

self-centered-- because i only care for myself and family--and then closed friends, relatives--

lack of empathy- again, I'm not going out and donate everything i have to a homeless man or gave away a large portion of my paycheck to someone who is less fortunate- i'm pretty selfish just so you know.




My overall view is that as long as you're not directly harming someone else with your beliefs or actions, then it's not all that bad. Just because you care about your "circle" doesn't mean that you're so selfish that you're damaging the world in some way or another. As for empathy, I think it extends beyond the measure of selfishness that you're applying to it. But even so, you're not directly harming someone just because you're not giving them funds that will somehow impact your own day-to-day existence.

Even if you look at my scores above, you'll see the I ranked higher on authority and exploitativeness. I can rationalize these because I've only really focused on gaining power in order to ensure that it's difficult to get rid of me (professionally speaking) and the exploitativeness is kind of a run-off of that mentality. I won't exploit people to the extent of harming them but it's kind of a trait that goes along with gaining "power". I'd imagine these scores would be similar to what you'd expect of me based on my posts (these came to zero surprise to me).
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Come on. The internet was not a thing 50 years ago. It is very possible that technological advancements have changed the way we function emotionally towards others - and that's just one aspect of being human. The argument that "we've always been like this, so blaming technology is stupid" misses that technology is new. Even if human nature is the same, it has new avenues of expression, and the tendencies that get amplified or diminished will depend on what technology does to us.

Of course, it's possible to go to far in the other direction: we are currently a society obsessed with data-gathering (which is one of the many things caused by the success of technological advancement). But not all data is useful: I'm not sure how useful it is to classify society based on its supposed levels of "narcissism" (meaning some particular class of responses to a survey).
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Thanks! But with that said, I don't see anything directly wrong with being a "hardcore" liberal or conservative - in the modern day, it's only to be expected that people have their own views as to what will fix what they see is the "core problem" of society. In earlier generations, this country had a unified sense of direction (for the most part). We're in a fractured period where opinions are diversed to the point that the perception of what's "wrong" with this country (or world) are far apart.

See, this is something that bothers me (personally). I'll be the first to admit that I donate money and time to charities. While I do admit it's a bit of a "humble brag" (and a bit of an asshole thing to say, to a degree), there are stages. I know of a guy that will give homeless people sandwiches only if they pose for a selfie with him. Then, he'll post it on Facebook as if he were the holiest, most kindest individual in the world. He ended up blocking/deleting me once I had a few... choice words with him. (sorry for the language).

My overall view is that as long as you're not directly harming someone else with your beliefs or actions, then it's not all that bad. Just because you care about your "circle" doesn't mean that you're so selfish that you're damaging the world in some way or another. As for empathy, I think it extends beyond the measure of selfishness that you're applying to it. But even so, you're not directly harming someone just because you're not giving them funds that will somehow impact your own day-to-day existence.

Even if you look at my scores above, you'll see the I ranked higher on authority and exploitativeness. I can rationalize these because I've only really focused on gaining power in order to ensure that it's difficult to get rid of me (professionally speaking) and the exploitativeness is kind of a run-off of that mentality. I won't exploit people to the extent of harming them but it's kind of a trait that goes along with gaining "power". I'd imagine these scores would be similar to what you'd expect of me based on my posts (these came to zero surprise to me).


If we can the good parts of liberals and conservatives and combine them together --- we would have a perfect party, but i don't see it's happening. They will never see eye to eye. If i have to describe it, it's like a young child sitting in middle as he/she watches his/her parents yelling at each other on a daily basis. It's the stage of this country we are in.

taking selfie with homeless people was a thing a few years back. I saw a WWYD video about it

Teens Harrass And Humiliate the Homeless | What Would You Do? | WWYD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt1JfmFb6Xg

They also have a video about bum bashing (when it was a thing). Not just US but Canada and other countries
WWYD Bum Bashing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahW9IuYCKww


It's disturbing but there are those types out there. This is why i carry my Glock 26 with me when i'm heading to places that are poorly lid or too isolated.

They should provide you with a score # as well. Was it 20 and higher ?
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Come on. The internet was not a thing 50 years ago. It is very possible that technological advancements have changed the way we function emotionally towards others - and that's just one aspect of being human. The argument that "we've always been like this, so blaming technology is stupid" misses that technology is new. Even if human nature is the same, it has new avenues of expression, and the tendencies that get amplified or diminished will depend on what technology does to us.

Of course, it's possible to go to far in the other direction: we are currently a society obsessed with data-gathering (which is one of the many things caused by the success of technological advancement). But not all data is useful: I'm not sure how useful it is to classify society based on its supposed levels of "narcissism" (meaning some particular class of responses to a survey).


Possible, yes. I think it's still a little too early to say (definitively) that social network has lead to a rise in narcissism. Though, I think there would be a valid argument that there's been an increase of publically showing signs of narcissism or interpreting statements as such. The Internet bridged the gap of communication. Just 20 years ago, you wouldn't call someone in California if you didn't know them - let alone call someone in Canada, Japan, or Europe. Whereas nowadays, we're having prolonged conversations via forums, messengers, and VoIP calls (Skype, etc) to people all over the world and watching videos from people anywhere in the world. The amount of exposure to this type of mentality may have increased significantly due to the Internet and social media ... but I'd be hard-pressed to say that these symptoms are outside of the norm with the current data we have.

But like you said - sometimes too much data can mean obfuscation depending on how the data is gathered. I mean, just imagine how many posters just here on CR would be accused of narcissism based on their general responses (especially politically-driven ones). That being said, I have some data relevant to this (from the project I mentioned the other day) - but there's not enough data to correlate this behavior as being directly influenced by the medium or just that we're more exposed to this than other generations had been.
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If we can the good parts of liberals and conservatives and combine them together --- we would have a perfect party, but i don't see it's happening. They will never see eye to eye. If i have to describe it, it's like a young child sitting in middle as he/she watches his/her parents yelling at each other on a daily basis. It's the stage of this country we are in.


I'm not too sure if a combination of the two would be ideal. But that's a different topic/thread altogether. It does feel like two sides are bickering back and forth without really creating viable solutions to problems that are impacting everyone (including, but not limited to those who aren't on either side of the firing squad).


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taking selfie with homeless people was a thing a few years back. I saw a WWYD video about it

It's disturbing but there are those types out there. This is why i carry my Glock 26 with me when i'm heading to places that are poorly lid or too isolated.


It just infuriates me that someone would treat another human being like this. Just because someone is homeless doesn't mean that they're any less of a human than you.


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They should provide you with a score # as well. Was it 20 and higher ?


I got a 6.

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Not in Le Comte De Monte Cristol, which century is that?


I don't know, but the main character was wrongly imprisoned and I think that's the perfect example of narcissism right there, he only cared about getting his revenge.


I'd be pretty narcissistic myself if I am wrongly imprisoned , wait for how many years?


I believe 20...

And I believe it was the 1800's
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What if it was always like this and we never knew about it because we never had a microscope over everyone?
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Total was 3.

Authority was 2 and self sufficiency was 1.

Kinda surprised it was so low.

I'll be the first to admit that I generally live in my own little bubble, but generally I think the low score comes from an aversion to conflict and a severe avoidance of other people.

I know I can lead others and people have a lot of faith in my judgement and are ready to jump and believe just about anything I say, but honestly, leading others is a HUGE responsibility that I tend to take seriously (and with a fair amount of drinking to deal with the stress), and fuck if I know why people believe my bullshit.

The difference though is having the skills and desiring them. I purposefully seek out the shadows and hide in them... And then put out a giant "KEEP OUT" sign.
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Human interaction changes everything. The more I separate myself from it the more I begin to think for myself.

It won't change how I treat people off the record, off the forums. A discussion thread of any kind is fair game, once you step into it.... that's it. If you want to chat over whos day was more repetitive with some coffee and tea .... nothing's stopping you. I can literally sit through any conversation and somehow hold a conversation.

Social media is here for our uncensored opinion/ clarity. Sure we might seem like narcissists, but that's only because people see our words as either weapons, or Truth.

Talking online has to be the truth no? You can hear it in peoples words. You can't prevent someone from holding back their emotions, it would go against our nature. I am simply trying to find the ones who wish to answer with truth when they feel the need to finally speak it.

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The quiz is highly faulty. The answer choices and questions are far too polarized and simplistic to be reasonably accurate. I scored a bloody ONE, and in Authority.

Anyway; no, I don't blame media, as there is no direct causal link between it and personality disorders.
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So what does this mean lol.

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I scored a 6.

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