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net neutrality day 2017
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17
https://www.recode.net/2017/7/12/15957130/amazon-facebook-google-tech-giants-rallying-defend-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-ajit-pai-vote-day-action

it is time we took a stand. at&t owns crunchyroll and soon will own cnn via their pending merger with time warner. do you want to be blackmailed based on what you might have posted and deleted here the same way cnn used time warner isp data to doxx that poor bastard that had the nerve to post a gif teasing cnn?

i strongly reccomend everyone delete their profile here in protest so at&t cannot sell your user data at the very least and concider suspending your account here for a month to pnish at&t and their crooked bought polititions.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17

bernardwheelerjr wrote:

https://www.recode.net/2017/7/12/15957130/amazon-facebook-google-tech-giants-rallying-defend-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-ajit-pai-vote-day-action
it is time we took a stand. at&t owns crunchyroll and soon will own cnn via their pending merger with time warner. do you want to be blackmailed based on what you might have posted and deleted here the same way cnn used time warner isp data to doxx that poor bastard that had the nerve to post a gif teasing cnn?

i strongly reccomend everyone delete their profile here in protest so at&t cannot sell your user data at the very least and concider suspending your account here for a month to pnish at&t and their crooked bought polititions.


You first.

You might as well stop using the internet at all, much like all these companies who recoup their losses using the internet by charging exorbitant prices for everything assume that everyone uses the highest speeds of internet all the time.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17

gornotck wrote:


bernardwheelerjr wrote:

https://www.recode.net/2017/7/12/15957130/amazon-facebook-google-tech-giants-rallying-defend-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-ajit-pai-vote-day-action
it is time we took a stand. at&t owns crunchyroll and soon will own cnn via their pending merger with time warner. do you want to be blackmailed based on what you might have posted and deleted here the same way cnn used time warner isp data to doxx that poor bastard that had the nerve to post a gif teasing cnn?

i strongly reccomend everyone delete their profile here in protest so at&t cannot sell your user data at the very least and concider suspending your account here for a month to pnish at&t and their crooked bought polititions.


You first.

You might as well stop using the internet at all, much like all these companies who recoup their losses using the internet by charging exorbitant prices for everything assume that everyone uses the highest speeds of internet all the time.


actually i have already suspended my account effective mid month and will be deleteing my account shortly there after. so what are you going to do other than make snarky comments. ive been a paid subscribor since 2013
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bernardwheelerjr wrote:

actually i have already suspended my account effective mid month and will be deleteing my account shortly there after. so what are you going to do other than make snarky comments. ive been a paid subscribor for years.


Quite obviously nothing whatsoever. Congratulations.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17
Call me laaazy bear but I've been waaay to long here to do anythin' with my account (literally longer than majority of current admins).

Same time though I am most of all 'unimpressed'... and it's sad feeling.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17
I'm from the UK so does this affect me in some way?
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bernardwheelerjr wrote:

https://www.recode.net/2017/7/12/15957130/amazon-facebook-google-tech-giants-rallying-defend-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-ajit-pai-vote-day-action

it is time we took a stand. at&t owns crunchyroll and soon will own cnn via their pending merger with time warner. do you want to be blackmailed based on what you might have posted and deleted here the same way cnn used time warner isp data to doxx that poor bastard that had the nerve to post a gif teasing cnn?

i strongly reccomend everyone delete their profile here in protest so at&t cannot sell your user data at the very least and concider suspending your account here for a month to pnish at&t and their crooked bought polititions.


The interesting thing is that my Crunchyroll account is not something you can blackmail me with. Would I like to keep it? Yes. Would I really be losing much if your removed it? Not at the moment. Only the people would make it worth it, since in the end it's just another forum and I can get anime elsewhere. Even here without an account. And by the time the relationships made the account worth something, I'd probably have ways of connecting outside of CR.
Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17

bernardwheelerjr wrote:
it is time we took a stand. at&t owns crunchyroll and soon will own cnn via their pending merger with time warner. do you want to be blackmailed based on what you might have posted and deleted here the same way cnn used time warner isp data to doxx that poor bastard that had the nerve to post a gif teasing cnn?


I think you're making a lot of false equivalencies here. Let me clear things up for you a little bit:

1. Yes, AT&T and The Chernin Group owns Ellation - which Crunchyroll is a subsidiary of.
2. No, your posts would be used to dox you regardless of who owns the site - In the example you cited, CNN "doxxed" the guy by going through his posting history on Reddit. Reddit is owned/operated by "Not A. Bug Inc" which is a subsidiary of CondeNet Inc (which owns tech sites like "Wired", "Ars Technica", and "Backchannel" - as well as other magazines/publications).
3. Doxxing is something that can be done without ownership of a site - Even now, all three of my employers have done background checks on me. I've given them this username and common sites that I go to (this was part of the hiring process). HR regularly scans my posts to make sure that I don't mention my company name or my real name (which can easily be linked to the company I work for). The company I work for has zero financial ties to Crunchyroll, Ellation, The Churnin Group, or AT&T - they choose to look at my posts and regularly ask if I'm posting on more sites (they also have my Reddit account and two other usernames).

Essentially, I'm saying that your claim that "We must let ourselves be heard that we do not support the merger between AT&T and Time Warner to ensure that they do not dox us since they may one day own CNN!" is a bit of a far stretch and incorrect. It doesn't take a mastermind to dox someone - just takes Google and the ability to search for usernames, names, and so forth. Everyone has breadcrumbs online, even those who aren't online at all. It just takes little knowledge and skill as to how to manipulate/utilize search engines to their full capacity.


bernardwheelerjr wrote:
i strongly reccomend everyone delete their profile here in protest so at&t cannot sell your user data at the very least and concider suspending your account here for a month to pnish at&t and their crooked bought polititions.


This is much like going to the grocery store and having a tantrum because they don't have the frozen Ezekiel bread that you want (true story, I've experienced this as an employee). At the end of it all, the customer says something like "Fine! I just won't bring my business here anymore!". That's nice and all, but it won't really mean much at the end of the day. The store brings in tens of thousands a day, your $600 a month isn't really going to impact them.

This is the same as "protesting through boycott" for most things. Companies won't see much of an impact if just a handful of people drop their subscription or stop shopping at their stores. Case and point: Target. After the bathroom (NC's HB2 bill) situation, many conservatives stopped shopping there because they disagreed with Target's stance that anyone's allowed to use their bathrooms. Profits dropped for a few months, but they've stabilized after people moved onto the next "cause of the week".

There are more productive means of protesting Net Neutrality. The merger between AT&T and Time Warner would be a bit of a clusterfuck; alas, it's the FCC who's removed the whole stipulation around Net Neutrality - neither AT&T or Time Warning had their hands in this in a direct sense (they may have influenced or lobbied for it... that's an indirect method of manipulating the situation). Terminating/Suspending your CR premium (or premium plus) account isn't really going to matter in the long-term and it definitely isn't going to make some type of statement.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17
Why in the world would you give your employer so much personal info?
Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17

Bobuliss wrote:

Why in the world would you give your employer so much personal info?


It's either that or not have a job. I haven't had an interview in the last 5 years that hasn't asked for either social media accounts (if they're private, you must give them direct access [user/pass] or add the "HR Account" as a friend) or details surrounding your posting habits online. Only a handful of them has the option of opting out during the interview process. Once you get an offer, you're given a nice packet informing you that in order to accept the offer you must supply the information that you opted out of giving during the interview process.

So it's the lay of the land. I'm used to it and it doesn't bother me. It's not like it hinders me from posting my honest opinions online or anything.

The difficulty comes from the moment that I announce who I work for or my real name. That's when it becomes a "now I have to watch what I say on this particular site or under this specific username" situation. It's mostly because clients/customers are quick to assume that whatever an upper management/executive level employee posts online is the holy word of the company - even in their personal life. Just look at executives who have voiced anti-same-sex marriage opinions online and how customers took that as scripture to determine what the overall company's "political views" are.

So, I get it.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17
Wow, that's crazy. I would never in a million years give that much access to an employer. And yes, I have a job. If I had to, I would just create a dummy account and never use it. Or just tell them you don't use Facebook
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17
https://netneutrality.internetassociation.org/action/

I thought you were about to post that or something. Then you went on a rant about CNN doxxing and deleting CR accounts...Yeah...
Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17

Bobuliss wrote:

Wow, that's crazy. I would never in a million years give that much access to an employer. And yes, I have a job. If I had to, I would just create a dummy account and never use it. Or just tell them you don't use Facebook


If I applied for a regular development role (software engineer, for example), I wouldn't really have to go through giving such access or information. But since I've been focused primarily on upper management (Director) or executive (Chief Technology Officer) roles, these all come with the stipulation that you have to give them this information. It's usually like:

"We're prepared to pay you <x amount> for the next <y amount of years> at a stipend of <z amount per month>. This offer is conditional. You must first complete all of the paperwork in the docket, including the Internet Identity Dossier. This will include social media accounts, internet forums, image boards, Internet blogs, and any domains or websites you currently are the sole owner of." (this is nearly a quote from the docket that I got from my current company)

So yeah, they know the domains I own - they know my Reddit, Crunchyroll, Slashdot, Facebook, Twitter, and StackOverflow usernames/accounts. The first time I was prompted to give this information, I refused to turn it over. The offer was rescinded altogether and was informed that the information is required. As someone in the tech industry, I can easily get away with saying that I don't have a Facebook, Twitter, or normal social media accounts - but I sure as hell can't get away with saying that I don't have usernames online that I post under. It's an instant red flag.
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Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/13/17
Corporate America owns you

Support Trump unquestionably

Don't be different

Money is your God and the only thing that matters
Posted 7/12/17 , edited 7/12/17

MossRantz wrote:

Corporate America owns you

Support Trump unquestionably

Don't be different

Money is your God and the only thing that matters


I think these things aren't mutually exclusive to one another. I don't support Trump, I'm pretty different even for a "drone of Corporate America", and money isn't a god (despite making a fair amount of it). Lol. But it is funny when an HR member comments about one of my posts on CR and we get into a discussion about it.
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