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Post Reply Japanese PM tells the United Nations to shove it, will not take in any ‘refugees’
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Posted 7/9/17 , edited 7/10/17
I think Abe is correct in his way of thinking. He is the prime minister of Japan and should look out for the best interests of the Japanese.



UNITED NATIONS – Japan’s prime minister said Tuesday that his nation needs to attend to its own demographic challenges posed by falling birth rates and an aging population before opening its doors to refugees.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe announced at the U.N. General Assembly that Japan is ramping up assistance in response to the exodus of refugees to Europe from the Middle East and Africa.

He said Japan will provide $1.5 billion in emergency aid for refugees and for stabilization of communities facing upheaval. But speaking to reporters later Tuesday he poured cold water on the idea of Japan opening its doors to those fleeing.

“I would say that before accepting immigrants or refugees we need to have more activities by women, by elderly people and we must raise (the) birth rate.

“I would say that before accepting immigrants or refugees we need to have more activities by women, by elderly people and we must raise (the) birth rate. There are many things that we should do before accepting immigrants”.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2017/05/08/japanese-pm-tells-the-united-nations-to-shove-it-will-not-take-in-any-muslim-refugees.html
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Where would they put them, anyway? Out in the rice paddies? In the rural areas? In the jobless cities? On the uninhabitable islands?
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Where would they put them, anyway? Out in the rice paddies? In the rural areas? In the jobless cities? On the uninhabitable islands?


Well you see, in an overpopulated area, what people need is land and housing. So if you provide land, you could make crops, you could breed cows, and you have shelter. Check out Nagasarete Airatou, it's a good anime
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Aha! JewsNews is it? Where they editorialize headlines to fit a narrow agenda?

That's the credible alternative to CNN, I see

The plot thickens...
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The response isn't that big of a deal either considering Japan has always had closed borders.
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Japan has a low birthrate and no one to care for the elderly. If only there were people who would be willing to have babies and work in nursing homes People from outside the islands who escaped war and are looking for a better life. They might not fit perfectly in but they work hard and get the job done with a little assistance. INB4 you say that Japan needs ethnic Japanese babies.
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I do think myself that Japan as a nation is completely incapable of taking and caring for refugees. It is one of its many faults. However I think the declining birth rate in Japan is something they will not solve without outside assistance. I think Japan requires more immigrants to sustain itself. However Japan would need to greatly change for a sizeable number of immigrants to want to live there, let alone actually live there. While I know there are people who are against multiculturalism I believe that Japan needs at least some influx of another culture to stop stagnation. Even a large influx of immigrants from one other country could really help, preferably one quite different from Japan, so probably not another Asian country but who knows, perhaps it will get North Korean immigrants one of these decades.
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I'm inclined to agree that they should prioritize their own domestic issues as opposed to international issues.

Where should we start? Everyone leaving the rural areas to go to the city? No one making babies? People literally working themselves to death? Kids that put american try-hards to shame in school? The fact that they're the... fourth(?) biggest economy in the world but yet its stagnant?

There isn't an easy solution to many of these problems. I guess they could start with their labor laws but that only helps so much.
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unless they have room they shouldn't take in refugees and even then it's at their choice.
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I went to Japan a few months ago, the food is overpriced. Yes it's a bit stagnant, but that is because they have not deployed a computer network. Japan has always been a more conservative country. In Taiwan, Fed Ex, they are everywhere, what in the world are they shipping??? I dunno. The circulation is high and it is vibrant. They are lacking a vibe because they are constrained by their own morality. Immortality is for the losers, guys dressing up as girls are bad, anime is not the popular culture. Try not to force their opinions though


P.S Not the same vibe I see in American schools, experience is good but youngster needs to fall before they can take flight. They are turning into a tourism place
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I do think myself that Japan as a nation is completely incapable of taking and caring for refugees. It is one of its many faults. However I think the declining birth rate in Japan is something they will not solve without outside assistance. I think Japan requires more immigrants to sustain itself. However Japan would need to greatly change for a sizeable number of immigrants to want to live there, let alone actually live there. While I know there are people who are against multiculturalism I believe that Japan needs at least some influx of another culture to stop stagnation. Even a large influx of immigrants from one other country could really help, preferably one quite different from Japan, so probably not another Asian country but who knows, perhaps it will get North Korean immigrants one of these decades.


They are doing their part though, considering they're contributing monetarily to resettling the refugees.

That is the direction the Prime Minister has opted to take, and what is stated in the article - at least once you get past the sensationalist headline of 'shoving it' (an editorialized term btw that never left the Prime Minister's mouth).

Much ado about nothing.
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dunno. maybe im spoiled with the illegal mexicans in yuma, but they are hardworking people that keep their heads down and pay taxes. (other peoples taxes, lol)
i wonder if theses immgrants just dont have the same get it done attitude.
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dunno. maybe im spoiled with the illegal mexicans in yuma, but they are hardworking people that keep their heads down and pay taxes. (other peoples taxes, lol)
i wonder if theses immgrants just dont have the same get it done attitude.


Japan is a proud country. It is probably not the problem with immigrants but, I mean, most countries have problem accepting immigrants. Some guys come over to take over your job, your neighbor, and does not even speak English? It it not about keeping the head low, but to assert your own worth like the African Americans. I'm pretty sure African Americans are respected in America
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This is an interesting topic. I think Japan shouldn't take in refugees at all no matter the population decline. If the government really needs people to reproduce, they'll find a way. Probably some sort of tax benefit. Saying Japan is rather conservative, I doubt they'll take in refugees for the time being and I, personally, think that's a good idea.
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This is an interesting topic. I think Japan shouldn't take in refugees at all no matter the population decline. If the government really needs people to reproduce, they'll find a way. Probably some sort of tax benefit. Saying Japan is rather conservative, I doubt they'll take in refugees for the time being and I, personally, think that's a good idea.


Just needs a bit of Terraforming , no offense, I think both sides have done a great job
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