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Posted 7/13/17 , edited 7/13/17

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Looking at Amano's reactions during the club meeting I can see why he would decline given he sees himself as a casual gamer. All we see in the club are hardcore gamers. The club room is filled with things the club bought with money from competitive gaming. They push Amano to play over and over and over despite it being obvious he wasn't into it and then he gets insulted to boot. Yes, here's a group who shares his passion for gaming. But they don't share it in the way he enjoys it. Quite the opposite in fact. Think of it this way. You love anime. Your favourite genre is mecha and you really dislike slice-of-life.Would you join an anime club where all they ever talk about is slice-of-life series and pretty much ignore mecha? Just because people share a passion for a type of activity doesn't mean they'll enjoy it in the same way. I rather have to tip my hat to Amano for having the maturity and self-confidence to not join a club he feels he wouldn't enjoy despite that internal pressure to want to "belong".


Karen's action don't quite fit in with the hardcore gamer club, and it may not be that they didn't care, it is just that they did not notice and Amano didn't voice his desire to not play strongly enough.

It may be obvious to the viewer, it should be obvious to the others that he did not want to play, but I would give them the benefit of the doubt that this club isn't meant to be in so and so way, or that Karen didn't intend it so. Social engagements in Japan are difficult to turn down because of what you describe.

It seems to me the anime just sets it up unrealistically. Wouldn't one normally explain what the club does? Surely, they don't play FPSes all the time, or fighting games, and they certainly won't recruit randoms to participate in matches with significant money, but as a general way to make money.

In fact, only Kase was the one being the asshole. I wouldn't even expect this to not include multiplayer sessions. I mean, club, socializing, video games...it makes sense.

Honestly? If one has a complaint, speak up. No matter how many times I say in Discord "If you have any grievances with me, especially concerning sexual humor or wordplay, please privately message me", no one ever does, and I am fucking sick of that. I cannot read fucking minds, and if one does not make an attempt at what can only be reasonably construed as serious intervention, then do not be mad at me.

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Haha, that MC is savage.



Although his reason for not wanting to join is pretty reasonable. He plays games for fun and that's all he wants, no one can discredit that.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Honestly? If one has a complaint, speak up. No matter how many times I say in Discord "If you have any grievances with me, especially concerning sexual humor or wordplay, please privately message me", no one ever does, and I am fucking sick of that. I cannot read fucking minds, and if one does not make an attempt at what can only be reasonably construed as serious intervention, then do not be mad at me.


I get what you're saying though given this is taking place in Japan speaking up where it could "ruin the atmosphere" or "disrupt the flow" is very, very much discouraged. To take your example a Japanese person would avoid doing anything that might require that sort of "disclaimer". Not being able to "read the air" as the Japanese say and behave in a manner appropriate to the situation results in being a "kuuki yomenai" (someone who is socially "tone deaf") and something Japanese avoid being labeled. While in the West we see Amano's weak efforts to stop playing the FPS as being a sign of a lack of self-confidence for the Japanese it's almost an expectation. If he felt his stopping playing while the other three wanted to continue would "disrupt the flow" of the situation he'd back down as he does.

Which brings up a point that the other players, including Karen, are oblivious to Amano's discomfort until he reaches a point of physical exhaustion. "Reading the air" is a two-way street and designed to prevent direct confrontations which Japanese try to avoid. Being part of a club where the other members can't sense your discomfort at an activity and essentially steamrolling you into it would be a club most Japanese would avoid.

All this in mind I can see this series moving in a direction where Amano comes to appreciate the more competitive aspects of gaming while showing the others how to appreciate gaming on a more casual level. I'm hoping much hilarity will ensue. =P
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Posted 7/13/17
I think Karen realized he was uncomfortable though she seems to have misinterpreted what it was exactly that made him uncomfortable.
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I can see why the MC is put off with the Club.

However on a personal level, I would probably look down on him because of his choice in games.
Plus he is your completely average blank slate Japanese High school kid whose story i saw plenty of times.

So I doubly dislike him.

I like how the Senpai is playing Couter strike. He is a Japanese KennyS.
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Posted 7/13/17

domvina wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:
Honestly? If one has a complaint, speak up. No matter how many times I say in Discord "If you have any grievances with me, especially concerning sexual humor or wordplay, please privately message me", no one ever does, and I am fucking sick of that. I cannot read fucking minds, and if one does not make an attempt at what can only be reasonably construed as serious intervention, then do not be mad at me.


I get what you're saying though given this is taking place in Japan speaking up where it could "ruin the atmosphere" or "disrupt the flow" is very, very much discouraged. To take your example a Japanese person would avoid doing anything that might require that sort of "disclaimer". Not being able to "read the air" as the Japanese say and behave in a manner appropriate to the situation results in being a "kuuki yomenai" (someone who is socially "tone deaf") and something Japanese avoid being labeled. While in the West we see Amano's weak efforts to stop playing the FPS as being a sign of a lack of self-confidence for the Japanese it's almost an expectation. If he felt his stopping playing while the other three wanted to continue would "disrupt the flow" of the situation he'd back down as he does.

Which brings up a point that the other players, including Karen, are oblivious to Amano's discomfort until he reaches a point of physical exhaustion. "Reading the air" is a two-way street and designed to prevent direct confrontations which Japanese try to avoid. Being part of a club where the other members can't sense your discomfort at an activity and essentially steamrolling you into it would be a club most Japanese would avoid.

All this in mind I can see this series moving in a direction where Amano comes to appreciate the more competitive aspects of gaming while showing the others how to appreciate gaming on a more casual level. I'm hoping much hilarity will ensue. =P


I am pretty sure none of them noticed at all. They all thought he was having a good time because they had a good time. He started off both familiar with and excited to play the game, but when he was competitively crushed for two hours while they ignored his explicit hints, I think he realized they were incompatible. Then green-eyed monster cornered him in class and made a scene.
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I didn't get this show at all. It was so misleading and mean-spirited.
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i thought he will join immediately to the club
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Finally a show about gamers where the main character isn't a super secret genius. The first episode did a really good job of subverting that cliche and creating an emotional connection between the audience and the main character. Not only is he a socially awkward nerd who appreciates games for their aesthetics and entertainment value, but he also seems to be rather average at them.

Also, I like that they really made a large distinction between playing games for fun and playing games for competition. I have many friends who completely avoid specific game generas because they are too "competitive" and I can understand that point of view (though I love competitive gaming myself).
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The one thing I'm curious about and I don't believe anyone has mentioned it yet but who is his online friend that is always sending him the online help requests for the game she is playing? Seems like the requests are pretty much random as far as the time of day she sends them. There was only one quick scene of her from the back and it looked like she was sitting in her bed. (Assuming she is a she from hair style but may be wrong) Just wondering if that may be one of the underlying reasons he seems to be unwilling to commit to the gaming club.
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JuJu26 wrote:

I didn't get this show at all. It was so misleading and mean-spirited.


I don't think the intention was to be "mean-spirited" (though Gakuto is rather... blunt). This series strikes me as a situation with characters who all have a passion for an activity though that passion takes different forms coming together and learning to see and respect each others' views.
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The one thing I'm curious about and I don't believe anyone has mentioned it yet but who is his online friend that is always sending him the online help requests for the game she is playing? Seems like the requests are pretty much random as far as the time of day she sends them. There was only one quick scene of her from the back and it looked like she was sitting in her bed. (Assuming she is a she from hair style but may be wrong) Just wondering if that may be one of the underlying reasons he seems to be unwilling to commit to the gaming club.


I am about 99% sure it's going to be the black haired girl in the poster.
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Dirtrider00 wrote:

The one thing I'm curious about and I don't believe anyone has mentioned it yet but who is his online friend that is always sending him the online help requests for the game she is playing? Seems like the requests are pretty much random as far as the time of day she sends them. There was only one quick scene of her from the back and it looked like she was sitting in her bed. (Assuming she is a she from hair style but may be wrong) Just wondering if that may be one of the underlying reasons he seems to be unwilling to commit to the gaming club.


I am about 99% sure it's going to be the black haired girl in the poster.


Im 100% he doesn't know who she is. In the light novel he often refers to her as a he (as in I help this random stranger from time to time). Now whether or not there is some kind of back story behind the characters I don't know because I didn't read more then the first chapter.
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3ZS? PZ3/PZ4? I guess letter Z really suits to that. What could you possibly use? Although i believe Baka and Tests did once had that stuff too.

So anyway, it's a video game-theme? Sounds good. I'm eager to see how's it turn out.
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Gamers! EP 1 Keita Amano and Chapters of the Chosen”

This is off to a good start I like Keita's truth despite veing approaxhed by the best gal in school He goesnt like the competion judsy enjoying games and plus there's MOMO a fellow social gamer
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